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Thought we left the emotions at the door.... Im going to stay on topic here, this is the first time we are hearing the full description of the NCZ and i like it, I’m not fighting the cause I AM FOR IT, you need to realise one thing Daniel, I’m un biased and was under the assumption that this...

Oh no i get that now Rob i really do, i just think allot of people need to understand that

You have to take into account buying power, trust me i was in the import and distribution game with the Chinese for a long time supplying Edcon/truworths/Woolys/Mr Price .....you think 200% mark up is allot then you have allot to learn. Imagine if one vendor has the rights and distribution of...

You see that is were the confusion is, most of the people including those in the NCZ are confused about the cause, they seem to think this is HE vs clones(i thought the same) I got quiet upset to the fact that people are been made to feel inferior because they did not have the HE hand checks...

That does make sense.

Thats awesome.

But Rob how is the NCZ going to fight these non dedicated vape shops if they never join the NCZ and i doubt they will. By no vape vendor selling clones wouldn’t that increase sales at these non vape shops and there clones. Just to ad that this is exactly the type of posts that make a person...

Don’t say i never try...... This been civil thing is hard.

Well call me blissfully unaware aswell, to me the clone market was so small it was insignificant and fully HE. I think the entire forum is against clone juice, this is unsafe and i always had an issue with this. At the end of the day i dont own clones for personal reason but i wont stop...