DIY Tobacco Recipes

GregF · 8/11/17

@PuffingCrow I agree with @Andre on the bitter wizard but you could also try using less VG.
VG is quite sweet on its own. I dont know what ratio PG/VG you are using but try 60VG/40PG. You will also get more throat hit with the higher PG.

Jakes247GP · 9/11/17

Hey Guys

Hope all is well...
Any ideas on a recipe that includes; Tobacco, rum, cream, caramel?

Andre · 9/11/17

Jakes247GP said:
Hey Guys

Hope all is well...
Any ideas on a recipe that includes; Tobacco, rum, cream, caramel?

Close enough? - https://www.ecigssa.co.za/posts/544013

Jakes247GP · 9/11/17

Andre said:
Close enough? - https://www.ecigssa.co.za/posts/544013

Hey @Andre just a bit too much flavours. Was looking for tobacco with desert flavour... with maximum 5 flavours...but those flavours I posted must be in... I know you guys are excellent at coming out with ideas..

Jakes247GP · 9/11/17

@Andre how will you mix these:
1.FW Tobacco Rum
2.TFA Sweet Cream
3.TFA Caramel
4.Optional

Andre · 9/11/17

Jakes247GP said:
@Andre how will you mix these:
1.FW Tobacco Rum
2.TFA Sweet Cream
3.TFA Caramel
4.Optional

I have not the foggiest - try and try again is the motto! Have never used any of those concentrates, sorry.
Another options is to try this very popular recipe and just add some Rum.

Jakes247GP · 9/11/17

Andre said:
I have not the foggiest - try and try again is the motto! Have never used any of those concentrates, sorry.
Another options is to try this very popular recipe and just add some Rum.

Thanks @Andre but I’m already vaping on the rocketpuppy...it’s brilliant...

Think I will try the Smoking Snake in the mean time...

GregF · 17/11/17

I have been mixing FLV Kentucky blend stand alone at 4% and find it quite enjoyable. I came across this recipe by the well know mixer Fear which just adds that little bit extra for me and makes FLV Kentucky Blend shine.

Arctic Queen
2% FLV Cured Tobacco
2.5% FLV Kentucky Blend
1.25% INW Natural Mint
0.5 % WS-23

I did not add the mint or the WS-23, just mixed up the Cured and Kentucky Blend. If you read his notes on the recipe he was going for a Marlboro menthol type taste so if you are looking for a menthol tobacco this should be right up your ally.

GregF · 17/11/17

I have not had FA Cuban Supreme for a while and forgot how good it actually is. Mixed this up today, also by Fear.
He says it is good SnV and really really good after 3 weeks. I mixed today, tasted today and already thinking about mixing up a preblend.
Gives me a chance to use up some excess Catalan Cream and Torrone.

The Creamy Cuban
3% FA Catalan Cream
2% FA Cuban Supreme
0.5% FA Hazelnut
1% FA Torrone

Have a look at his notes to play around with the sweetness and dryness to cater for your own needs.
I am not a big fan of nutty tobacco and for me this is not too nutty, or sweet for that matter, so dont let the Hazelnut and Torrone put you off.

GregF · 24/11/17

Andre said:
The Kretek Cure

Why "cure"? Wikipedia enlightens us: "The origin of kretek cigarettes can be traced to the late 19th century. The creator of kretek was Haji Jamhari, a native of Kudus in Indonesia's Central Java region. Suffering from chest pains, Jamhari attempted to reduce the pain by rubbing clove oil on his chest. Jamhari sought a means of achieving a deeper relief and smoked his hand-rolled cigarettes after adding dried clove buds and rubber tree sap. According to the story, his asthma and chest pains vanished immediately. Word of Jamhari's product spread rapidly among his neighbors, and the product soon became available in pharmacies as rokok cengkeh; clove cigarettes. First marketed as a medicinal product, kreteks became widely popular.".

The word "kretek" itself is an onomatopoetic* term for the crackling sound of burning cloves.
(*A word that phonetically imitates, resembles or suggests the sound that it describes. Now krrrr "kretek" as you pronounce it to get the effect!)

Wow, FLV Clove is awesome! ConcreteRiver is so right when he describes it as "the rich cinnamon of the clove world". FA Clove is thin and watery in comparison.

Found the recipe here. And loving it! The creator says: "FLV Native Tobacco to me tastes along the lines of a higher end cigarette tobacco, maybe like a Nat Sherman or something. I think they were probably going for an American Spirit type of tobacco*, and I think they did a really good job with this one. The FLV Clove is just asking to be paired with a tobacco for a Kretek style vape. It is bold yet not overwhelming, rich without being dry or harsh, and has nuance and balance. If you like clove at all you need to get this one. A fairly simple and straightforward recipe, but if you're looking for a good clove tobacco vape this will probably be up your alley.".
(*Additive free, organic tobacco)

The Kretek Cure
FLV Native Tobacco 1.5 %
FLV Clove 0.25 %

Total flavour: 1.75 % (What a bargain!)

FINALLY got the ingredients for this.
This is so different,
sweet....no on second thoughts its not sweet,
spicy....no again thinking about it its not spicy,
ashy....no hang on its not so ashy
It's all of those things and they are not in your face either.
I like it and will go into my rotation (which is getting rather large but it's all for a good cause), thanks for the find @Andre

GregF · 26/11/17

New addition for your tobaccos
I have been trying something the last couple of days. It works, it's great, it's simple, so time to share.

Add some Fig Newton to your mix. It puts a lovely spin on all of the tobacco I have tried it with. A little biscuit/cake on the exhale.
50-50 is nice but for me it detracted from the tobacco too much. I found my happy place about 25% Fig Newton 75% Tobacco.
I have not let these steep together, I just add to the squonk bottle.

I must add that the Fig Newton I have is made with CLY Brown Sugar @1% and CLY Fig Jam @2% but I cant see why it would taste much different using the original especially if it is just for a back note.

[edit] I have refined this as it was more the biscuit that I was after. I now use 0.5% Brown Sugar and 2% Biscuit.

Silver · 3/12/17

Dubz said:
A little something i call "Pablo". I hope you guys enjoy it...

FW Hazelnut 2%
TFA Double Chocolate Clear 3%
TFA Cubano Type 1.5%
TFA RY4 Double 3%
TFA Bavarian Cream 2.5%
TFA Caramel 1.5%
PG-30 VG-70
2 to 3 week steep.

Ooh, this sounds amazing @Dubz

Dubz · 3/12/17

Silver said:
Ooh, this sounds amazing @Dubz

Thanks @Silver I rather enjoy it

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Silver · 3/12/17

I need to start DIY

I am so excited yet scared of the DIY rabbit hole. I fear i wont come out. Lol

Andre · 3/12/17

Dubz said:
A little something i call "Pablo". I hope you guys enjoy it...

2% FW Hazelnut
3% TFA Double Chocolate Clear
1.5% TFA Cubano Type
3% TFA RY4 Double
2.5% TFA Bavarian Cream
1.5% TFA Caramel
PG-30 VG-70
2 to 3 week steep.

Thank you @Dubz. Please edit your post to include a short description - for the Index.

Dubz · 3/12/17

Andre said:
Thank you @Dubz. Please edit your post to include a short description - for the Index.

Done...

Lingogrey · 4/12/17

I need to mix up some juice for a friend who vapes with a Twisp Clearo 2 and she only likes the Twisp Tobacco Liquid (I only vaped it right at the start of my vaping journey and I don't know if it's still the same, but I remember it as being relatively close to a cigarette). I'll mix at 15 mg nic - 50 VG / 50 PG, and I'm planning to do HIC's Light American Cig Replacement (reposted by @GregF on this forum - thanks!), although I might up the Burley from 0.5 % to 0.75 % (for me the sweet cigar taste and touch of vanilla from the Cuban Supreme is slightly too prominent for a cigarette 'replacement', even with the Oakwood and the Black Fire). My question relates as to how much (percentage wise) you guys think I should up the flavors, considering that it will be vaped in a Twisp Clearo 2? I see that the recipe was created mid 2014 (when vapes were not nearly as powerful as they are now), but I didn't find the juice overpowering in a much more 'powerful' setup than a Clearo 2, and I am worried that it might taste like nothing? Do you think that 20 % up of each (considering that the Burley has already been upped to 0.75 % rather than 0.5 % - and the fact that it will be mixed at 50 % pg rather than my usual 30 %) will cut it? Thus:

FA Cuban Supreme - 3 %
FA Burley - 0.9 %
FA Black Fire - 0. 6 %
FA Oakwood - 0. 6 %

@Andre, @GregF, @Viper_SA ?

Thanks!

GregF · 4/12/17

Lingogrey said:
I need to mix up some juice for a friend who vapes with a Twisp Clearo 2 and she only likes the Twisp Tobacco Liquid (I only vaped it right at the start of my vaping journey and I don't know if it's still the same, but I remember it as being relatively close to a cigarette). I'll mix at 15 mg nic - 50 VG / 50 PG, and I'm planning to do HIC's Light American Cig Replacement (reposted by @GregF on this forum - thanks!), although I might up the Burley from 0.5 % to 0.75 % (for me the sweet cigar taste and touch of vanilla from the Cuban Supreme is slightly too prominent for a cigarette 'replacement', even with the Oakwood and the Black Fire). My question relates as to how much (percentage wise) you guys think I should up the flavors, considering that it will be vaped in a Twisp Clearo 2? I see that the recipe was created mid 2014 (when vapes were not nearly as powerful as they are now), but I didn't find the juice overpowering in a much more 'powerful' setup than a Clearo 2, and I am worried that it might taste like nothing? Do you think that 20 % up of each (considering that the Burley has already been upped to 0.75 % rather than 0.5 % - and the fact that it will be mixed at 50 % pg rather than my usual 30 %) will cut it? Thus:

FA Cuban Supreme - 3 %
FA Burley - 0.9 %
FA Black Fire - 0. 6 %
FA Oakwood - 0. 6 %

@Andre, @GregF, @Viper_SA ?

Thanks!

Not much help from my side, I have no experience with Twisp and do not know how it will translate.
I can suggest though is that you make a preblend of the recipe. From there you can up the default percentage used to create your recipe.
eg: the default percentage is 4%. You could add 6% and check, add more if needed.

Lingogrey · 4/12/17

GregF said:
Not much help from my side, I have no experience with Twisp and do not know how it will translate.
I can suggest though is that you make a preblend of the recipe. From there you can up the default percentage used to create your recipe.
eg: the default percentage is 4%. You could add 6% and check, add more if needed.

Thanks @GregF !

I appreciate the response. Problem is that I'll only be seeing her quick and have to mix up the juice before then, so I won't be able to test on the Twisp and then tweak accordingly. Thinking of it now, it is a bit of an unfair question if somebody with good knowledge of this recipe hasn't mixed this up specifically for the Clearo 2 (and even then, we have to keep in mind that the average Twisp Clearo 2 vaper relatively fresh off smokes will quite likely have a different palate to most experienced DIY'ers).

Thanks again!

Andre · 4/12/17

Lingogrey said:
I need to mix up some juice for a friend who vapes with a Twisp Clearo 2 and she only likes the Twisp Tobacco Liquid (I only vaped it right at the start of my vaping journey and I don't know if it's still the same, but I remember it as being relatively close to a cigarette). I'll mix at 15 mg nic - 50 VG / 50 PG, and I'm planning to do HIC's Light American Cig Replacement (reposted by @GregF on this forum - thanks!), although I might up the Burley from 0.5 % to 0.75 % (for me the sweet cigar taste and touch of vanilla from the Cuban Supreme is slightly too prominent for a cigarette 'replacement', even with the Oakwood and the Black Fire). My question relates as to how much (percentage wise) you guys think I should up the flavors, considering that it will be vaped in a Twisp Clearo 2? I see that the recipe was created mid 2014 (when vapes were not nearly as powerful as they are now), but I didn't find the juice overpowering in a much more 'powerful' setup than a Clearo 2, and I am worried that it might taste like nothing? Do you think that 20 % up of each (considering that the Burley has already been upped to 0.75 % rather than 0.5 % - and the fact that it will be mixed at 50 % pg rather than my usual 30 %) will cut it? Thus:

FA Cuban Supreme - 3 %
FA Burley - 0.9 %
FA Black Fire - 0. 6 %
FA Oakwood - 0. 6 %

@Andre, @GregF, @Viper_SA ?

Thanks!

I have never mixed up the HIC version, but have done derivatives in Camel Lights and Camel. See my flavour notes there. As to you question - I have no idea, but my gut feel is you should not up the flavours at all, especially since you will be mixing 50/50 - mine were all done at 40PG/60VG and are strong in flavour.

Lingogrey · 4/12/17

Andre said:
I have never mixed up the HIC version, but have done derivatives in Camel Lights and Camel. See my flavour notes there. As to you question - I have no idea, but my gut feel is you should not up the flavours at all, especially since you will be mixing 50/50 - mine were all done at 40PG/60VG and are strong in flavour.

Thanks very much @Andre! I did see your Camel Lights and Camel and they look great, but I don't have the FA Desert Ship (and I find the INW Desert Ship that I have absolutely horrid) or the Tuscan Reserve for the Camels. My friend didn't like Camels when she was a smoker, so I figure going with the 'normal' American Cig Replacements will be fine (but will get the FA Desert Ship to mix the Camels for myself at some stage). Thanks! I'll maybe just up the Burley to 0.75 % then (I saw that some posters on Vapingunderground did so with success)

Andre · 4/12/17

Lingogrey said:
Thanks very much @Andre! I did see your Camel Lights and Camel and they look great, but I don't have the FA Desert Ship (and I find the INW Desert Ship that I have absolutely horrid) or the Tuscan Reserve for the Camels. My friend didn't like Camels when she was a smoker, so I figure going with the 'normal' American Cig Replacements will be fine (but will get the FA Desert Ship to mix the Camels for myself at some stage). Thanks! I'll maybe just up the Burley to 0.75 % then (I saw that some posters on Vapingunderground did so with success)

Now that you mention it, that would be this one - Marlboro. I like it.

Silver · 6/12/17

Lingogrey said:
I need to mix up some juice for a friend who vapes with a Twisp Clearo 2 and she only likes the Twisp Tobacco Liquid (I only vaped it right at the start of my vaping journey and I don't know if it's still the same, but I remember it as being relatively close to a cigarette). I'll mix at 15 mg nic - 50 VG / 50 PG, and I'm planning to do HIC's Light American Cig Replacement (reposted by @GregF on this forum - thanks!), although I might up the Burley from 0.5 % to 0.75 % (for me the sweet cigar taste and touch of vanilla from the Cuban Supreme is slightly too prominent for a cigarette 'replacement', even with the Oakwood and the Black Fire). My question relates as to how much (percentage wise) you guys think I should up the flavors, considering that it will be vaped in a Twisp Clearo 2? I see that the recipe was created mid 2014 (when vapes were not nearly as powerful as they are now), but I didn't find the juice overpowering in a much more 'powerful' setup than a Clearo 2, and I am worried that it might taste like nothing? Do you think that 20 % up of each (considering that the Burley has already been upped to 0.75 % rather than 0.5 % - and the fact that it will be mixed at 50 % pg rather than my usual 30 %) will cut it? Thus:

FA Cuban Supreme - 3 %
FA Burley - 0.9 %
FA Black Fire - 0. 6 %
FA Oakwood - 0. 6 %

@Andre, @GregF, @Viper_SA ?

Thanks!

Hi @Lingogrey
Cant advise you on the DIY side of things
But just a suggestion - why dont you make your friend two or three mixes and let her try and see

I never liked the Twisp Tobacco #1 much. I found it was always a bit bland. Needed some punch.

When i vaped other tobaccoes (ready made juices) my eyes opened up wide...

Lingogrey · 6/12/17

Silver said:
Hi @Lingogrey
Cant advise you on the DIY side of things
But just a suggestion - why dont you make your friend two or three mixes and let her try and see

I never liked the Twisp Tobacco #1 much. I found it was always a bit bland. Needed some punch.

When i vaped other tobaccoes (ready made juices) my eyes opened up wide...

Thanks @Silver! It makes sense and I will do so

GregF · 9/12/17

I started DIY tobacco with mostly FA then INW came along and they have some really great tobaccos now I have discovered FLV and they have some fantastic tobaccos. HS is on the list and the one I have tried so far is very promising. (I think I need a bigger shovel)
Anyway, here is one with FLV Cured Tobacco. Apparently FLV Cured is everyone's favourite and good to mix with just about anything.
It is a nice all round, slightly woody cigar flavour.
The recipe is here by verve. I used FA Marzipan at 1% and am quite happy with it.
Very light cherry, vaguely nutty cigar.

Cherry Almond Cigar
0.5% FA Almond
3% FLV Cured Tobacco
1% FA Marzipan (original calls for 1.5% INW Marzipan)

Shake and Vape certified.
From what I have seen and read, most FLV tobaccos will fade after a few days but they do come back after about two weeks.

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