Getting Into The Mech Mod Side Of Things

[Snape of Vape]

Morning muggles,

So I started actually just looking for a dripper, small dripper, casual use, and I ended up ordering a bit more from Fasttech :/
http://www.ecigssa.co.za/threads/dripper-wanted-needed.2323 my original post.

I basically got the following:
- Nemesis mech mod
- Kayfun Lite
- Kayfun Nano body kit? (Not sure what this is, but yeah, it was related item)
- Trident RBA
- Atomizer Resistance tester
- Some drip tips


Now my questions are.
Battery side of things, should I get a 18350 for a small kind of all day use when I'm out, and a 18650 for a home use? How long can I expect to get from these batteries on usage? Will the 18350 not be very small and not last long? I've seen ones of 700MAH, currently I'm using a vision spinner, would those two compare?

On the 18650 side of things,
http://eciggies.co.za/Batteries/3400mAh_PANASONIC_Battery_18650
OR
http://www.vapeking.co.za/batteries/efest-purple-series-18650-35a-2500mah-flat-top-battery.html

I see that vape king doesn't have the Nitecore i2 in stock so I can't get the charger there, but I can only get Kanthal wire from there... So seems like I'll have to order from more than 1 store to get all the items I have.

Am I missing anything here? I just need the charger, batteries and some kanthal wire right?

 

[Andre]

For me 18350 is just too small, be prepared to carry a few spare batteries with you. It will last about 1/3 of the time of a Vision Spinner imo. Remember IMR batteries should never be discharged below 2.5 V.
The Panasonic batteries are not suited for a mech mod. Go for the Efests. If you can, get the Nitecore i4, will be handy for the future. Get 28g Kanthal wire.

 

[Snape of Vape]

For me 18350 is just too small, be prepared to carry a few spare batteries with you. It will last about 1/3 of the time of a Vision Spinner imo. Remember IMR batteries should never be discharged below 2.5 V.
The Panasonic batteries are not suited for a mech mod. Go for the Efests. If you can, get the Nitecore i4, will be handy for the future. Get 28g Kanthal wire.

Wait now, the 18350 will last a third of the time, or even something as big as that 18650 efest?? How about the 18500 then for a carry round device?

 

[Alex]

I would also
go for the efest 18650 purple range @ 35 watt

 

[Andre]

Wait now, the 18350 will last a third of the time, or even something as big as that 18650 efest?? How about the 18500 then for a carry round device?

The 18500s should be ok for carry round, if small is a factor for you.

 

[Snape of Vape]

The 18500s should be ok for carry round, if small is a factor for you.

Well not minute, but I don't really want to carry something in my pocket that's going to be the size of a 2l coke bottle...

For use at home I'm fine with going for the 18650

 

[Gazzacpt]

The nemmi is not that big in 650 mode. I go thru 2 650's during the day so for convenience I use those. I carry my mod spare batt and a full russian happiness is. also my little evod on a ego batt is in my pocket all the time.

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[Xhale]

@Snape of Vape the batteries wont last longer or shorter just "because"..
a 800mah 18350 will last as long as a theoretical 800mah ego. Always. Assuming everything else is equal.

In use they will probably experience different lives, the ego battery will be running a 1.8ohm coil on a clearo, and the 18350 will most likely be running something much lower on an rda/rba, which draws more power and hence is "lasts" shorter. You'll be asking more of the battery. Thats the benefit of a mech, low ohms, crazy coils, big plumes, but this all requires MORE power.

One small point also, the max amps that the battery can handle is partly determined by form factors.. 18650 can do 30a or even 35a in some cases, whereas 18350 top out at around 10 amps or so. So bear in mind, even if you have equivalent mah between an 18650 and an 18350 (lets assume), then the 18650 is most likely still going to be the better bet.

As usual, to all rules there are exceptions on the fringes, but this info is correct.

 

[RezaD]

Well it is not just simply a matter of size. If you plan on running seriously sub-ohm you have to look at the amperage rating of the batts e.g the purple Efests are 15A for the 18490 and 30/35A for 18650 ones IIRC. At 0.3 Ohms and a voltage of 4.22 you would draw 14.06 Amps from the batt. In that scenario only the 18650 is feasible. Dropping to 0.4 Ohms only draws 10A in comparison which I would be comfortable with using an 18490.

 

[Riaz]

18350's do not last long

id suggest getting 18650's

 

[Snape of Vape]

Ok great thanks guys. I'll get 1 or maybe 2 of those 18650 Efests as a start, figure out how big that is on the size part for me, and decide whether I do want to use the smaller batteries. I just hate going out with 2 or 3 devices in my pocket (currently I'd go out with two clearos).

I still have a lot to learn with regards to these things so will be ordering when I have a shipment date for my fasttech orders, seems like this week at least.

 

[ET]

the nemmy in 18350 mode is so cute and small, but you will need a few decent 18350 batts just to keep it running. they run down seriously quick when you're vaping up a storm. and as the others have said, they can't handle as much current

 

[Snape of Vape]

the nemmy in 18350 mode is so cute and small, but you will need a few decent 18350 batts just to keep it running. they run down seriously quick when you're vaping up a storm. and as the others have said, they can't handle as much current

Sweet, but things like that I'd figure out as I go along, know what I prefer, what ohm etc.

I'm just excited to get this running

 

[Xhale]

Ok great thanks guys. I'll get 1 or maybe 2 of those 18650 Efests as a start, figure out how big that is on the size part for me, and decide whether I do want to use the smaller batteries. I just hate going out with 2 or 3 devices in my pocket (currently I'd go out with two clearos).

I still have a lot to learn with regards to these things so will be ordering when I have a shipment date for my fasttech orders, seems like this week at least.

my personal real world experience...wife runs a nemesis in 18650 2500mah mode with a protank 2 on it @1.2ohms, for some reason that works for her...one battery last a day and a half with her working etc. She can vape at her desk, but she doesnt chain vape.
I swop her battery everynight for her, so she always has a fresh one for the work day, but it isnt necessary really.
I chain vape, at about 1ohms and an 18650 2500mah will last most of the working day.
We both use 18350 for e.g. going out to dinner, shopping, friends etc when you want something smaller than a lightsaber, or maybe if we are unsure of how much 18650 battery life we got left we just chuck a single 18350 in her handbag as the "spare" battery, just in case.

We had a 2bay charger, and this was in constant use, but I splashed out a bit on a nitecore i4 and now the charger seems to be empty most days and we always have spare charged batteries ready to go.

 

[Snape of Vape]

my personal real world experience...wife runs a nemesis in 18650 2500mah mode with a protank 2 on it @1.2ohms, for some reason that works for her...one battery last a day and a half with her working etc. She can vape at her desk, but she doesnt chain vape.
I swop her battery everynight for her, so she always has a fresh one for the work day, but it isnt necessary really.
I chain vape, at about 1ohms and an 18650 2500mah will last most of the working day.
We both use 18350 for e.g. going out to dinner, shopping, friends etc when you want something smaller than a lightsaber, or maybe if we are unsure of how much 18650 battery life we got left we just chuck a single 18350 in her handbag as the "spare" battery, just in case.

We had a 2bay charger, and this was in constant use, but I splashed out a bit on a nitecore i4 and now the charger seems to be empty most days and we always have spare charged batteries ready to go.

Ok then I'll get that 18650 x 2 and probably a small one or 2 for going out.
I don't vape at the office, never used to smoke at the office either. So mine is just at home when working there or watching TV or when going out socially.

I emailed fasttech about adding a charger to my order, but they haven't replied yet...

 

[Hein510]

Purple 18650 efest lasts me like a quarter day cause I'm running my trident on it these days with a 0.3ohm setup, don't have another one so I wait for it to charge and swop the trident out for a 0.8ohm Kayfun and then pop my purple 18500 efest in there, oh and 18490's doesn't work so lekka in the Nemi so rather get 500 and 650's

18650 isn't to bigan and I like big mods, wanna run a kick in there purely when popping a clearo on and making it a little bit bigger.

350 mode I keep holding the Kayfuns airhole closed with my fingers and juice starts leaking out there, so not a big fan of 350 mode on the Nemi

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[Riaz]

350 mode I keep holding the Kayfuns airhole closed with my fingers and juice starts leaking out there, so not a big fan of 350 mode on the Nemi

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@BhavZ gave me a lovely solution to this problem

- hold the nemi (in 350 mod) in your hand so you fire it with your index or middle finger

that way you wont block the airholes

 

[Reinvanhardt]

Hi Snape. Nice Fasttech order. You shall be all powerful on mail day

I've got two Efest 18500's and one 18350 in my arsenal. The 18500 last me about 4-5 hours and the 18350 last me about 2-3 hours. Up until recently I vaped a Kayfun and Trident at 0.6 ohms, so that is the kind of runtime you're looking at if you're a compulsive vaper. Also, I never let the batts drop below 3.75v. The less charge your battery has, the less power goes through your coil. It's a good idea to charge at 3.7v as it preserves the battery better too.

Do yourself a favour and have a look at this thread. It covers all the bases of battery safety and you'll have a greater understanding of the battery's role in mechs. This tip is really more of a prescription than a recommendation

28g kanthal is a good place to start. You'll also need a tiny phillips- and flat head screwdriver for attaching your coils, a pair of tweezers for pinching and shaping your coils, and some Dischem/Clicks cotton for fueling your coils.

Youtube is abundant with instructional coil building videos. The more you watch the more you learn the more you understand. Are you in Johannesburg? Let's see how you fare when your gear arrives but I will be happy to meet you after work one day to go through the entire process head to toe.

 

[Xhale]

ah quick, add this to your order
https://www.fasttech.com/p/1149800
little double sided flat/philips screwdriver for your keychaing, less than one dolla! (sometimes comes free with kayfuns)

 

[Snape of Vape]

@Reinvanhardt Thanks, I had a quick look at the thread and read the safety link, will get properly acquainted before I get started. Thanks for the offer, someone close to eciggies in Pta that I always visit has also offered to help me, I think it was @Wayne in another thread of mine. Otherwise I'll definitely take you up on that offer if he can't help!

@Vern Haha, luckily I have one of these http://tinyurl.com/cavfr92 that I can use when/if needed.

I now did some measurements and it seems that the Nemesis is a tiny bit smaller than the Vision Spinner 2 I bought today, and the Kayfun isn't that much taller than the mini protank 3, so in total I hopefully won't be sitting with a giant here. I know it will be fairly fat though...

 

[PeterHarris]

Mr @Snape of Vape your gona love the kayfun, i purchased one today. it was one of those spur of the moment purchases with a little push from @Rowan Francis of course

it sits very elegantly on the nemesis mod with a 18650 batt.
its actually shorter and smaller than my MVP with an aero tank....

and yes @RezaD that IS a WOODEN dice

 

[Andre]

Here is very good, and compulsory reading and viewing on the Nemesis: http://www.ecigssa.co.za/threads/nemesis-mech-mod.2312/

 

[Tom]

Even if late...I just ordered 2 more 18350's. Two were just not enough. Using it juat for the SVD tho, to have an acceptable sized one. On my mech mods the batts last me maybe 2-3 hours. Using the 18650 only in those. Have to admit that I change batts rather early...due to being a cloud chaser

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[RezaD]

Mr @Snape of Vape your gona love the kayfun, i purchased one today. it was one of those spur of the moment purchases with a little push from @Rowan Francis of course

it sits very elegantly on the nemesis mod with a 18650 batt.
its actually shorter and smaller than my MVP with an aero tank....

and yes @RezaD that IS a WOODEN dice

How did you know I was going to ask? It's settled then. ..from now on you will be known as Peter "Houte Lepel" Harris!!!

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[Alex]

Kayfun with a Nemesis, it's a match made in heaven