Dee I WHY ? with MrDeedz

[MrDeedz]

Hi peeps.
So I will be attempting my 1st proper DIY attempt by Thursday.
I haven't paid much attention at our DIY meetups, (sorry guys) as I didnt find it interesting at the time, Too hooked on awesome Juices available LOL.
My 1st question, When starting to mix whats the best Order. I would assume :
1) Nic
2) Vg
3) Pg
4) Concentrates

 

[MrDeedz]

These are the 3 recipes which tickled my fancies, i will be attempting all 3 at once.

KIWANA U WANA CUSTARD!!! https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/61936
Cinapple Fritter [DIYorDIE: returnity] http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/248629/Cinapple Fritter [DIYorDIE: returnity]
Cinnamon Blueberry Waffle http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/491128/Cinnamon Blueberry Waffle

 

[Lawrence A]

Personally I add the concentrates first, then nic, then PG, and lastly VG.

I wanted to mix Kiwana U Wana Custard too but have 1st rule on the FA Armenia (Apricot)

 

[MrDeedz]

Personally I add the concentrates first, then nic, then PG, and lastly VG.

I wanted to mix Kiwana U Wana Custard too but have 1st rule on the FA Armenia (Apricot)

Thanks for the response. i dont understand this though ? but have 1st rule on the FA Armenia (Apricot)

 

[Vino1718]

Thanks for the response. i dont understand this though ? but have 1st rule on the FA Armenia (Apricot)

meaning he does not have that concentrate.

 

[craigb]

These are the 3 recipes which tickled my fancies, i will be attempting all 3 at once.

KIWANA U WANA CUSTARD!!! https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/61936
Cinapple Fritter [DIYorDIE: returnity] http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/248629/Cinapple Fritter [DIYorDIE: returnity]
Cinnamon Blueberry Waffle http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/491128/Cinnamon Blueberry Waffle

For me, Cinnamon DIY ruined ALL cinnamon for me. Be very conservative and careful with those concentrates. Rather underwhelm than overwhelm with this specific profile.

Hi peeps.
So I will be attempting my 1st proper DIY attempt by Thursday.
I haven't paid much attention at our DIY meetups, (sorry guys) as I didnt find it interesting at the time, Too hooked on awesome Juices available LOL.
My 1st question, When starting to mix whats the best Order. I would assume :
1) Nic
2) Vg
3) Pg
4) Concentrates

Personally I add Concentrates, Nic, PG, VG. My reasoning (YMMV) is the concentrates are the thing most likely to bugger up a mix. So by adding them first, I can throw it out if I make too big an oopsie, which is yet to happen (throwing out that is, been plenty of oopsies)
Then the nic because it's a precision amount.
By now I'm getting a bit impatient, so if I'm a little off with the PG, no biggie.
VG is the majority of the juice, so it takes a while, so I just upend it and stop paying attention for a bit.

It's worked for me up to now and for my preferences, I see no reason to adjust.

Good luck with mixing, wishing you many happy shakes of the bottle.

 

[Lawrence A]

It means I don't have that ingredient in order to mix up the recipe.

Its the 1st rule of DIY - you will always be missing a concentrate for the recipe you want t mix up

 

[HapticSimian]

From what I've read it really doesn't seem to matter much. I speak as an expert with exactly one DIY batch under my belt, but it made sense to my mind to mix all the PG and PG-based goodies - flavourings, nicotine and the PG itself - together first, before glooping the VG in there. What matters more is A) giving your nicotine, if used, a proper shake before opening to avoid concentrated pockets of nic in the suspension, B) giving the finished juice an equally proper shake after combining, and C) leaving your newly mixed juice the hell alone in a cupboard for a week, preferably 2 for the flavours to combine.

 

[RichJB]

I add nic then PG then flavours then VG. But I don't think it matters.

 

[Lawrence A]

I mixed up this cinnamon recipe and am really, really enjoying it.



Edit to add : I replace the 0,5% Supersweet with 0,5% TFA Sweetener

 

[MrDeedz]

meaning he does not have that concentrate.

Yeah I get you guys, Figured that out with 2 of my recipes, I managed to find 95% of my concentrates at flavourworld.co.za
TFA FA goin for 18 to 20 bux and delivery free for orders over 450

 

[MrDeedz]

Information OVERLOAD LOL thanks guys.
Do i need to let the juices breathe (with the cap off) after mixing? When is this done exactly and is this required?

 

[Room Fogger]

Information OVERLOAD LOL thanks guys.
Do i need to let the juices breathe (with the cap off) after mixing? When is this done exactly and is this required?

Letting them breathe is not a must, and was mostly done when flavours were available in an alcohol base if I remember correctly, to enable the alcohol to evaporate. With the new pg based flavours and nic you are exposing it to oxygen that may degrade the flavour and oxidize the nic, lowering its potency. Just give a good shake after mixing and let it be in the back of a dark cupboard and try to keep your hands of it and your cool until it's steeped, and then enjoy

 

[Room Fogger]

Personally I add the concentrates first, then nic, then PG, and lastly VG.

I wanted to mix Kiwana U Wana Custard too but have 1st rule on the FA Armenia (Apricot)

Dam, thanks for that, forgot which recipy I got the Armenia for, can now add it to the to mix list. And while I'm at it, nic,pg,flavour and vg last.

 

[craigb]

Information OVERLOAD LOL thanks guys.
Do i need to let the juices breathe (with the cap off) after mixing? When is this done exactly and is this required?

Nah, no need to breath the juices. Follow the instructions of the recipe for steeping, or if in doubt (or no instructions provided), do a minimum of over night, preferably at least 3 days, even better 1 week to 4 weeks, depending on the specific concentrates used.

The steep details per profile (creams, tobaccos, etc) are reposted quite often, and I never remember them off hand. I usually make bigger batches and start doing small testers after 3 days, keep putting back until the test comes back 'awesome'

 

[MrDeedz]

Coolios. Im planning on leaving them deserts to steep for 3 weeks minimum,

 

[craigb]

Coolios. Im planning on leaving them deserts to steep for 3 weeks minimum,

A final word on what could constitute 'breathing'

I like to take my steeping DIY out every evening, shake 'em up a bit, pop the cap off and take a nice deep breath of the glorious smells and gauge how they are progressing (it's the best compromise I have found to assuage my total impatience)

 

[vicTor]

Coolios. Im planning on leaving them deserts to steep for 3 weeks minimum,

good luck with your first mixes @MrDeedz

I remember how exhilarating my first mix was when i did it, enjoy

regards

 

[MrDeedz]

Thanks guys, It will probably be a hobby. I still love my exquisite juices and very fussy. tend to waste alotta cash on juice n give them away or sometimes sell for next to nothing, @craigb if they decent ill come drop off a sample or 2 for ya lol

 

[HapticSimian]

Hope you're planning to mix by weight. Seeing the miniscule quantities some recipes call for, I can't imagine people getting anywhere close to the intended result unless they're mixing 25 gallon drums at a time.

*edit*

Just to finish the thought, I meant to say that I can't see anyone getting near accurate results using syringes in lieu of a scale. My brain had clearly not had enough coffee (or is that Choffee) when I wrote this post...

 

[craigb]

Hope you're planning to mix by weight. Seeing the miniscule quantities some recipes call for, I can't imagine people getting anywhere close to the intended result unless they're mixing 25 gallon drums at a time.

@MrDeedz is in the East Rand, 25 gallon drums is how we roll!

 

[Dietz]

Finally @MrDeedz joins Us!! Sadly there is no more meets up there (that I know of) where you could get all the info you needed

Im only commenting because I dont see anyone mixing in the order I am mixing in, I dont think it really makes any difference, but in my mind it works.

I mix Flavors, PG then swirl it around a little (Coz Flavors are PG so they will mix in better at this stage) then I add VG and swirl in around a little then I add Nic last.
My reason is I feel the end product is less 'Nicotiney' as everything Else mixed up first then last the nic (its kind of a Ratio Thing).

BUT with that said I am trying to get my Nic to taste smoother, like commercial juices. So My next mix will be from a premixed VG/PG/Nic Mix where I will mix them about two weeks before hand and just add my Flavor when mixing.

 

[MrDeedz]

Finally @MrDeedz joins Us!! Sadly there is no more meets up there (that I know of) where you could get all the info you needed

Im only commenting because I dont see anyone mixing in the order I am mixing in, I dont think it really makes any difference, but in my mind it works.

I mix Flavors, PG then swirl it around a little (Coz Flavors are PG so they will mix in better at this stage) then I add VG and swirl in around a little then I add Nic last.
My reason is I feel the end product is less 'Nicotiney' as everything Else mixed up first then last the nic (its kind of a Ratio Thing).

BUT with that said I am trying to get my Nic to taste smoother, like commercial juices. So My next mix will be from a premixed VG/PG/Nic Mix where I will mix them about two weeks before hand and just add my Flavor when mixing.

I was waiting patiently for your comment aka 2cents LOL, I think Im gonna go with your order as i have thought about adding 1 ingredient at a time and shaking then adding the next.

 

[MrDeedz]

Hi guys. So my concentrates arrived. A year or 2 ago i use to sit around mates mixing juice and I remember the packaging being colorful,
I think mine is bought in bulk buy a supplier and then repacked? and Labeled? is there no harm is using these and how confident can I be that these concentrates are actually the Real McCoy?

 

[craigb]

Hi guys. So my concentrates arrived. A year or 2 ago i use to sit around mates mixing juice and I remember the packaging being colorful,
I think mine is bought in bulk buy a supplier and then repacked? and Labeled? is there no harm is using these and how confident can I be that these concentrates are actually the Real McCoy?

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I think thats how most of them do it, it's just the labels that are different. You are good to go...