Middle of the month diy juice

[CharlieSierra]

Morning ladies & gents.

A while ago I was playing around with some diy concentrates & I mixed up 5% TFA Dragonfruit just to see how the flavour tastes as a standalone. I tried it today just for the heck of it and it's really not bad. I kind of enjoy it after being on tabacco juice for the most part of winter.
Thought I would share it for those who are short on juice & need to wait until payday , a R22 concentrate could go far for those long months.

I would suggest to get a 100mls of nic & premix vg/pg .Then you're sorted for when you are short on those delicious store bought juice

 

[RainstormZA]

Agreed. I'm sorted for the next four months and I still keep buying DIY stuff lol

 

[Dobie]

Wayne from diyordie.com actually made a video a few weeks ago regarding this. 5 best solo concentrates:

 

[Ruwaid]

Add to that is Soho

 

[RichJB]

TFA Red Licorice is another flavour that is probably better on its own than mixed with anything else.

 

[StompieZA]

Used to love vaping Dragonfruit solo, reminded me of those little box sherbets.

I agree with the video that Banana Nut bread is also great solo as well as RY4 double!

 

[Adephi]

Add to that is Soho

FA SoHo is really a good mix on its own. From 5-12%. Add 1-2% FA Meringue to really make it pop. Gives it almost a Nut Brittle type of taste.

 

[Vilaishima]

Hell yeah, just added RY4 Double and Banana Nut Bread to my order.

 

[Adephi]

For some easy one shot fruities you can try the following:

FA Forrest Mix 3-5%

FA Mad Fruit 3-5%

INW Shisha Orange 2%

INW Grapes 4%

FA Black Cherry (Cherryl) 2-3%

All of the above can do with some cooling and adjustments like 1% FA Cream Fresh. But work well as is.

Or just follow @Rude Rudi 's recipe's, where I got some of the above from

 

[Vilaishima]

Received my order today. Will try the banana nutbread and RY4 Double tomorrow.

 

[Silver]

Received my order today. Will try the banana nutbread and RY4 Double tomorrow.

Let us know

I like the idea of single concentrate juices

 

[ARYANTO]

I just wish more local vape shops would start stocking D I Y supplies , it kind of disappoints me that we basically have to mail order 99%
of our nics and flavs - I'm out of nic but have enough flavs ,vg and pg to mix up a storm , so mixing is on hold till I can put in an order that
makes the shipping worth the effort and money .... IMO.

 

[RichJB]

I think the problem is that DIY is an all or nothing kind of thing. The bigger vendors have made a considerable investment in stocking a large range of different lines. Some hardware B&M vendors have stocked a few DIY staples but I don't think they see much business. A vendor really needs to stock at least 7 or 8 different lines, with at least 50 flavours in each line, before they will attract serious DIYers.

First rule is leading to problems for vendors and DIYers alike. Vendors are under pressure to buy a vast range of stock, much of which will sit untouched on the shelf. And DIYers are under pressure to buy flavours that, beyond one or two recipes, they won't use.

I did an inventory check yesterday to reconcile my actual stock levels with the amounts reported in DIY Juice Calculator. It shocked me how many flavours I have which I bought in 2016 and which still have at least 8ml of the original 10ml left. There are some flavours which have had less than half a ml used for a SF tester and then nothing after that.

On the other hand, there are flavours like Vanilla Swirl, Bav, Zeppola, Cream Fresh, Yellow Cake, TFA Banana Cream, Inw Custard, TFA VBIC which vanish as quickly as I can buy them. And then other flavours like Flv Rich Cinnamon which I've used in 1857 juices but the level is still above the shoulder of the bottle because I only ever use one drop. Flv should give a prize to the first DIYer who actually manages to finish a bottle of Rich Cinnamon.

It's an inherently wasteful exercise for both vendors and consumers. I'm not sure what can be done about it, though.

 

[ARYANTO]

I think the problem is that DIY is an all or nothing kind of thing. The bigger vendors have made a considerable investment in stocking a large range of different lines. Some hardware B&M vendors have stocked a few DIY staples but I don't think they see much business. A vendor really needs to stock at least 7 or 8 different lines, with at least 50 flavours in each line, before they will attract serious DIYers.

First rule is leading to problems for vendors and DIYers alike. Vendors are under pressure to buy a vast range of stock, much of which will sit untouched on the shelf. And DIYers are under pressure to buy flavours that, beyond one or two recipes, they won't use.

I did an inventory check yesterday to reconcile my actual stock levels with the amounts reported in DIY Juice Calculator. It shocked me how many flavours I have which I bought in 2016 and which still have at least 8ml of the original 10ml left. There are some flavours which have had less than half a ml used for a SF tester and then nothing after that.

On the other hand, there are flavours like Vanilla Swirl, Bav, Zeppola, Cream Fresh, Yellow Cake, TFA Banana Cream, Inw Custard, TFA VBIC which vanish as quickly as I can buy them. And then other flavours like Flv Rich Cinnamon which I've used in 1857 juices but the level is still above the shoulder of the bottle because I only ever use one drop. Flv should give a prize to the first DIYer who actually manages to finish a bottle of Rich Cinnamon.

It's an inherently wasteful exercise for both vendors and consumers. I'm not sure what can be done about it, though.

Well that put it in context but what about just the basics vg, pg, nic and maybe some 1 shots....

 

[lesvaches]

Received my order today. Will try the banana nutbread and RY4 Double tomorrow.

have you tried any of it yet?

 

[RainstormZA]

I think the problem is that DIY is an all or nothing kind of thing. The bigger vendors have made a considerable investment in stocking a large range of different lines. Some hardware B&M vendors have stocked a few DIY staples but I don't think they see much business. A vendor really needs to stock at least 7 or 8 different lines, with at least 50 flavours in each line, before they will attract serious DIYers.

First rule is leading to problems for vendors and DIYers alike. Vendors are under pressure to buy a vast range of stock, much of which will sit untouched on the shelf. And DIYers are under pressure to buy flavours that, beyond one or two recipes, they won't use.

I did an inventory check yesterday to reconcile my actual stock levels with the amounts reported in DIY Juice Calculator. It shocked me how many flavours I have which I bought in 2016 and which still have at least 8ml of the original 10ml left. There are some flavours which have had less than half a ml used for a SF tester and then nothing after that.

On the other hand, there are flavours like Vanilla Swirl, Bav, Zeppola, Cream Fresh, Yellow Cake, TFA Banana Cream, Inw Custard, TFA VBIC which vanish as quickly as I can buy them. And then other flavours like Flv Rich Cinnamon which I've used in 1857 juices but the level is still above the shoulder of the bottle because I only ever use one drop. Flv should give a prize to the first DIYer who actually manages to finish a bottle of Rich Cinnamon.

It's an inherently wasteful exercise for both vendors and consumers. I'm not sure what can be done about it, though.

I only buy what I need - pg and vg lasts a good considerable amount but the flavours are finished every time I mix.

I always make sure I have enough for myself and sometimes I give away some.

 

[Vilaishima]

The answer should be la

have you tried any of it yet?

Indeed I have. I mixed them on Saturday evening.

The RY4 Double needs some steeping I think but it is showing promise. Mixed it at 5% with 1.5% Nic.

The Banana Nut Bread is really good. Mixed it at 8% with 1.5% Nic. It is a surprising complex flavour for a single concentrate.

I will give them a couple of more days and then give some feedback.

 

[Dobie]

Yip, RY4 needs a bit of time to get rid of that gymsock stewed in veggiesoup smell

 

[lesvaches]

The answer should be la

Indeed I have. I mixed them on Saturday evening.

The RY4 Double needs some steeping I think but it is showing promise. Mixed it at 5% with 1.5% Nic.

The Banana Nut Bread is really good. Mixed it at 8% with 1.5% Nic. It is a surprising complex flavour for a single concentrate.

I will give them a couple of more days and then give some feedback.

dying to try that banana nut bread

 

[Vilaishima]

Yip, RY4 needs a bit of time to get rid of that gymsock stewed in veggiesoup smell

That is the weirdest thing. It smells nothing like it tastes.

 

[RainstormZA]

Yip, RY4 needs a bit of time to get rid of that gymsock stewed in veggiesoup smell

Sies man, stop dipping your dirty socks into your veggie soup

 

[Dobie]

Sies man, stop dipping your dirty socks into your veggie soup

Hey now, don't rip on people's tastes. I have the palate of Gordon. Not chef Ramsay, Gordon the hobo that digs through the dumpster behind my local Spur.

 

[RichJB]

Well that put it in context but what about just the basics vg, pg, nic and maybe some 1 shots....

B&Ms generally have to charge more so DIYers usually prefer to buy online. If you're ordering online and paying delivery for your flavours, you'll add bases and nic at the same time. So for a B&M, its DIY market is people who:
* ran out of a base or nic
* are willing to drive to a shop to get some, and
* will pay more for it

At best, it's emergency weekend customers rather than regular customers. I don't think that's a big enough market to warrant keeping the stock, installing refrigeration facilities for the nic, etc. Several vendors like Vape Cartel and Vaperite have tried DIY and they generally seem to have a clearance sale and shut it down after a while. DIY doesn't seem profitable for anybody but DIY specialist vendors.

I only buy what I need - pg and vg lasts a good considerable amount but the flavours are finished every time I mix.

That's fine if you only have a few juices in your rotation. I have more than 500 recipes now and keep adding more to stay reasonably current with what is being released on ATF. Many of the flavours I use are additives/enhancers which are normally used in the 0.25-0.75% range: FA Meringue, FW Hazelnut, TFA Butter, Inw Cactus and so on. To kill a 10ml bottle of those, I'd have to mix up about two litres of juices all containing that flavour.

If I only vaped ID10-T's Simple Sugar Cookie (8% Cap Sugar Cookie, 4% Cap Vanilla Custard) or Shyndo's D Cream (8% TFA VBIC, 2% FA Fuji), it would be simple. I could buy large bottles of each flavour, mix up several litres and not have to mix again for six months. But then I'd have to vape Simple Sugar Cookie or D Cream all day every day. I'm not willing to do that. I generally switch flavours every half hour or so, and have at least 30 juices on my desk with another 40+ in the steeping cupboard. Once you get into that zone, there is no option but to maintain a vast stock of concentrates - some of which see very limited use.

 

[SarChasm]

Wayne from diyordie.com actually made a video a few weeks ago regarding this. 5 best solo concentrates:

Is Cap VC v2 really vapable on it's own? Does it not taste flatter and have less depth than v1?
I'm only asking because I haven't tried v1 yet, I have tried v2 on it's own and do feel like it's missing something.

Edit: How does Cap Lemon Meringue v1 differ from v2?

 

[Vilaishima]

Vaped some Banana Nut Bread. It is really good!
It smells very strongly of banana but the taste is much more balanced. It really does taste like banana nnut bread.