Coughing on Koolada

[Silver]

Hi all

After my unflavoured review I was looking forward to adding some additives into the unflavoured to see what it could do.

In the Reo, I added some VM menthol concentrate - wow what a transformation. Smooth and lovely. Nice menthol freshness. Takes away the peppery taste entirely from the unflavoured. Really like it and have been vaping it all afternoon.

In the Nautilus Mini I added a few drops of Koolada i got from SkyBlue. Immediate coughing. I can feel it cools down the vape but i get an immediate irritation in my throat that makes me cough. Back to the menthol in the Reo. Perfect. Soothint. Then back to the Koolada mix - instant coughing. 3 or 4 solid coughs to recover.

This is somewhat of a revalation for me, since I recall the same sensation and coughing with Craft Vapour's Melon on the Rocks. Not as much, but it was exactly the same sensation. The cough on that juice was less and I really liked that juice and vaped a lot of it. Shorter toots did the trick. This is the same sensation. I know @Mauritz uses some sort of cooling agent in Melon on the Rocks.

I suspect I have an irritation/allergy to Koolada or to something in it. It's not like I cant breathe or anything like that, just an instant coughing - which tells me my system is tryiny to reject it...

Although its not pleasant, I am happy that I have "recreated" that coughing sensation/reaction I got with Melon on the Rocks, which confused me a lot at the time. It was and still is a bit of a pity because I love that Melon on the Rocks juice. I have ordered several times. I think I may have discovered something.

I have just Googled the recommended Koolada ratio. I see many suggestions of 1 drop per ml. Ok, i probably overdid it. I put 4 drops in a 2ml nautilus mini tank. Which is double the recommended level. Anyway, I am convinced this is the same reaction I got to CV Melon on the Rocks and i will try again with only 1 drop in the 2ml Nautilus mini tank.

@Derick, is your Koolada supercharged by any chance or do you know if anyone has expressed an allergy to it before?

Nevertheless, anyone else finding they are coughing on Koolada?

PS- i am not trying to suggest that SkyBlue or CV's products are defective, just that I may be a bit defective Lol.

 

[Rob Fisher]

Nevertheless, anyone else finding they are coughing on Koolada?

I will test the theory tomorrow Hi Ho... never used Koolada yet but it has been on the agenda to test...

 

[Silver]

I will test the theory tomorrow Hi Ho... never used Koolada yet but it has been on the agenda to test...

Thanks @Rob Fisher
In the name of Science, please will you try the same level I did which is 2 drops per ml of juice

Am curious but I suspect this is a problem with me, not the Koolada

 

[Alex]

@Silver, koolada is very potent indeed, for me the longer it stands, the more potent it becomes. The coughing is certainly due to having too much. I once accidentally dripped koolada directly onto the coils. And I am not exaggerating when I say I couldn't breathe for what seemed like eternity.

With regard to adding drops, begin with 1 drop per 2ml, and experiment from there, for me it gets stronger over a few hours.


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[Rob Fisher]

A bit of a technical hitch @Silver! I thought I had two bottles of Koolada... it appears I only have one and it has crystallised in the dripper and the dripper is no longer functional... I have filled the dripper with water in an attempt to dissolve the crystals but it's not dissolving very well... but I did manage to put a drop into the Atlantis and will test once it's mixed...

 

[stevie g]

microwave it.

 

[Derick]

A bit of a technical hitch @Silver! I thought I had two bottles of Koolada... it appears I only have one and it has crystallised in the dripper and the dripper is no longer functional... I have filled the dripper with water in an attempt to dissolve the crystals but it's not dissolving very well... but I did manage to put a drop into the Atlantis and will test once it's mixed...

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just put it in some hot water, the crystals will dissolve

 

[Derick]

Hi all

After my unflavoured review I was looking forward to adding some additives into the unflavoured to see what it could do.

In the Reo, I added some VM menthol concentrate - wow what a transformation. Smooth and lovely. Nice menthol freshness. Takes away the peppery taste entirely from the unflavoured. Really like it and have been vaping it all afternoon.

In the Nautilus Mini I added a few drops of Koolada i got from SkyBlue. Immediate coughing. I can feel it cools down the vape but i get an immediate irritation in my throat that makes me cough. Back to the menthol in the Reo. Perfect. Soothint. Then back to the Koolada mix - instant coughing. 3 or 4 solid coughs to recover.

This is somewhat of a revalation for me, since I recall the same sensation and coughing with Craft Vapour's Melon on the Rocks. Not as much, but it was exactly the same sensation. The cough on that juice was less and I really liked that juice and vaped a lot of it. Shorter toots did the trick. This is the same sensation. I know @Mauritz uses some sort of cooling agent in Melon on the Rocks.

I suspect I have an irritation/allergy to Koolada or to something in it. It's not like I cant breathe or anything like that, just an instant coughing - which tells me my system is tryiny to reject it...

Although its not pleasant, I am happy that I have "recreated" that coughing sensation/reaction I got with Melon on the Rocks, which confused me a lot at the time. It was and still is a bit of a pity because I love that Melon on the Rocks juice. I have ordered several times. I think I may have discovered something.

I have just Googled the recommended Koolada ratio. I see many suggestions of 1 drop per ml. Ok, i probably overdid it. I put 4 drops in a 2ml nautilus mini tank. Which is double the recommended level. Anyway, I am convinced this is the same reaction I got to CV Melon on the Rocks and i will try again with only 1 drop in the 2ml Nautilus mini tank.

@Derick, is your Koolada supercharged by any chance or do you know if anyone has expressed an allergy to it before?

Nevertheless, anyone else finding they are coughing on Koolada?

PS- i am not trying to suggest that SkyBlue or CV's products are defective, just that I may be a bit defective Lol.

First I heard of the koolada causing an issue, but yeah, it is strong, we usually use like 1 or 2% max

 

[johan]

That looks more like frozen

 

[WHeunis]

Thanks @Rob Fisher
In the name of Science, please will you try the same level I did which is 2 drops per ml of juice

Am curious but I suspect this is a problem with me, not the Koolada

2 drops per ml is about 10%... roughly... eish!
That is super high for Koolada.

I suggest starting off at the "default" 5% level. (1 drop per ml).
I have found though that at 5% it just doesnt pop enough for me, personally.

I'm at 6%-8% depending on how much "chill" i want.

 

[Silver]

@Silver, koolada is very potent indeed, for me the longer it stands, the more potent it becomes. The coughing is certainly due to having too much. I once accidentally dripped koolada directly onto the coils. And I am not exaggerating when I say I couldn't breathe for what seemed like eternity.

With regard to adding drops, begin with 1 drop per 2ml, and experiment from there, for me it gets stronger over a few hours.


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Thanks @Alex, i remember you telling us when that happened. Wow. I guess i need to try with a lower concentration. Incidentally, the vape in my supercharged Koolada mix in the Nautilus Mini is cool but not very cool. Will see what happens when I go lower

 

[Silver]

First I heard of the koolada causing an issue, but yeah, it is strong, we usually use like 1 or 2% max

Thanks @Derick, i will try lower and report back in the next few days

 

[Silver]

2 drops per ml is about 10%... roughly... eish!
That is super high for Koolada.

I suggest starting off at the "default" 5% level. (1 drop per ml).
I have found though that at 5% it just doesnt pop enough for me, personally.

I'm at 6%-8% depending on how much "chill" i want.

Thanks @WHeunis, as I said to Alex above, it doesnt seem very cool even at the double dose i have currently. Maybe it has an optimal point, afterwhich adding more is counterproductive to the cooling effect. Or just a coughing effect, lol

Thanks for your percentages - it helps

 

[Silver]

Thanks for all the replies

I may have added too much and will try again. But i still am suspicious of the identical sensation i had with Melon on the Rocks - and at the time Mauritz said that was strange since others didnt have that reaction. Thats why I think I may be sensitive to this.

I will try again with less Koolada and see what happens...

The investigation shall continue!

 

[Silver]

Oh, forgot to emphasise the following in all of this:

I much prefer the Menthol additive to the unflavoured.
Looks like I am in the Fisher camp

 

[hands]

mmm i am also gonna take a look at this. i have always used koolada in my menthol mixes and i get something funny from "menthol" that makes me stop vaping it after about a quarter reo bottle. if this is the cause i will be vaping menthol soon without any problems. i

 

[Silver]

mmm i am also gonna take a look at this. i have always used koolada in my menthol mixes and i get something funny from "menthol" that makes me stop vaping it after about a quarter reo bottle. if this is the cause i will be vaping menthol soon without any problems. i

Thanks @hands - i will be interested to hear what happens when you drop the Koolada
When you say you get something funny, can you describe it?
Is it an irritation or a shortness of breath?

 

[Andre]

KITS - Koolada Irritable Throat Syndrome, as described in a meticulously researched and peer reviewed publication by Dr Silver.

 

[hands]

its a big irritation and that does make me cough a bit. like a dry cough. its what is keeping me from "menthol"

 

[Silver]

its a big irritation and that does make me cough a bit. like a dry cough. its what is keeping me from "menthol"

Spot on - thats what I get @hands
On the contrary, menthol on its own in my Reo is silky smooth and no irritation whatsoever

 

[Silver]

KITS - Koolada Irritable Throat Syndrome, as described in a meticulously researched and peer reviewed publication by Dr Silver.

@Andre, thats classic
When I read your post i initially thought you had found a real piece of research and i was about to open Google to go find it.
You got me there!
Lol

 

[hands]

i am off to go mix some plain menthol now

 

[FireFly]

Sheesh, Never had an issue with Koolada, I drop in 1 Drop per 10ml.. so 3 drops in the standard 30ml bottle and maybe one more for luck. Works a charm for me...

 

[Sharrivz]

To echo the above Koolada is very strong @Silver you need to use very little of it else it will make you cough and splutter @Langman will tell you all about it but yeah I wouldn't worry just use less

 

[Silver]

Sheesh, Never had an issue with Koolada, I drop in 1 Drop per 10ml.. so 3 drops in the standard 30ml bottle and maybe one more for luck. Works a charm for me...

Thanks for the feedback @FireFly
That is a very low concentration you use - about 0.5% (if one assumes the rule of thumb 20 drops=1ml)