DIY liquid help NOOB

Hi. I'm attempting DIY for the first time. Is TFA and TPA the same thing? Please help
As @craigb says, i looked it up and the company goes under two names:
The Flavor Apprentice &
The Perfumers Apprentice
Confusing I know but what I can gather is that they branched out from essential oils to flavours
 
Another noobie question. Where is the best place to store concentrates, VG, PG and Nic?
I store my nic (in PG) in amber glass bottles in the freezer. For use, let it sit outside the freezer for about 5 to 10 minutes. Shake it extremely well before using. Concentrates, PG and VG in a dark, cool cupboard.
 
I just made my 1st diy batch: the hatter clone

70/30 vg/pg
0mg nic
Fa caramel 2%
Fa Catalan cream 4%
Tfa cheesecake graham crust 4%
Fa custard 4%
Fa Vienna cream 2%

I like dessert juices , the richer, creamier, sweeter, the better !!
I know it has to steep a while but OMG it tastes so crap !!! Not sure if I'm getting a spirits like taste or perfume or what . Surely after a 2 day steep (warm water and shake ,every 4 hours) it can't taste this bad ???

Can flavours really change that much, where they are completely not vapable to being amazing if they steep longer ,, at least the clouds smells like caramel ,, but that's about it


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I just mixed that up this afternoon. I'll report back on how it tastes... in about nine weeks. That's my average steep time. I wouldn't taste anything with two creams and a custard before two weeks at least.
 
I just mixed that up this afternoon. I'll report back on how it tastes... in about nine weeks. That's my average steep time. I wouldn't taste anything with two creams and a custard before two weeks at least.

was afraid sum1 would say that.
 
I just made my 1st diy batch: the hatter clone

70/30 vg/pg
0mg nic
Fa caramel 2%
Fa Catalan cream 4%
Tfa cheesecake graham crust 4%
Fa custard 4%
Fa Vienna cream 2%

I like dessert juices , the richer, creamier, sweeter, the better !!
I know it has to steep a while but OMG it tastes so crap !!! Not sure if I'm getting a spirits like taste or perfume or what . Surely after a 2 day steep (warm water and shake ,every 4 hours) it can't taste this bad ???

Can flavours really change that much, where they are completely not vapable to being amazing if they steep longer ,, at least the clouds smells like caramel ,, but that's about it


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Custards and creams like long steeps. 2 weeks minimum, give it some time and it might shine. No need to shake everyday. I shake, no heat treatment and then just let it rest.
 
Hi. I'm attempting DIY for the first time. Is TFA and TPA the same thing? Please help
Also confusing cause The Flavour/Perfumers Apprentice is also "Fa" and FlavorArt is "FA" (I think)
 
Also confusing cause The Flavour/Perfumers Apprentice is also "Fa" and FlavorArt is "FA" (I think)

Lol I nearly thought my recipe could be entirely wrong, but flavourmill has this cool thing where you order exact flavours according to the recipe you choose ... sheeeew
 
Lol I nearly thought my recipe could be entirely wrong, but flavourmill has this cool thing where you order exact flavours according to the recipe you choose ... sheeeew
My favorite DIY supplier. They just rub me the right way ;)

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I just made my 1st diy batch: the hatter clone

70/30 vg/pg
0mg nic
Fa caramel 2%
Fa Catalan cream 4%
Tfa cheesecake graham crust 4%
Fa custard 4%
Fa Vienna cream 2%

I like dessert juices , the richer, creamier, sweeter, the better !!
I know it has to steep a while but OMG it tastes so crap !!! Not sure if I'm getting a spirits like taste or perfume or what . Surely after a 2 day steep (warm water and shake ,every 4 hours) it can't taste this bad ???

Can flavours really change that much, where they are completely not vapable to being amazing if they steep longer ,, at least the clouds smells like caramel ,, but that's about it


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How big a bottle did you make ?

there are some methods to speed up steeping. The best thing is to decant a little bit and speed that up so that you can naturally steep your bigger batch
 
How big a bottle did you make ?

there are some methods to speed up steeping. The best thing is to decant a little bit and speed that up so that you can naturally steep your bigger batch

30ml ,didn't wanna finish all my 1st flavours in one go . Lol
 
I just made my 1st diy batch: the hatter clone

70/30 vg/pg
0mg nic
Fa caramel 2%
Fa Catalan cream 4%
Tfa cheesecake graham crust 4%
Fa custard 4%
Fa Vienna cream 2%

I like dessert juices , the richer, creamier, sweeter, the better !!
I know it has to steep a while but OMG it tastes so crap !!! Not sure if I'm getting a spirits like taste or perfume or what . Surely after a 2 day steep (warm water and shake ,every 4 hours) it can't taste this bad ???

Can flavours really change that much, where they are completely not vapable to being amazing if they steep longer ,, at least the clouds smells like caramel ,, but that's about it


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I made this a while ago and I'm afraid to say I tossed it. FA Catalan Cream at that high of a % just tastes awful to me, it overwhelmed all the other flavors and left this sharp off note. Steeping didn't change it either.

Hopefully your experience will differ.
 
30ml ,didn't wanna finish all my 1st flavours in one go . Lol

Get yourself a coffee frother (dischem has them for R50)

Decant about 15ml into a cup and then "whizz" until it's nice and frothy (about 5min)

Place the cup in a bath of hot water for it to settle (10 min)

Repeat the process 3x
 
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