Nicotine Supplier

yes all from VM

currently in mix are:

peach
berry
menthol

speaking of, i need to place another order of concentrates.

just added some cotton candy to the order as well

im guessing a hint of that will go well with the menthol

now just for skyblue to get the nic back in stock
 
just added some cotton candy to the order as well

im guessing a hint of that will go well with the menthol

now just for skyblue to get the nic back in stock

Just waiting for our lab dude to let us know when it is ready - nice big 30L batch this time, so it will be a while before we run out :)
 
Just waiting for our lab dude to let us know when it is ready - nice big 30L batch this time, so it will be a while before we run out :)

You really think 30 litres is going to last?:giggle:
 
You really think 30 litres is going to last?:giggle:

haha - well there is enough nic left for him to make another 30L or so, plus nic takes about a week to come in from our supplier, so I seriously doubt we will run out again :)

Just heard from him actually and we will go pick up from the lab on Saturday afternoon, so by early Sat evening the stock should be loaded on the site
 
dammit i was hoping it would be sooner

im running on the last few drops at home :(
 
dammit i was hoping it would be sooner

im running on the last few drops at home :(

yeah, he can courier it to us, but 30kg+ via a courier is seriously going to rip us a new one - so we opted to pick up rather
 
ok ill just have to wait it out
 
hey..is there any limits to the max nic strength that I can import into s.a?..as an individual, before require a posions license or something
 
hey..is there any limits to the max nic strength that I can import into s.a?..as an individual, before require a posions license or something

There is no hard and fast rule that customs follow - sometimes they will let it in and sometimes they won't, sometimes they will only let it in after they have brought in health officials to inspect it (and you pay for that too)

So it is a crap shoot unless you are a pharmacist with an nicotine import permit from the dept of health
 
Why do you want to import though? - at last count there is 4 local suppliers of nicotine and I believe most of them will work out cheaper than importing
 
hey..is there any limits to the max nic strength that I can import into s.a?..as an individual, before require a posions license or something
It is actually illegal without paperwork from the Dept. of Health, which I will not even try. In practice, as @Derick says.
 
Why do you want to import though? - at last count there is 4 local suppliers of nicotine and I believe most of them will work out cheaper than importing
imagine a world where I want to set up my own vape shop in S.A.
I'm currently paying around $60/litre for 70mg delivered. I'd like to keep that relationship intact, but you guys would know the law best so thats why I ask
 
Why do you want to import though? - at last count there is 4 local suppliers of nicotine and I believe most of them will work out cheaper than importing

I found that to be incorrect, however, to get it legally signed off by a respectable pharmacist in SA you need to get your nicotine locally sourced and pre-mixed in a lab
 
imagine a world where I want to set up my own vape shop in S.A.
I'm currently paying around $60/litre for 70mg delivered. I'd like to keep that relationship intact, but you guys would know the law best so thats why I ask

woah, that sounds like a great deal.
 
woah, that sounds like a great deal.
Yep, if it is legally imported, there is a 45% import duty on nicotine - so not such a great deal anymore - if they mark it customs friendly - so not so legal anymore, then perhaps you can get away with not paying the fee
 
Yep, if it is legally imported, there is a 45% import duty on nicotine - so not such a great deal anymore - if they mark it customs friendly - so not so legal anymore, then perhaps you can get away with not paying the fee
thank you Derick, for the useful reply. So S.A,. customs duty is 45%.
Nobody is talking about breaking the law, I hope, I believe I asked the question for the exact purposes of complying with the law and working out the costs to see if it is worthwhile. I currently DIY a lot, and should I decide to move back to S.A. I need to consider the possibility of having this current nic supplier cut off, either due to costs, shipment restrictions etc. I previously owned a vape shop in the uk so the possibility of doing it again is always on my mind too.
 
thank you Derek, for the useful reply. So S.A,. customs duty is 45%.
Nobody is talking about breaking the law, I hope, I believe I asked the question for the exact purposes of complying with the law and working out the costs to see if it is worthwhile. I currently DIY a lot, and should I decide to move back to S.A. I need to consider the possibility of having this current nic supplier cut off, either due to costs, shipment restrictions etc. I previously owned a vape shop in the uk so the possibility of doing it again is always on my mind too.
Ah ok, now I understand :)
Best bet if you want to start a vape shop in SA is to get yourself a pharmacist with a nicotine import permit from the dept of health - once you have that, then you can import any concentration from anywhere
there is also a local supplier of pure nicotine, but their prices are almost 10 times the price of importing it, so I don't believe any of the local vape shops are looking at that.

SA customs will allow personal imports of e-liquid - up to 3 months supply, but that is also a hit and miss scenario - seems to depend on the person that is on duty at the time your package comes through
 
Ah ok, now I understand :)
Best bet if you want to start a vape shop in SA is to get yourself a pharmacist with a nicotine import permit from the dept of health - once you have that, then you can import any concentration from anywhere
there is also a local supplier of pure nicotine, but their prices are almost 10 times the price of importing it, so I don't believe any of the local vape shops are looking at that.

SA customs will allow personal imports of e-liquid - up to 3 months supply, but that is also a hit and miss scenario - seems to depend on the person that is on duty at the time your package comes through
So we need the name of your pharmacisto_O!
 
So we need the name of your pharmacisto_O!
Problem is, with everything being pretty much in flux right now, he is not sure he wants his name published, for fear of it having ramifications for his career later on.
So he is willing to do it for us, as we have some history, but that is about it I'm afraid
 
Problem is, with everything being pretty much in flux right now, he is not sure he wants his name published, for fear of it having ramifications for his career later on.
So he is willing to do it for us, as we have some history, but that is about it I'm afraid
I would have done exactly that were I in his shoes.
 
I would have done exactly that were I in his shoes.
Yep, I perfectly understand it as well (and it took some convincing from us to get him to do it) - maybe one day once the govt has made the regulations clear, perhaps he will be more willing to help other people as well - but by then I would think that lots of pharmacists would be willing to help out
 
I see the FDA has started making their intentions clear on e-cigarettes as well.

From what I gather (and it is a rather looong document) all e-cigarettes devices introduced post 2007 and e-liquids will have to be FDA approved which if, implemented, will exclude all players except for the very largest e.g. tobacco companies and maybe the biggest of the e-cigarette manufacturers. 99.99% of the custom e-liquid and mod manufacturers in the States will be out of business immediately not being able to afford the 'approval' process.

See the FDA doc here:
http://www.ofr.gov/(S(axtmtr20nu1bl20q4r3shcjt))/OFRUpload/OFRData/2014-09491_PI.pdf??

I could be wrong about this but came across this after reading the document
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/th...ke-on-new-fda-regulations-but-not-big-tobacco??

Hope this interpretation is wrong..

This is the ultimate outcome of capitalism where every law is for sale.

America, Land of Fear, Home to the Slave.
 
I see the FDA has started making their intentions clear on e-cigarettes as well.

From what I gather (and it is a rather looong document) all e-cigarettes devices introduced post 2007 and e-liquids will have to be FDA approved which if, implemented, will exclude all players except for the very largest e.g. tobacco companies and maybe the biggest of the e-cigarette manufacturers. 99.99% of the custom e-liquid and mod manufacturers in the States will be out of business immediately not being able to afford the 'approval' process.

See the FDA doc here:
http://www.ofr.gov/(S(axtmtr20nu1bl20q4r3shcjt))/OFRUpload/OFRData/2014-09491_PI.pdf??

I could be wrong about this but came across this after reading the document
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/th...ke-on-new-fda-regulations-but-not-big-tobacco??

Hope this interpretation is wrong..

This is the ultimate outcome of capitalism where every law is for sale.

America, Land of Fear, Home to the Slave.
Yep, there is a thread somewhere were this was posted and discussed - but it is important to remember that these are not regulations, but only proposed regulations - it will go through quite a few rounds of discussion before becoming regulation
 
You've punched it on the nail @JakesSA money is the only thing that buys the "wiskey" in the USA
 
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