DIY Tobacco Recipes

rogue zombie · 6/11/16

Andre said:
Lime Party by @Mike of Mike's Mega Mixes has permanent residence in my GEM tank. Love me some Lime, but when I saw this Cuban Heel tobacco recipe with lime, I was somewhat skeptical. A quick Google, however, revealed that this secret has been known for a long time by the Mayan and other cultures and resonated with the Snus and Hookah lovers.

For me FA Virginia is difficult to work with, but it combines perfectly with the FA Cuban Supreme to give a lightly toasted tobacco cigar taste. The tobaccos sweeten the lime, but still unmistakably lime. It really is reminiscent of Lime Party, but a soft Tobacco Lime Party.

From experience with other recipes I know that only FA Lime Tahiti Distilled will work here. No other Lime will give the same awesome effect.

My mix cured for more than a month and I do think this one requires a proper steep.

The percentages in brackets are if you want to do a pre-blend of concentrates.

Cuban Heel
FA Virginia 1.5 % (43 %)
FA Cuban Supreme 1.0 % (28.5 %)
FA Lime Tahiti Distilled 1.0 % (28.5 %)

Total flavour: 3.5 %

This is one of my new favourites.

Lime - perfect pairing to a mild yellow/brown tobacco.

Light, refreshing... a good summer/spring tobacco.

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GregF · 6/11/16

@rogue zombie did you use your INW Lime or the original FA?

rogue zombie · 6/11/16

GregF said:
@rogue zombie did you use your INW Lime or the original FA?

Both...

The FA one is better.

I made with INW Limetka first (3 week steep), and I added 1 drop per 10mls of FA Cola to sweeten the Lime without changing it.

I prefer the original, but the INW Lime still works.

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GregF · 6/11/16

OK so where did you get your FA Lime Tahiti Distilled.
Tried the normal JHB guys and can only find it at VV CPT.
@rogue zombie @Andre

Andre · 6/11/16

GregF said:
OK so where did you get your FA Lime Tahiti Distilled.
Tried the normal JHB guys and can only find it at VV CPT.
@rogue zombie @Andre

Yip, mine came from VV.

Andre · 10/11/16

DAWN SPIRIT

Like Cuban Heel (lime tobacco) this one comes from the FlavourArt UK site here.

This a a lightly mentholated tobacco. The spearmint is there, but it is not distracting - it is not toothpaste! The menthol and spearmint prevents any grassy/dry/hay notes from the Virginia, leaving it a smooth and wet golden straight tobacco flavour.

This is one of those I can vape for extended periods without getting tired of the taste.

A 2 week steep should do it.

Dawn Spirit [Pre-blend percentages]
FA Virginia 4.0 % [80]
FA Spearming 0.5 % [10]
FA Artic Menthol 0.5 % [10]

Total flavour: 5.0 %

Petrus · 10/11/16

@Andre ,thanks, I hope this is going to be the menthol I am after, especially that middle of the night vapes.

Andre said:
DAWN SPIRIT

Like Cuban Heel (lime tobacco) this one comes from the FlavourArt UK site here.

This a a lightly mentholated tobacco. The spearmint is there, but it is not distracting - it is not toothpaste! The menthol and spearmint prevents any grassy/dry/hay notes from the Virginia, leaving it a smooth and wet golden straight tobacco flavour.

This is one of those I can vape for extended periods without getting tired of the taste.

A 2 week steep should do it.

Dawn Spirit [Pre-blend percentages]
FA Virginia 4.0 % [80]
FA Spearming 0.5 % [10]
FA Artic Menthol 0.5 % [10]

Total flavour: 5.0 %

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Petrus · 10/11/16

@Andre, is it FA Spearmint, and where did you manage to find?

Andre · 10/11/16

Petrus said:
@Andre, is it FA Spearmint, and where did you manage to find?

Ah, @drew got that for me as part of a bundle of other "lesser" FA concentrates when he replenished his normal FA stock.

I think TFA Spearmint will work as well at the same percentage.

Andre · 11/11/16

GregF said:
I know it was on here somewhere but I cant find it now.
@Viper_SA Durandt's Treachery is here as well.

FW Ankara - 3.5%
FA Black Fire - 1%
FA Dark Vapure - 1.5%
INW Dirty Neutral Base - 1%
FW Latakia - 3%
FA MTS Vape Wizard - 1%
INW Sesame - 0.5%

I mixed this up about two weeks ago and tasting now AGAIN!
For me this is quite a complicated tobacco mix, very nice and a little different.
To quote what @Viper_SA said about it

"Durandt's Treachery is a dark, almost musty and bitter pipe tobacco. Has a nice 'warm' note on the exhale, but not every time. A little unpredictable, and keeps me vaping it to find that mote again and again. Might be tbe touch of Sesame coming through. The dirty neutral base is like a good mixer tobacco, for pipe or cigarette IMO. The FW Ankara is very herbal and bitter, much like Storm, but much darker and with less of a menthol/camphor note. More of a woody note. The FW latakia is much darker than the FA version, with more depth and warmth."

I like it and yes it keeps you guessing. I keep thinking that next time I will lower the Sesame but then I taste again and other notes come through.
I wont be changing anything, except the quantity that I made.
If you want something different from the normal tobacco mixes then this is worth a try. That Sesame changes everything.
Thanks @Viper_SA

The dark, the musty and the bitter have attracted me to @Viper_SA's Durandt's Treachery from the start, but I have just never had all the concentrates. Now the courier is one hour away with my FW Latakia from Blck. Shall give it a shot over the weekend, without the Sesame to start with. Report to follow in due course.

Anneries · 11/11/16

The only thing putting me off Tobacco DIY, is the long steep times, I can hardly wait to shake on the energy drink that I do, haha. But I am very tempted to get some of these ingredients and start my path on Tobacco DIY

Andre · 11/11/16

Anneries said:
The only thing putting me off Tobacco DIY, is the long steep times, I can hardly wait to shake on the energy drink that I do, haha. But I am very tempted to get some of these ingredients and start my path on Tobacco DIY

You will not be disappointed. Maybe start off with one or two standalone flavours. See this thread. FA Glory is great if you do not mind a bit of nutty. Heard good things about INW AM4A - just mixed mine. I know @RichJB loves FA 7Leaves - mine shall be tasted this weekend.

RichJB · 11/11/16

Yeah, I'm rocking 7 Leaves big time. I have a bottle of FA Virginia that's been steeping for well over a month now, I'm going to add the Menthol and Spearmint as per your recipe, thanks @Andre. I'll use Vapeowave Spearmint, it's actually quite good. If it masks the grassiness in Virginia, I think I'll like it.

Anneries · 11/11/16

Andre said:
Heard good things about INW AM4A - just mixed mine.

The description sounds great, let us know how it is.

Andre · 13/11/16

When I saw that @RichJB rocks this one as a standalone, I was interested. Further searching revealed it was quite popular as such.

HIC describes it perfectly as "light, dry, bright...with sweet 'high notes' of anise and light smokiness on the exhale." I like it that I can really taste tobacco leaves on the inhale. Reminds me of a toasted plain cigarette - like Lucky Strike. You cannot miss the slightly sweet anise/licorice notes on the exhale. The anise is very light and not distracting, however.

The juice is clear and will certainly not be a coil gunker.

Perfect starter tobacco for the DIYer imho.

A 3 weeks steep is recommended. Many have noted perfumy/floral notes without steeping, but I have come across one person that prefers it freshly mixed.

FA 7 Leaves

FA 7 Leaves Ultimate 2.5 %

See @RichJB notes on this one in the post directly below.

RichJB · 13/11/16

I don't always get the same flavour sensations as HIC, although I would happily concede that is because his nose/palate are far more attuned than mine. But in this case, I think HIC's Notes nail it for me:

Expect a light, dry, bright, cigarette-like blend with sweet “high notes” of anise and light smokiness on exhale.

I taste test with both my Recoil and Velocity drippers because they give me different representations. The Recoil boosts the base or "essence" or "guts" of a juice, the Velocity emphasises the high notes. In audio terms, I think of the Recoil as a woofer and the Velocity as a tweeter. With 7 Leaves, the exhale on my Recoil reflects the "light smokiness" that HIC notes, the Velocity plays up the bright sweetness of the anise.

What I like about 7 Leaves is that is doesn't taste ashy or dirty at all. Like most quitters, the thought of tobacco was repulsive to me initially. Then I tried TFA's RY4 Double standalone and, after adding some Marshmallow to just knock it down a notch and play up the caramel rather than the tobacco, I rather enjoyed it. At that point, I knew I was over the hump and ready to start delving into tobaccos again. I followed HIC's advice that 7 Leaves is a great 'transition' flavour and a good first tobacco for those who have quit cigarettes. It has fulfilled my expectations in that regard. It's clean-tasting, clean-burning and the liquid is near as darnit clear.

My next step would probably be to again follow HIC's advice and bump up the strength by adding a bit of Cuban Supreme. Or I might just add plain Burley to play up the tobacco and mute the anise slightly.

That said, my experience with tobacco is extremely limited. Other than RY4 and 7 Leaves, my only experience has been a few exploratory puffs of the yellow hay-box grassiness that is FA Virginia. I'll be trying other FA standalones like Glory and Soho shortly. And, who knows, I might find them to be way better than 7 Leaves. But for now, I am really satisfied vaping this. It is one of the very few flavours that works standalone for me.

Silver · 13/11/16

RichJB said:
The Recoil boosts the base or "essence" or "guts" of a juice, the Velocity emphasises the high notes. In audio terms, I think of the Recoil as a woofer and the Velocity as a tweeter.

Loved this @RichJB

My DogeV2 is my woofer and my Lemo1 my tweeter. Hehe

RichJB · 13/11/16

Glad to hear that someone else has woofers and tweeters, @Silver. When I first tried the same juice back-to-back in the Recoil and Velocity, it was a wtf? moment. I had different coil and wick configurations in them and attributed it to that. But then I re-coiled with near-identical dual Ni80 and the same generic Japanese cotton in both and the same character persisted in each. I rather like it as it gives me a good spread of what a juice or flavour offers.

Silver · 13/11/16

RichJB said:
Glad to hear that someone else has woofers and tweeters, @Silver. When I first tried the same juice back-to-back in the Recoil and Velocity, it was a wtf? moment. I had different coil and wick configurations in them and attributed it to that. But then I re-coiled with near-identical dual Ni80 and the same generic Japanese cotton in both and the same character persisted in each. I rather like it as it gives me a good spread of what a juice or flavour offers.

Lol, now all we need to do is to figure out how to combine the woofer and tweeter for a full range

GregF · 13/11/16

Dolby 5:1 vaping

kyle_redbull · 15/11/16

Just received my TFA RY4D And INW Gold Ducat from @method1 thanks again bud it's much appreciated. Any suggestions on what I can make as I delve into my first tobacco mixes? Bump

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kyle_redbull · 17/11/16

kyle_redbull said:
Just received my TFA RY4D And INW Gold Ducat from @method1 thanks again bud it's much appreciated. Any suggestions on what I can make as I delve into my first tobacco mixes? Bump

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GregF · 17/11/16

I meant to post this with your first request @kyle_redbull
If you have FA Perique Black then @rogue zombie Da Vinci is very nice.

INW Gold Ducat 2%
FA Perique Black 1%
FA Fresh Cream 1%
FA Vienna Cream 1%
FA Vanilla (any) 1%

GregF · 17/11/16

also that gold ducat is quite nice on its own

kyle_redbull · 17/11/16

GregF said:
I meant to post this with your first request @kyle_redbull
If you have FA Perique Black then @rogue zombie Da Vinci is very nice.

INW Gold Ducat 2%
FA Perique Black 1%
FA Fresh Cream 1%
FA Vienna Cream 1%
FA Vanilla (any) 1%

Thanks for the response bud

I don't Peique Black. Need to get more concentrates in all honesty.

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