Howdy all, I recently bought an Avocado 24 bottom airflow and thought I'd ask other owners of this and the regular version to share what builds work for them. I'm new to RTAs so all help is appreciated. I'm after max flavor, min clouds, preferably single coil builds but the thread could be a good resource for all vaping styles.
Running mine with a dual coil 7 wraps, 24g 2 strand twisted Ni80, wrapped on a 3mm bit. Ohms out around 0.4,
Wicked it using organic cotton and the Scottish roll method. 1 long slug threaded through both coils and dips into the juice slots under the posts. I put the side with the 2 ends by the juice flow controller and switch that fully closed. it still allows more than enough flow of juice and not a drop leaked yet. This also allows for easy filling without disturbing the wicking when I use witches hat topped bottles.
Decentish cloud, no spitting and amazing flavour.
Wicked it using organic cotton and the Scottish roll method. 1 long slug threaded through both coils and dips into the juice slots under the posts. I put the side with the 2 ends by the juice flow controller and switch that fully closed. it still allows more than enough flow of juice and not a drop leaked yet. This also allows for easy filling without disturbing the wicking when I use witches hat topped bottles.
Decentish cloud, no spitting and amazing flavour.
Thanks @Atsbitscrisp
No other suggestions/builds? Really thought with such a fairly popular tank more people would share what works for them...
No other suggestions/builds? Really thought with such a fairly popular tank more people would share what works for them...
My Avo got a new coil this evening
Nothing too fancy but I made some minor modifications to my last coil. One extra wrap and changed the positioning.
I also tried to position it more accurately between the two wicking holes. It's a bit higher than the air holes and a bit closer to the centre posts.
Wicked with Cotton Bacon V2. Not dangling down too far just a bit inside. Bowties were trimmed slightly (about a quarter off) at an angle to go better into the holes.
I like single coil because then I can fill up easily by just taking out the ceramic block on the other side. (Thanks @PeterHarris)
Verdict - I am liking this build a lot! Slightly richer flavour and a bit more throat hit.
Have a toned down version of my Blackbird menthol blend. Strangely, although I usually don't like tobacco lung hits, I like it quite a lot in the Avo.
Only Vaping at around 25 watts. Not very long draws. Short lung hits. (It's still quite a strong juice)
Loving my Avo. Such rich and deep flavour.
Wrapped 'the other way around' (to what i normaly do)
Coil a bit higher than the airhole. That black koki mark on the base tells me where the coil is so I know where to line up the airhole when putting the cap back on.
Reasonably close to the centre posts
Nothing too fancy but I made some minor modifications to my last coil. One extra wrap and changed the positioning.
- Single coil
- 26g NI80
- 8 wraps
- 2.5mm ID
- Resistance after wicking is 0,78 ohms
I also tried to position it more accurately between the two wicking holes. It's a bit higher than the air holes and a bit closer to the centre posts.
Wicked with Cotton Bacon V2. Not dangling down too far just a bit inside. Bowties were trimmed slightly (about a quarter off) at an angle to go better into the holes.
I like single coil because then I can fill up easily by just taking out the ceramic block on the other side. (Thanks @PeterHarris)
Verdict - I am liking this build a lot! Slightly richer flavour and a bit more throat hit.
Have a toned down version of my Blackbird menthol blend. Strangely, although I usually don't like tobacco lung hits, I like it quite a lot in the Avo.
Only Vaping at around 25 watts. Not very long draws. Short lung hits. (It's still quite a strong juice)
Loving my Avo. Such rich and deep flavour.
Wrapped 'the other way around' (to what i normaly do)
Coil a bit higher than the airhole. That black koki mark on the base tells me where the coil is so I know where to line up the airhole when putting the cap back on.
Reasonably close to the centre posts
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10/11 wrap SS316L 24G 2.5mm ID coming in at 0.39 Ohm on my Avo 22. Also raised to sit slightly above the airflow slot. Really good flavour from this little monster.
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Using the Cotton Bacon (Vegan version). Its just impossible to wick incorrectly with this stuff and to me at least it has very little cotton flavour. No spitting or gurgles. Als
The juice is a DIY - Strawberry Shortcake Bar. Only 2 days old and should be steeping, but its irresistible. Looks a little like this.
Strawberry Shortcake Bar
Gravatar - by You!, Sep 2. 2015, 20:56
Ingredient
Bavarian Cream (TPA) @ 3%
Biscuit (INAWERA) @ 2%
Cake (Yellow) (FW) @ 1.5%
Cheesecake (Graham Crust) (TPA) @ 1.5%
Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA) @ 6%
Strawberry (TPA) @ 1.5%
Sugar Cookie (CAP) @ 2%
Vanilla Swirl (TPA) @ 2%
The juice is a DIY - Strawberry Shortcake Bar. Only 2 days old and should be steeping, but its irresistible. Looks a little like this.
Strawberry Shortcake Bar
Gravatar - by You!, Sep 2. 2015, 20:56
Ingredient
Bavarian Cream (TPA) @ 3%
Biscuit (INAWERA) @ 2%
Cake (Yellow) (FW) @ 1.5%
Cheesecake (Graham Crust) (TPA) @ 1.5%
Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA) @ 6%
Strawberry (TPA) @ 1.5%
Sugar Cookie (CAP) @ 2%
Vanilla Swirl (TPA) @ 2%
You'll notice, I install my bottom lead in the top post hole and vice versa. I find this helps me to raise the coils after installation when twisting it into position... The same method @BigGuy and @Rob Fisher described in this build tut on the SM25.
Thanks @Polar
Next time I will try this - bottom leg in top hole and top leg in bottom hole
Your coil came out very neatly -
mine looks a bit challenged in my coil photo - lol
I'm also going to try that one next with my OBS ... noticed the bottom of my coils have burnt slightly because they are too close to the deck. Should be interesting to see what happens
Is the Avo 24 hybrid safe?
Was time to pitstop the Avocado 24.
I made my last build in March! With Geekvape NI80. Actually did very well. Not vaping on this exclusively but it's in almost daily rotation.
Made a similar coil with Kidney Puncher NI80. 26g. 8 wraps each coil. 2.4mm ID. 0.35 ohms.
Took my quite a while to get the coils at the same height and even and in line. Lots of toggling and tweaking. Set them slightly higher than the air slot. Bottom of coil about in line with middle of airslots.
Wicked with CB2, filled and lubed. Ready to go!
The juice is my complex mix of several 18mg commercial tobaccoes in a base of 9mg 50/50 PG/VG. With 30 drops of menthol concentrate in 30ml of juice. Tobaccoes in there are Blackbird (tiny amount ) Bobas, Huntsman and Rogue Zombies sweet Virginia. Final juice is about 12mg I would estimate.
My gosh the flavour on this avo is good. So deep and rich. Dense. Short lung hits. At lowish power. 25 watts. It really is glorious. It's strong and bold - with great menthol cooling.
I love my Avo!
I made my last build in March! With Geekvape NI80. Actually did very well. Not vaping on this exclusively but it's in almost daily rotation.
Made a similar coil with Kidney Puncher NI80. 26g. 8 wraps each coil. 2.4mm ID. 0.35 ohms.
Took my quite a while to get the coils at the same height and even and in line. Lots of toggling and tweaking. Set them slightly higher than the air slot. Bottom of coil about in line with middle of airslots.
Wicked with CB2, filled and lubed. Ready to go!
The juice is my complex mix of several 18mg commercial tobaccoes in a base of 9mg 50/50 PG/VG. With 30 drops of menthol concentrate in 30ml of juice. Tobaccoes in there are Blackbird (tiny amount ) Bobas, Huntsman and Rogue Zombies sweet Virginia. Final juice is about 12mg I would estimate.
My gosh the flavour on this avo is good. So deep and rich. Dense. Short lung hits. At lowish power. 25 watts. It really is glorious. It's strong and bold - with great menthol cooling.
I love my Avo!
Avo24 time!
This RDTA produces such lovely flavour. It's been benched for a while because I needed to clean it and couldn't figure out how to take it apart. Watched a video and it's easy. Take out gold 510 pin and then also unscrew the screw inside there. That was the missing link for me. Lol.
Was time to recoil. Decided to go back to a single coil for a change.
@Yiannaki !
I did that 28g triple parallel coil you recommended a while back!!
7 wraps. 2.4mm ID. Came out to 0.45 ohms. Am surprised I managed to get it this neat. But the last wrap on the right is a bit untidy. I actually forgot to do as @BigGuy recommends in his video (put the bottom lead on the top post etc - damn) Anyhow it glows perfectly.
All wicked and lubed. CB2. Ceramic blocker in. Juiced up with @Sir Vape's rogue juice because I am trying to see how it goes in a lung hit.
And?
It's going very nicely. Very nice flavour. And only 25 Watts needed. This is very nice. Am a bit worried about how long the coil is - what if the wicks get burnt in the middle ? Anyhow it's going fine for now. Great first vape session.
Will see how this coil goes and report back if anything untoward develops.
This RDTA produces such lovely flavour. It's been benched for a while because I needed to clean it and couldn't figure out how to take it apart. Watched a video and it's easy. Take out gold 510 pin and then also unscrew the screw inside there. That was the missing link for me. Lol.
Was time to recoil. Decided to go back to a single coil for a change.
@Yiannaki !
I did that 28g triple parallel coil you recommended a while back!!
7 wraps. 2.4mm ID. Came out to 0.45 ohms. Am surprised I managed to get it this neat. But the last wrap on the right is a bit untidy. I actually forgot to do as @BigGuy recommends in his video (put the bottom lead on the top post etc - damn) Anyhow it glows perfectly.
All wicked and lubed. CB2. Ceramic blocker in. Juiced up with @Sir Vape's rogue juice because I am trying to see how it goes in a lung hit.
And?
It's going very nicely. Very nice flavour. And only 25 Watts needed. This is very nice. Am a bit worried about how long the coil is - what if the wicks get burnt in the middle ? Anyhow it's going fine for now. Great first vape session.
Will see how this coil goes and report back if anything untoward develops.
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Wasn't happy with the previous triple parallel single coil build so I reverted to a setup that has served me well.
26g NI80 Dual - 2.4mm ID
Initially measured 0.21 ohms. After wicking and juicing it settled at 0.42 ohms.
This time I remembered to put the bottom leg in the top post like @BigGuy recommended. Much better.
Glowing nicely.
Wicked and juiced up.
Holy cow it's nice. And strong
My Avo24 is back in good service
The juice is a strongish (about 14mg) blend of various commercial tobacco juices. Rough and hardcore.
The Avo gives such deep rich flavour. A tad strong initially. Short toots at 25-30W are just lovely.
Looking forward to more vaping on it. And I like it because it's so easy to fill with a needle nosed bottle.
26g NI80 Dual - 2.4mm ID
Initially measured 0.21 ohms. After wicking and juicing it settled at 0.42 ohms.
This time I remembered to put the bottom leg in the top post like @BigGuy recommended. Much better.
Glowing nicely.
Wicked and juiced up.
Holy cow it's nice. And strong
My Avo24 is back in good service
The juice is a strongish (about 14mg) blend of various commercial tobacco juices. Rough and hardcore.
The Avo gives such deep rich flavour. A tad strong initially. Short toots at 25-30W are just lovely.
Looking forward to more vaping on it. And I like it because it's so easy to fill with a needle nosed bottle.
Thanks @shaun2707
I have not experimented with any other RDTA - so am unsure how the Avo compares to others.
The Avo24 is quite an oldish RDTA and came out yonks ago, so I would not be surprised if more recent RDTAs are better.
But it works well for me so I like it
I personally never found an RDTA that I liked as much as the avo 24. Way too much airflow and juice guzzlers of note out in the market!Thanks @shaun2707
I have not experimented with any other RDTA - so am unsure how the Avo compares to others.
The Avo24 is quite an oldish RDTA and came out yonks ago, so I would not be surprised if more recent RDTAs are better.
But it works well for me so I like it
I also did some DIY coils. It is just my 2nd attempt so nothing fancy here (Alert!) but I will say that this is starting to knockout the Goon1.5 and my Merlin...on certain liquids...(Did I just say that?) I’m having mixed emotions about it ATM but considering how old this atty is I say it does very very well.
My 2cents build. Nothing but heat baby.
Passop on the top cap though, it burns
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My 2cents build. Nothing but heat baby.
Passop on the top cap though, it burns
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Yes Sirrr that’s the way I like it.
Not vicious on your level from what I hear about your style of nic but it definitely hits in the right places for me
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Ah, its a funny thing @Sash - i see lots of folk at vape meets / vape gatherings and even on the forum with some vicious "terminator style" monstrous coils and huge power, with bellows of vapour production. And on the few occasions Ive tried these setups its usually quite mild and smooth throat hit wise.
I havent gotten into exotic coil making yet - so for now, for me - a simple coil will have to suffice. But then i make up for it with stronger nic and often some added menthol. I actually find that kind of vape more pleasurable 90% of the time.
I think I get what you mean @Silver
My reason for them is that I feel it gives me better flavour plus I get the dense clouds. I don’t know if you have tried @smilelykumeenit coils yet but if you haven’t I am sure his coils will make your vape even better. Imagine your juice specs with his coils = a deadly combination. That being said I can’t wait to try one of your setups just cos of what it did to @antonherbst
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I hear you
When i do try more exotic coils with more power I have to lower the nic strength quite a bit
Its a totally different sensation though.
Some vape mainly for flavour, some for the functional throat hit. I am looking for both, but i have to have my throat hit otherwise i dont enjoy it
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