Good Afternoon - Hi - Please help - Ripe Banana Concentrate TPA and Banana Concentrate INV - is there a big difference in the Flavour Profiles..??
DIY Bakery Recipes
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If I get nobody to raise their hand in the next ten seconds I will throw down a free recipe. You win! Hooray!
I created this one from something found in a retirement home (no jokes). It was apple flavored crunchy meringues, small flat ones, glued together with a bit of apricot jam. It took me a while and ended up being a complex little number. The lady called them Meringue Cakes.
Main Profile: Crunchy apple meringue. Think something like an almond free macaron and you get up the alley, but this is crunchy all the way without the macaron gooey center.
Undertones: Apricot and brown sugar after notes starting from exhale and lingering. Tart and refreshing IMO.
Flavor notes as I go along
TFA Apple Candy 2.5 percent:
Dual use. A nice hard candy apple bringing that sweetie feeling to the whole juice, being the main apple and sweetener all at once.
CAP Apple Pie V1 1.8 percent:
I wanted the little apple chunks. The meringues had this fake apple taste but with little apple bits that were like cooked apples always are. Apple Pie V1 is the only contender. I was worried the slight coconutty doughyness would make problems but it all worked out great.
TFA Vanilla Cupcake 2 percent:
Grounding. Without something holding down the bottom end so to speak this juice just screams at your taste buds. V Cupcake is nice and heavy without adding too much in the lines of actual taste. A nice texture to give more solidity to the meringue. I tried good old Sugar Cookie V2 also. This takes the juice into a 'Fizzer' chewy sweet territory. If you want it almost sherbet like instead of a meringue, go for the Sugar Cookie V2 at about 2.5 percent.
CAP Butter Cream 2.3 percent
Quite frankly it is the only cream I like. I am funny with creams. I tried desperately to do this mix cream free but alas, mouth feel was too sharp. Marshmallow was not an option here and it is already a meringue. Custard would have wrecked everything. So Butter Cream it is. Feel free to use your own creaming. If you like Bavarian Cream it WILL work. Butter cream just has way superior mouth feel IMO and that was the purpose here, a richer mouth feel so one can vape it as more than the odd overwhelming drip.
TFA Meringue 4 percent
TFA make the perfect crunchy hard meringue and I have been looking for an excuse to use it for a good while. It is nothing like a soft meringe on a pie for that look to FA.
TFA Brown Sugar 1 percent
Really does the job to help apples seem 'baked' as pretty much all baked apple desserts have that cinnamon and brown sugar coating. Cinnamon is OUT. It also helped making the apricot more 'Jammy' and 'Gloopy' which was one little side detail that took great importance for me. At least make the jam a little jammy.
FW Apricot 1.25 percent
And thats the apricot jam. FW always tastes like an alien candy. Delicious style IMO. The Apricot just did the job on the first roll of the dice. It is pretty bold and stands up easily so if you want more apricot tang up it to no more than 2 percent.
ADDITIVES ARE ALWAYS OPTIONAL
But I enjoy this mix best with BOTH Ethyl Maltol and Sucralose. I recommend
EM - 0.5 percent. It is a complex juice. EM helps reduce steep time and slightly fuzzifies the edges between notes it really helps here.
Sucralose - If you are used to DIY and dont often buy you could go without completely most likely. It will have an off-dry to semi sweet mouth feel with zero sucralose.
To get into candy territory or making it taste commercial, about 1 percent TFA Sweet will do.
EDIT: It is a 21 day steep. 7 days gives an indication of what it will be. But it is a normal, slow patient Bakery style steep unfortunately.
I created this one from something found in a retirement home (no jokes). It was apple flavored crunchy meringues, small flat ones, glued together with a bit of apricot jam. It took me a while and ended up being a complex little number. The lady called them Meringue Cakes.
Main Profile: Crunchy apple meringue. Think something like an almond free macaron and you get up the alley, but this is crunchy all the way without the macaron gooey center.
Undertones: Apricot and brown sugar after notes starting from exhale and lingering. Tart and refreshing IMO.
Flavor notes as I go along
TFA Apple Candy 2.5 percent:
Dual use. A nice hard candy apple bringing that sweetie feeling to the whole juice, being the main apple and sweetener all at once.
CAP Apple Pie V1 1.8 percent:
I wanted the little apple chunks. The meringues had this fake apple taste but with little apple bits that were like cooked apples always are. Apple Pie V1 is the only contender. I was worried the slight coconutty doughyness would make problems but it all worked out great.
TFA Vanilla Cupcake 2 percent:
Grounding. Without something holding down the bottom end so to speak this juice just screams at your taste buds. V Cupcake is nice and heavy without adding too much in the lines of actual taste. A nice texture to give more solidity to the meringue. I tried good old Sugar Cookie V2 also. This takes the juice into a 'Fizzer' chewy sweet territory. If you want it almost sherbet like instead of a meringue, go for the Sugar Cookie V2 at about 2.5 percent.
CAP Butter Cream 2.3 percent
Quite frankly it is the only cream I like. I am funny with creams. I tried desperately to do this mix cream free but alas, mouth feel was too sharp. Marshmallow was not an option here and it is already a meringue. Custard would have wrecked everything. So Butter Cream it is. Feel free to use your own creaming. If you like Bavarian Cream it WILL work. Butter cream just has way superior mouth feel IMO and that was the purpose here, a richer mouth feel so one can vape it as more than the odd overwhelming drip.
TFA Meringue 4 percent
TFA make the perfect crunchy hard meringue and I have been looking for an excuse to use it for a good while. It is nothing like a soft meringe on a pie for that look to FA.
TFA Brown Sugar 1 percent
Really does the job to help apples seem 'baked' as pretty much all baked apple desserts have that cinnamon and brown sugar coating. Cinnamon is OUT. It also helped making the apricot more 'Jammy' and 'Gloopy' which was one little side detail that took great importance for me. At least make the jam a little jammy.
FW Apricot 1.25 percent
And thats the apricot jam. FW always tastes like an alien candy. Delicious style IMO. The Apricot just did the job on the first roll of the dice. It is pretty bold and stands up easily so if you want more apricot tang up it to no more than 2 percent.
ADDITIVES ARE ALWAYS OPTIONAL
But I enjoy this mix best with BOTH Ethyl Maltol and Sucralose. I recommend
EM - 0.5 percent. It is a complex juice. EM helps reduce steep time and slightly fuzzifies the edges between notes it really helps here.
Sucralose - If you are used to DIY and dont often buy you could go without completely most likely. It will have an off-dry to semi sweet mouth feel with zero sucralose.
To get into candy territory or making it taste commercial, about 1 percent TFA Sweet will do.
EDIT: It is a 21 day steep. 7 days gives an indication of what it will be. But it is a normal, slow patient Bakery style steep unfortunately.
As is so typical, I'm missing a few ingredients
But thanks for the recipe and the detailed notes.
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Hi guys,
New to the whole mixing of things.
Can anyone tell me if its better to mix larger or small quantities once you have found your flavour?
Cheers
New to the whole mixing of things.
Can anyone tell me if its better to mix larger or small quantities once you have found your flavour?
Cheers
Impossible to say Sir. As a generalization, fruity recipes are better fresh, bakeries and especially tobaccos are better very well aged. It is not a rule of thumb and if you have created the mix it is one of those aspects to explore and find out about. Also, you have steep time where once again fruits are quick but the rest take longer.
And if course you may bore of it when it is around the whole time. How I manage it personally is:
Fruits - weekly 30 to 60ml mix.
Bakery - 300ml per month 4 weeks ahead of scheduled use
Ice Creams and Dairy - 50ml every 2nd week or so also ahead of schedule by 2 weeks this time
Tobaccos - Buy when the fancy strikes.because I am terrible at making tobaccos.
It also depends on how much you vape and what your vaping style is. I have four different setups and rotate juices a lot, I have a dozen on my desk at any one time. And I only vape around 6ml per day. So 30ml of a juice is easily enough for me, it lasts for weeks. If you blow through 30ml a day and only vape one or two juices daily, larger batches would be in order.
Thank you very much.
Just reading some of the other post and its crazy to see how in depth one can go.
Lots to learn.
Just reading some of the other post and its crazy to see how in depth one can go.
Lots to learn.
In addition to the other responses above. Another option is to make pre-blends of the concentrates in your juice. Then you mix as and when required.
@SMIST, it is indeed a rabbit hole. But the nice part is that you can go as deep or as shallow as you like. You can buy 200 different concentrates, vape nothing but DIY and try every recipe you find. And then spend most of your free time trying to make your own recipes. Or you could just stick with other people's hit recipes. Or you could vape 90% commercial juices but decide that you wanted, say, Rhodonite in your rotation. Then you'd only need to buy the concentrates used in Rhodonite and just mix that to complement your commercial juices. There is scope for everyone to find their happy place.
Double standard. And it is not sarcasm like what you displayed indeed no. It is pure cheekiness. Somebody has to stand for the SPIRIT of DIY might as well be me so here I am.Ooh look, sarcasm! Yay
If it pisses you off then check your cholesterol before reading my posts. Most likely to give you a heart attack.
My cholesterol is fine mate, as is my IQ, my principles, my sense of humor, and I know my place in the world. I know not to act like a little snot-nosed brat on a forum that I barely contribute too, and when I do, it is merely to piss people off. Frankly mate, I don't even give a **** if I get banned from the forum for this. There are just too many piss ants like you here lately, all suffering from god complexes.
@Andre, sorry for the derail. I'm sure some mod will delete this anyway, just hope it is after shit-for-brains @Mustrum Ridcully has read it.
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@Viper_SA ....... I saw it but decided to ignore because all I see when I read comments like that is ................
Tends to keep the fighting spirit in check.
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A customer wanted a cinnabon type juice but I never made one before. Had a look at what is used in a real recipe, took a look at my flavours and made a recipe on the spot. I am not a fan of bakeries but he liked it so much that he ordered 250ml on the spot.
Sharing it because maybe someone else is also into the taste.
Name : Cinnister (this is the correct spelling)
Profile : Cinnamon bakey with sweet vanilla undertone
Sharing it because maybe someone else is also into the taste.
Name : Cinnister (this is the correct spelling)
Profile : Cinnamon bakey with sweet vanilla undertone
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Lol ..... I cannot think that it would make a big enough difference from the overall taste. Just Do It!
Well let me point out that it was not me polluting a DIY thread with endless jibes and judgement lol. I have no further replies for you upstanding netizens. Me and the rest of the grown ups will just carry on sharing recipes and arguing about steeping in the appropriate threads. Been ON TOPIC every time myself. Go read your forums rules about personal attacks also. There are rules around here. Really there are. I am not the one breaking them.
Listen bud if there isn't anyone not acting like an adult it is you. There is a simple acid test on a forum, Ask you yourself if you would say to someone's face what you are writing in the forum. If so great go right ahead, just don't forget that the little names you see on the side bar are actual people on the other side on that copper wire.
I personally wouldn't like to have a beer with someone as passive aggressive as you, and yes I would say that directly to someone's face.
I'm out.
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Cap super sweet at 0.5 is equivalent to about 1.5% TFA sweetener
TFA cinnamon Danish at 4% probably = 1.5-2% CAP CDS
good luck
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