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How do states make money by banning a product? If money was the goal, they'd follow Pennsylvania's lead and slap a 40% sales tax on all vaping products.

I'm not sure where Vic gets his figures from, heh. Last week he was claiming that India has 42 million vapers. Suffice it to say, I haven't been able to find any source online that shows the same figures he provides.

I think regulators everywhere reason that it's a lot easier to stop an industry that hasn't reached critical mass yet. Cigarettes have been around too long, banning them would result in major economic disruptions. But vaping is still a fledgling industry, it could be nipped in the bud without...

The only way they could tackle DIY is with a nic ban. Every other component is used legally by some other industry.

Well, yes and no. Big tobacco has bet the farm on smokeless tobacco. If PMI has sunk $4 billion into its smokeless products division, you can bet that they don't want the smokeless products banned. But severe restrictions, with regulatory conditions that only huge companies with millions to...

It has already. Menthol cigarettes were banned in SanFran, along with flavoured vapes. RJ Reynolds fought the legislation tooth and nail, spending millions on campaigning, but lost. Their Newport brand is the top selling menthol cig in the US. For the longest time, authorities in the US held...

Exactly. We need research that reflects the risks of open system vaping. The reason cigalikes are used is because big tobacco conducts the research and big tobacco produces cigalikes, not open system hardware. They only research the products they sell. However, this doesn't mean that cigalikes...

Then you are both consuming in excess and the results of medical testing on the effects of brandy on your health will not apply to the bulk of the population. Which would make the validity of such testing questionable if it was used by govt to inform policy on alcohol sales to the public...

Even 100W is way higher than many vapers go. I rarely vape above 35W.

It's worth noting that most of the metals they tested for are also present in cigarette smoke, with the addition of known carcinogens in cadmium and arsenic. For a truly representative test, we would need to see the results of cigarette smoke v vapour for typical daily consumption (number of...

The same number who started smoking when cigarettes only had tobacco flavours? It doesn't have to be one or the other, it can be both. There is no doubt that many/most vapers have no intention to quit nicotine. Doctors will always recommend quitting everything. However, transitioning to a less...

Unfortunately when such articles are "provided by PMI", it merely strengthens the public perception that vaping is just big tobacco's way to keep half the population hooked on nicotine and buying their products. The article makes perfect sense but big tobacco has such a sordid history of lying...

There have been a number of studies into flavours, and research is ongoing. Other than the minor risk of flavours that contain DAAP, there are some other concerns. They have tested airway cell deaths when flavours are passed over them and death counts vary widely by flavour. Cinnamon is not...

I suspect it's an over-reaction to the US situation. New York, for example, invoked emergency powers that don't have to be approved via the usual democratic governance channels. Once they realise it's not the end of the world, I suspect things will calm down. Although by then all the laws will...

It is clumsy and ambiguous wording, the journalist should have phrased it more clearly. "Despite" would work better than "because of" to convey what they mean.

Marijuana is still illegal in many states. The federal govt ordering doctors to do blood tests, which could later be used as evidence that the patient committed a crime, is not going to go down well with American voters.

I suppose it goes towards freedoms and appropriate medical ethics. These people are not on trial and are not accused of any wrongdoing. Forcing them to submit to a test which establishes the veracity of their testimony is probably deemed excessive. The test might also be misleading in terms of...

Earlier in the thread, @Silver informed that some of the victims are saying they weren't vaping THC. I presume that is what sparked the question I responded to - that it surely couldn't be flavours. This from the Guardian: My inclination is to believe that those saying they weren't vaping THC...

Because it's a new development. The risks from smoking are known so it's not shocking when people continue to die from it. Let me illustrate with an analogy. Your next door neighbour switches on his DSTV decoder and it explodes, killing him instantly. You phone DSTV to find out what's up and...

Yes. This problem is only happening in North America (one case we know of in Canada) and is affecting many vapers who only started vaping recently. These two facts together tell us: It's not any of the regular ingredients (nic, PG, VG, flavours) in juice because juice is made the same all...