First Rebuildable

[Mike]

Hey folks. So after spending 3 weeks with you all, and buying my first vape, I'm ready to get my second. I've done some reasearch but I trust the forum to help cover my ass.

I want something that I can crank the wattage a bit. And because of that, although the Kayfun/Russian seem convenient, I'm looking for something else.

In short, is there anything better (without destroying the bank) than the latest Fogger? Besides the draining story and a couple of wicking issues that seem like they can be dealt with, it seems too good to be true (Although I suppose it's just a beefed up Kayfun/Russian with a couple of other features).

 

[MarkK]

The kayfun/russians are supposed to be the best RTA's (Rebuildable Tank-ed Atomizer) for flavour and design
My russian has taken leaks all over me though, I got a whole tank on me yesterday thanks to the heat and altitude going up Table Mountain lol but this was user error, supposed to be stored up-side down in this type of situation.
Each device has its pro's and con's.

What have you been vaping on the past 3 weeks? or have you been vapin longer?

Do you have a dripper?
You can only really use them at home, but the flavour is amazing and you can rebuild easily. Fun to play with
And lastly what kind of mod(think Nemesis Mechanical) or personal vaporizer(think SVD/MVP) do you use?

 

[Andre]

Hey folks. So after spending 3 weeks with you all, and buying my first vape, I'm ready to get my second. I've done some reasearch but I trust the forum to help cover my ass.

I want something that I can crank the wattage a bit. And because of that, although the Kayfun/Russian seem convenient, I'm looking for something else.

In short, is there anything better (without destroying the bank) than the latest Fogger? Besides the draining story and a couple of wicking issues that seem like they can be dealt with, it seems too good to be true (Although I suppose it's just a beefed up Kayfun/Russian with a couple of other features).

For flavour in a RTA (rebuildable tank atomizer) not much to beat the Kayfun/Russian. Have looked at the Fogger a couple of time, but am not convinced. The Kayfun/Russian is not made for too low resistance, high watts as it struggles to keep up with the wicking in my understanding. For me the best RTA which can give you the same flavour as a Kayfun/Russian, but also operate at high power is the Aqua. Dual coils, four juice channels. Only takes about 2.5 ml of juice if that is a consideration. And has a bit of a learning curve.

 

[Keyaam]

Buy a kayfun and if you do buy clone try and get the ehpro or tobeco clone.

 

[Mike]

A mini protank 3 / Aerotank Don't have anything else.

Getting an IPV2 from Vapeclub.

I'm fine hey, got the mini for on the go. Was considering a dripper, but this seems like a good compromise between a dripper and a Russian.

Thanks Andre, have you tried an Aqua at all? I'll definitely be considering that too - gonna research it now.

iKeyaam, I think you forgot to read my post.

 

[Andre]

A mini protank 3 / Aerotank Don't have anything else.

Getting an IPV2 from Vapeclub.

I'm fine hey, got the mini for on the go. Was considering a dripper, but this seems like a good compromise between a dripper and a Russian.

Thanks Andre, have you tried an Aqua at all? I'll definitely be considering that too - gonna research it now.

iKeyaam, I think you forgot to read my post.

Oh, I have 2 Aquas on the go all the time - both always coiled to 0.6 ohms. Awesome, quite a few Aqua lovers on the forum.

 

[MarkK]

Yea at the moment you kinda have to decide what is going to work best for you and give you the features you want from the device, for me it was air-flow control on my RTA.

I have not used the aqua so I cannot offer anything there

That IPV is going to look after you for a long time *jealous*

 

[Andre]

Yea at the moment you kinda have to decide what is going to work best for you and give you the features you want from the device, for me it was air-flow control on my RTA.

I have not used the aqua so I cannot offer anything there

That IPV is going to look after you for a long time *jealous*

The Aqua has air flow control and juice flow control btw.

 

[Rob Fisher]

If you are not looking to be too portable but looking for an awesome vape and playing with coils etc without breaking the bank take a look at the iGo-L dripper.

 

[MarkK]

The Aqua has air flow control and juice flow control btw.

Sounds like I need to look at the aqua as well

 

[Mike]

Ahaaaa! See this is the info I was looking for.

You're saying however that the Russians / Kayfuns still top it in terms of flavour? And as a chop that wants to play around with dual coils and getting some dense vapor etc? Got a good amount of comparing to do now.


Yea you're right Mark. I'm not too worried about airflow - I rarely ever want "less". Hahaha that's the plan. Buy once, buy right and be done.

Thanks Rob. I'll check it out. ATM the Fogger and Aqua are in top position for me though.

 

[MarkK]

Kayfuns/russians do not give massive clouds, I'm not convinced that my russian 91% tastes that amazing but its only my second build on it and im still getting the wicking right or trying to.
For the crazy dual coil and quad coild builds etc the easiest thing is a dripper, with a dripper air flow is very important, its even better if its adjustable, I just bought a trident V2 and I am pretty happy with it
BUT its messy, right now im typing with juice on my fingers :/ lol but the flavour is om nom

 

[Mike]

Yea, I'm also curious aout the Infinite Magma too actually. What I meant about airflow is that I want it as a good as possible, rarely less than that If I want less flow I'll pull slower.

 

[Rob Fisher]

Kayfuns/russians do not give massive clouds, I'm not convinced that my russian 91% tastes that amazing but its only my second build on it and im still getting the wicking right or trying to.

Then you are doing something wrong @MarkK! My Russian is absolutely amazing and is close to a perfect vape as can be had! It may not excel with clouds like a dripper does but the flavour and quality of vape is second only to my REO’s.

The only reason I don’t use my Russians that much anymore is because my REO’s are so much easier to clean, fill and re-wick!

 

[MarkK]

lol just did a @Silver with my Trident2

 

[MarkK]

What material are you using to wick @Rob Fisher I have been starting to think its my cotton that is muting the flavours for me

 

[Rob Fisher]

What material are you using to wick @Rob Fisher I have been starting to think its my cotton that is muting the flavours for me

I use Organic Cotton Balls from Dischem. I have tried Silica and hated it... still need to try Ekowool but I'm so happy with the cotton I haven't really bothered with anything else!

 

[MarkK]

I must keep experimenting, I will watch some videos on youtube, I think I may be making my wicks too thick!
do you lay on the deck or do you lay into the channels? if so how far into the channels?

 

[Alex]

The kayfun/russians I have owned all handle sub ohm coils down to .4ohm without any wicking problems. That I know for sure. I've never had a wicking problem, or a dry hit with any of them. And the flavour is great, almost on par with a reo.

For a dripper I would go for the magma, for sure.

 

[Rob Fisher]

I must keep experimenting, I will watch some videos on youtube, I think I may be making my wicks too thick!
do you lay on the deck or do you lay into the channels? if so how far into the channels?

I tend to not make them too long because on the REO the wick is very short compared to the Russian. The wick must not be too thick and should move freely when you pull from each side without being loose. I can't really see the deck once the wick is in... I just drop a few drop of juice into it and push them down into the gaps with a little screw driver.

I will probably open the sealed Russian tomorrow and build a coil for it and will take pics.

 

[Rob Fisher]

The kayfun/russians I have owned all handle sub ohm coils down to .4ohm without any wicking problems. That I know for sure. I've never had a wicking problem, or a dry hit with any of them. And the flavour is great, almost on par with a reo.

For a dripper I would go for the magma, for sure.

I so agree with @Alex on the KayFun/Russian story... and I've heard great things about the Magma and will be getting one when I find one locally.

There is only one issue and it's a BIG one with Clone Kayfuns and Russians... a lot of them are absolute CRAP and leak! I have tried 5 clones and only one really worked ok but that has since retired when my originals arrived.

 

[Andre]

The kayfun/russians I have owned all handle sub ohm coils down to .4ohm without any wicking problems. That I know for sure. I've never had a wicking problem, or a dry hit with any of them. And the flavour is great, almost on par with a reo.

For a dripper I would go for the magma, for sure.

Thanks, I have a clone or two of those, but have never gone low with them. Just what I picked up from ECF.

 

[Mike]

@Alex, what wattage have you run yours at?

 

[Alex]

Thanks, I have a clone or two of those, but have never gone low with them. Just what I picked up from ECF.

Just realised I haven't used anything except the reo for the last week, I going to make a new coil for the kayfun and take it for a spin now

 

[Alex]

@Alex, what wattage have you run yours at?

I only use mechs now, but on the nemi it hits damn hard.