Etv News On E-cigarettes

[Sharrivz]

One of our customers just came in and told us about the news on Friday and how they were talking about E-cigarettes and them wanting to implement you needing a prescription on E-tv - did anyone else see this and can anyone tell me where I can find it?

 

[Gazzacpt]

One of our customers just came in and told us about the news on Friday and how they were talking about E-cigarettes and them wanting to implement you needing a prescription on E-tv - did anyone else see this and can anyone tell me where I can find it?

From what I have heard and I don't know how true this is. Anything with more than 9,5mg nic concentration, or 0.95% requires a pharmacist to dispense with current legislation. Again no idea how true it is picked it up somewhere.

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[johan]

Didn't see it, neither do I know how you can get hold of it, but this whole control thing remind me of graphic illustration of IGNORANT powers (fear flames ignorance that becomes hate):

 

[Gizmo]

Didn't see it, neither do I know how you can get hold of it, but this whole control thing remind me of graphic illustration of IGNORANT powers (fear flames ignorance that becomes hate):

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Thats ecigs summed up pretty well in the publics eyes.

 

[johan]

I think we must accept the fact that we're hated - they hated us for smoking and now they hate us for vaping! Ok with me - where can I get a T-Shirt: "HATE ME"

 

[devdev]

Sadly I know nothing about this Stroodle.

These did come out though:

http://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/e-cigarettes-linked-to-higher-smoking-odds-1.1658864#.Ux2sfPmSxv8

http://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/e-cigarettes-better-or-just-as-bad-1.1653736

 

[devdev]

Found the actual Enews clip:

http://www.enca.com/media/video/e-cigarette-popularity-grows-rapidly

 

[Rob Fisher]

Found the actual Enews clip:

http://www.enca.com/media/video/e-cigarette-popularity-grows-rapidly

OMG! That raises my blood pressure! Narrow minded, uninformed idiots!

 

[devdev]

Shit - this is actually very bad news for us guys

The quality of journalism in that video was piss poor - The Oncologist had not conducted her research. "We don't know what is in the liquid" Flipping idiot!

You can't go on national television and state your (uninformed) opinion as 'fact' just because you have a doctorate degree.

What's worse is the SA Department of Health seeking to ban the sale of devices and eliquids to pharmacies only.

The honeymoon period of SA vaping may be coming to a close guys. I suggest the retailers find their tin underpants and get ready to be kicked in the nether regions

 

[johan]

I WILL NOT SWEAR! - I WILL NOT SWEAR! - I WILL NOT SWEAR! - I WILL NOT SWEAR!

 

[Gizmo]

Devdev it is a serious worry however, we have seen this same negativity world wide with ecigs already and no banning has taken place as of yet or even regulation. Let's hope for the best

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[ET]

resisting the urge to google that oncologist chick and go shouting at her

 

[Sharrivz]

Shit - this is actually very bad news for us guys

The quality of journalism in that video was piss poor - The Oncologist had not conducted her research. "We don't know what is in the liquid" Flipping idiot!

You can't go on national television and state your (uninformed) opinion as 'fact' just because you have a doctorate degree.

What's worse is the SA Department of Health seeking to ban the sale of devices and eliquids to pharmacies only.

The honeymoon period of SA vaping may be coming to a close guys. I suggest the retailers find their tin underpants and get ready to be kicked in the nether regions

haha Dev its the same shit they tried to pull in america, if they couldn't get it right there they wont get it right here! We will organize marches and petitions the same way they did - its time for vapers to pull together stronger than ever before

 

[ET]

on the other hand did you guys see how many different eliquids that tobacconist had? wonder where in durbs he is

 

[johan]

Stock up your nic like pre-1994

 

[johan]

on the other hand did you guys see how many different eliquids that tobacconist had? wonder where in durbs he is

I think it was @Rob Fisher 's warehouse

 

[Sharrivz]

on the other hand did you guys see how many different eliquids that tobacconist had? wonder where in durbs he is

looks like alot of Liqua

 

[Tornalca]

Found the actual Enews clip:

http://www.enca.com/media/video/e-cigarette-popularity-grows-rapidly

We should stock up. O, not necessary @Rob Fisher has most of the stock in South Africa!

 

[annemarievdh]

That doctor should really do her recherche before embarrassing herself on national television

 

[johan]

That doctor should really do her recherche before embarrassing herself on national television

Maybe she's the same person behind the "Africa Potato Cure" that hit the headlines a couple of years ago.

 

[Silver]

I really don't see its gonna be easily practical for them (the authorities) to ban anything except for the very high dosage nicotine. Flavours, PG, VG and all the hardware is pretty standard stuff.

 

[Sharrivz]

I really don't see its gonna be easily practical for them (the authorities) to ban anything except for the very high dosage nicotine. Flavours, PG, VG and all the hardware is pretty standard stuff.

I agree. Look at the end of the day regulation may be needed which is fair enough, but as far as i am concerned the only regulation needs to be on what the liquids contain (Which is already printed on labels anyway) and possibly the nic strength as you said. Also the sale of these to minors, which they cant even control when it comes to cigarettes and alcohol anyway so we shall see.

 

[devdev]

I have been hatching a plan that could stand us in good stead - however I am not sure if I am ready to put this plan in to action. Also not sure if I can make the time commitment that would be required for this plan.

What worries me here is the bureaucratic red-tape that will be met when we stand as a union against Govt.

In America because vaping is so much more mainstream and because the FDA takes informed decisions we really cannot realistically expect the same considerations here. Rather I would guess that Govt do what they usually do when they don't understand something. Instead of going to the trouble of investigating it and making a decision that is backed up by thought they will ban it outright and then see if there is any backlash.

Once that banning has happened they will be very hesitant to amend or overrule that decision. Equally, as we have seen countless times over the past, when something is banned outright the market doesn't just disappear, it simply goes underground and becomes a black market. Those who sell and those who purchase/consume will be breaking the law. Any backlash we make is going to be a minor irritation for those who made the decision.

Also wouldn't surprise me if some overeager health inspector set out to shut down a few businesses.

The legislation has been interpreted as meaning that even personal vaporisers are classified as controlled devices, as they are nicotine dispensing devices...

I agree with all, this is a right royal clusterfck

 

[devdev]

Another pearl of journalistic ball sweat...

http://www.health-e.org.za/2014/02/27/e-cigarette-friend-foe/

'E-cigarettes may be less dangerous than tobacco, but given that tobacco kills 50 percent of its users, what would not be safer?'

 

[Chop007]

It all comes down to who is controlling it and who is making money from it. Given our governments record of Corruption on a scale that rivals even the most dictatorial states on the planet to date. I would have to reckon that some idiot minister of health/road development is pushing these false reports in order to regulate and thereby profit from the sales. They have to steal their money from somewhere.

If the taxes we pay is not enough to satisfy their immense girth and greed, I doubt they would think twice about screwing over some guys and gals who have found a healthy alternative to smoking. No friends, the writing is on the wall, they will screw us to get our money and then tell us it is for our own health. Like taking a shower and eating Beetroot, just so they did not have to expend the effort and capital on HIV antivirals.

I have seen it time and time again, I am still a positivist but it is evident in this zoo nation where the dumb, greedy Hyena's rule over the wise old turtles, they will do what benefits them. As for that reporting, well, completely shocking, but it too does not surprise me, the government has the press in a nut crunch and the quality of journalism has decreased drastically.

So if they do not cut off our electricity supply they will most definitely find some other way to make money off the whole thing. We can only hope that the absolute morons in government(Understatement), drag their feet as with everything else. Although, when they smell a buck, they are like flies to a turd.

Time to start hiding the sales from the taxman and importing big time on the fly.