Fake Juices?

[Fickie]

Hi All,

I guess it was to be expected that these would exist. My BIL bought some Liqua juices over the weekend and I noticed a few discrepancies.

The 30ml bottles were not heat shrink wrapped. They were made of a softer plastic that was much easier to squeeze. One box was banana flavoured but had apple written on it.

I'm not sure what the original should be? I have harder bottles but can't remember if they were shrink wrapped. Anyone know some tell tale signs that one could look out for on the more common types of imported e-juices? Like Liqua and Hangsen for example?

I wouldn't have totally minded they were a bit cheaper but I want to use reputable juices to avoid some of the muck that sometimes makes its way into cheaper/ fake juices (think mercury 8-0 !).

Regards,
Fickie

 

[drew]

Liqua has a page on their site to help identify the fakes, have a feeling there is another thread somewhere with all the tell tale signs.

https://www.ritchy.com/fake-liqua

 

[Tom]

what annoys me the most is...why would they fake Liqua, as there are anyway much better juices out there???

 

[Riaz]

there are a few things i always check:

start with the box- the print on it must have the correct colour (no dark and or light print)
the bottle MUST be individually wrapped
look at the nozzle- the fake ones are longer and thinner
then look at the colour of the juice itself and also the thickness/ thinness (if such a word exists) of it

oh snap, i just clicked on the link now, and they describe what ive said above much better

 

[Gizmo]

Fake Liquid is rife in flea-markets.

 

[Rob Fisher]

Fake Liquid is rife in flea-markets.

I have read the warning and at the next flea market I'll search for sellers of fake juice and smash them in the face with a brick!

 

[Fickie]

I have read the warning and at the next flea market I'll search for sellers of fake juice and smash them in the face with a brick!

LOL! WTF! I can almost agree...

@Tom, or for that matter make a fake at all? The market is still totally open, just start a brand for yourself! I can only guess that they don't want to put their name on it due to the product being inferior? Possibly containing some of the more hectic junk ingredients. This is a big thing for me. Stinkies also have tons of toxins but if a guy is under the radar with no regulation he could stick anything in there.

 

[CraftyZA]

... and also the thickness/ thinness (if such a word exists)

viscosity

 

[The Golf]

Guys to be honest and I dnt want to step on toes here but the importer calls the cops together with SARS and they go to shut those places or ppl down

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[Tom]

LOL! WTF! I can almost agree...

@Tom, or for that matter make a fake at all? The market is still totally open, just start a brand for yourself! I can only guess that they don't want to put their name on it due to the product being inferior? Possibly containing some of the more hectic junk ingredients. This is a big thing for me. Stinkies also have tons of toxins but if a guy is under the radar with no regulation he could stick anything in there.

yip...must be the reason. some stinking backyard mixing lab for inferior, possibly harmful, juices. Not a good thought

 

[Rob Fisher]

Guys to be honest and I dnt want to step on toes here but the importer calls the cops together with SARS and they go to shut those places or ppl down

Well that can work and saves me going to jail for using a brick!

 

[Gazzacpt]

Guys to be honest and I dnt want to step on toes here but the importer calls the cops together with SARS and they go to shut those places or ppl down

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They have done a sweep of Ottery and Gatesville only some parts of cape town but I know some shops had their Liqua stock confiscated. It was SARS and some folk from Liqua doing the rounds.

 

[shabbar]

@Fickie How's the svd going ?
Are you completely off the analogues

 

[Fickie]

Hi Shabbar,

The vaping is mostly going well. I still have the odd stinky every now and then. I usually take a puff find it does nothing for me and throw it away, like once every 2 or 3 days.
Lately though I feel the same way about the vape. I just wish I could have a strong throat hit every now and then when I'm really craving. Stinkies don't give me that anymore. Makes me feel lost and hapless LOL! But that's just the psyche talking from the shift and resultant separation stress .

I just wish I could let both go. Its not lost on me that there is a strong emotional / psychological attachment here. I have decided that chasing that perfect vape is just a manifestation of this attachment... chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. It just doesn't exist. You get used to whatever it is you're and want more. Hence wanting to buy tons of different gear is just that, not letting go of the ever faithful stinky....

&%$#! not really LOL stuff ..... Anyway that I've waffled

 

[Fickie]

Now where that dude with the quadruple coil on 12v battery gone to...

 

[Andre]

Hi Shabbar,

The vaping is mostly going well. I still have the odd stinky every now and then. I usually take a puff find it does nothing for me and throw it away, like once every 2 or 3 days.
Lately though I feel the same way about the vape. I just wish I could have a strong throat hit every now and then when I'm really craving. Stinkies don't give me that anymore. Makes me feel lost and hapless LOL! But that's just the psyche talking from the shift and resultant separation stress .

I just wish I could let both go. Its not lost on me that there is a strong emotional / psychological attachment here. I have decided that chasing that perfect vape is just a manifestation of this attachment... chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. It just doesn't exist. You get used to whatever it is you're and want more. Hence wanting to buy tons of different gear is just that, not letting go of the ever faithful stinky....

&%$#! not really LOL stuff ..... Anyway that I've waffled

We all have those stages with vaping. Try a really good and strong menthol to help in those periods. The menthol just gives that extra bit of a kick. Can recommend Vapour Mountains's Menthol, either the pre made juice or the menthol concentrate. The latter you can add just a few drops (like in 5 drops per 5 ml) to any of your juices. And yes, you can get a perfect vape for you, but not all the time. Of course, going higher nicotine during those periods might also help.

 

[devdev]

Yes I agree with @Matthee there are good periods of vaping, and bad periods of vaping, and that is with using the same kit and same juice on the same days. Some days are good ones, some days are bad ones.

Remember also your smell and taste buds are going through a re-sensitization process so what you like today you may find unpleasant in 2 weeks. One can get close to the perfect vape, if you want more throat hit then ramp up your PG based juices, add some vodka to your eliq or crank up the voltage on the SVD.

Persevere Fickie, it is well worth it. I'm at the stage now where a bad day vaping beats even a great day of smoking

 

[TylerD]

Hi Shabbar,

The vaping is mostly going well. I still have the odd stinky every now and then. I usually take a puff find it does nothing for me and throw it away, like once every 2 or 3 days.
Lately though I feel the same way about the vape. I just wish I could have a strong throat hit every now and then when I'm really craving. Stinkies don't give me that anymore. Makes me feel lost and hapless LOL! But that's just the psyche talking from the shift and resultant separation stress .

I just wish I could let both go. Its not lost on me that there is a strong emotional / psychological attachment here. I have decided that chasing that perfect vape is just a manifestation of this attachment... chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. It just doesn't exist. You get used to whatever it is you're and want more. Hence wanting to buy tons of different gear is just that, not letting go of the ever faithful stinky....

&%$#! not really LOL stuff ..... Anyway that I've waffled

@Fickie , what miligram are you vaping?

 

[Fickie]

A wittled down 24mg, about 18mg. The 24mg wasn't working either. I plan to get some 34mg any idea who has? and some unflavoured PG and VG. I prefer a more subtle flavour. I think the menthol idea is a good one for me. Will also try an aspire nautilus and see what double coils can do for me.

 

[Andre]

A wittled down 24mg, about 18mg. The 24mg wasn't working either. I plan to get some 34mg any idea who has? and some unflavoured PG and VG. I prefer a more subtle flavour. I think the menthol idea is a good one for me. Will also try an aspire nautilus and see what double coils can do for me.

I think only the Hell High brand from www.eciggies.co.za - 36mg. I vaped that in the beginning, not very good imo, but kept me off the stinkies. Another option, which works well for me is adding 100 mg nic to my favourite juice using a juice calculator. E.g. to make 30 mls of 12 mg Bowden's Mate be 24 mg you just need to add 4.74 ml of 100 mg nic. Little enough not to affect the flavour. Can post you some 100 mg nic if you want. What are your favourite flavours at this time?

 

[Fickie]

I wouldn't call myself a discerning vaper. I don't have a favourite, I just dint like Hangsen Rock Candy and Liqua Traditional Tobacco.
Vape banana e-liquid (18mg) was good but to much flavour, so I whittled this down on the hangsen rock sugar. Liqua Berry mix is ok. But I like it more with banana and menthol. As you can see some wacky tastes. I drink a banana and berry smoothie often so it made sense LOL.

Where can I buy this 100% nicotine. I'd like to see what a few drops do to my wife's coke

 

[Andre]

I shall PM you, we are hijacking this thread.

 

[Peterson]

I can't think it fake juice. why all find it fake ?

 

[Fickie]

Its fake because no one really knows what the hell is in it, cat pee, (nitro) glycerine, formaldehyde. And it is a product made by the manufacturers name they are using ..... fake.

 

[Hein510]

Well that can work and saves me going to jail for using a brick!

I'll pay the bail to see that! Afterwards I'll be standing over the guy laughing and pointing my finger at him!

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