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[Jengz]

Hi guys,

So I've recently started DIY'ing and I must be doing things horribly wrong because even after 3 weeks of steeping my stuff still taste like feet!

I've purchased all the concentrates in the pics I've attached and would just like to know if I have bought the wrong brands of each flavour or am I the problem in this whole crappy situation.

I really enjoy all types of juice besides chocolate vapes. Love my Cereals and desserts. Also a huge fan of xxx panama and cranberry ice. So actually all decent fruits cereals and dessert. I'm not that fussy, just don't enjoy the feet vape I keep getting!

I'm soon looking to place another order from blckvapour(greatest service in the world) and would just like some advice on what concentrates to get to add and help me along this journey.

Also, is a scale very necessary or can I be using mls in my recipes?

Thanks in advance
Jengz

 

[RichJB]

Flavours are fine, what recipes are you making?

Keep the scale. It's not absolutely necessary but it's way better than mixing by volume.

 

[Jengz]

Flavours are fine, what recipes are you making?

Keep the scale. It's not absolutely necessary but it's way better than mixing by volume.

I don't have a scale, so guessing that I should get one... I've tried unicorns milk, loopers, strawberry cheesecake but they all still so horrible.

Also tried a mango litchi but man alive that stuffs ridiculously terrible.

Any recipes you can recommend for the concentrates I have

 

[Scissorhands]

Other possibilities

- Your nic wasnt properly shaken before mixing

- oxidised nic

- substitution in the recipe?

Kind regards

 

[RichJB]

If I was going to try a Mango Lychee, it wouldn't be with TFA Mango or Lychee. They're not really best of breed for those profiles. Ditto with TFA Fruit Circles. Still, they shouldn't taste like feet. Have you smelled all the various bottles - VG, PG, nic, flavours, to ensure that you aren't getting any off smells from them?

There's not a heck of a lot you can make with what you have but them's the breaks when you only have a few flavours starting out. It's a pity you didn't get TFA VBIC because that's a useful first flavour to have. You can put basically any fruit with it and have a decent vape. If you don't get pepper from it, that is. shyndo has a really good D Cream which is just 8% VBIC 2% FA Fuji. The closest you have is Bav Cream which is good too. skiddlz has a Cereally Easy fruit loops which is just 4% Bav 4% FW Fruit Rings. I guess you could try 4% Bav, 4% Berry Crunch, with maybe 0.5% TFA Marshmallow for a bit of sweetening and mouth feel.

You could also take basically any one of your fruits at 5-6%, add 2-3% Bav and you should at least get something decently vapeable from it. Otherwise take 4-5% of one of the cheesecakes and 5-6% of one of the fruits, preferably strawb or pineapple. Although, at a guess, the cheesecakes might be a source of at least some of the feet taste you're getting. Cap NYC can be a bit tangy. Sweet Cream too, come to think of it.

Cap Vanilla Custard is also pretty versatile. Take 3-4% Cap VC, add 2% of one of the cheesecakes, then again add a single fruit at 5-6%. Although for all of these simple fruit mixes, I'd probably steer clear of the Lychee. You can also safely add 0.5-1% TFA Marshmallow to these mixes if you want them a little sweeter and smoother. Alternatively add 0.3-0.5% Sweetener to help the fruit flavour pop a bit.

The flavours I wouldn't experiment with atm are Dairy/Milk, Fruit Circles, Coconut Extra. They can all be useful but I'd rather use them in known and popular recipes as they all have issues.

 

[Jengz]

If I was going to try a Mango Lychee, it wouldn't be with TFA Mango or Lychee. They're not really best of breed for those profiles. Ditto with TFA Fruit Circles. Still, they shouldn't taste like feet. Have you smelled all the various bottles - VG, PG, nic, flavours, to ensure that you aren't getting any off smells from them?

There's not a heck of a lot you can make with what you have but them's the breaks when you only have a few flavours starting out. It's a pity you didn't get TFA VBIC because that's a useful first flavour to have. You can put basically any fruit with it and have a decent vape. If you don't get pepper from it, that is. shyndo has a really good D Cream which is just 8% VBIC 2% FA Fuji. The closest you have is Bav Cream which is good too. skiddlz has a Cereally Easy fruit loops which is just 4% Bav 4% FW Fruit Rings. I guess you could try 4% Bav, 4% Berry Crunch, with maybe 0.5% TFA Marshmallow for a bit of sweetening and mouth feel.

You could also take basically any one of your fruits at 5-6%, add 2-3% Bav and you should at least get something decently vapeable from it. Otherwise take 4-5% of one of the cheesecakes and 5-6% of one of the fruits, preferably strawb or pineapple. Although, at a guess, the cheesecakes might be a source of at least some of the feet taste you're getting. Cap NYC can be a bit tangy. Sweet Cream too, come to think of it.

Cap Vanilla Custard is also pretty versatile. Take 3-4% Cap VC, add 2% of one of the cheesecakes, then again add a single fruit at 5-6%. Although for all of these simple fruit mixes, I'd probably steer clear of the Lychee. You can also safely add 0.5-1% TFA Marshmallow to these mixes if you want them a little sweeter and smoother. Alternatively add 0.3-0.5% Sweetener to help the fruit flavour pop a bit.

The flavours I wouldn't experiment with atm are Dairy/Milk, Fruit Circles, Coconut Extra. They can all be useful but I'd rather use them in known and popular recipes as they all have issues.

Wow! Thanks for the response! I'm gonna try all these above mentioned when I'm back from work, will let you know how it goes! Thanks so much for the help and advise, really appreciate it man.

I'll add a good lychee and mango to my next blckvapour purchase as I love those two kind of vapes

 

[Jengz]

Oh and definitely a bottle or two of VBIC

 

[TheV]

If I was going to try a Mango Lychee, it wouldn't be with TFA Mango or Lychee. They're not really best of breed for those profiles. Ditto with TFA Fruit Circles. Still, they shouldn't taste like feet. Have you smelled all the various bottles - VG, PG, nic, flavours, to ensure that you aren't getting any off smells from them?

There's not a heck of a lot you can make with what you have but them's the breaks when you only have a few flavours starting out. It's a pity you didn't get TFA VBIC because that's a useful first flavour to have. You can put basically any fruit with it and have a decent vape. If you don't get pepper from it, that is. shyndo has a really good D Cream which is just 8% VBIC 2% FA Fuji. The closest you have is Bav Cream which is good too. skiddlz has a Cereally Easy fruit loops which is just 4% Bav 4% FW Fruit Rings. I guess you could try 4% Bav, 4% Berry Crunch, with maybe 0.5% TFA Marshmallow for a bit of sweetening and mouth feel.

You could also take basically any one of your fruits at 5-6%, add 2-3% Bav and you should at least get something decently vapeable from it. Otherwise take 4-5% of one of the cheesecakes and 5-6% of one of the fruits, preferably strawb or pineapple. Although, at a guess, the cheesecakes might be a source of at least some of the feet taste you're getting. Cap NYC can be a bit tangy. Sweet Cream too, come to think of it.

Cap Vanilla Custard is also pretty versatile. Take 3-4% Cap VC, add 2% of one of the cheesecakes, then again add a single fruit at 5-6%. Although for all of these simple fruit mixes, I'd probably steer clear of the Lychee. You can also safely add 0.5-1% TFA Marshmallow to these mixes if you want them a little sweeter and smoother. Alternatively add 0.3-0.5% Sweetener to help the fruit flavour pop a bit.

The flavours I wouldn't experiment with atm are Dairy/Milk, Fruit Circles, Coconut Extra. They can all be useful but I'd rather use them in known and popular recipes as they all have issues.

@RichJB, thank you for your informative and detailed posts. I always manage to learn something new when reading your replies (whether directed at me or not).
There aren't enough "like" buttons for me to hit so I just wanted to say thank you properly. The knowledge that you share is very much appreciated!

 

[Jengz]

@RichJB, thank you for your informative and detailed posts. I always manage to learn something new when reading your replies (whether directed at me or not).
There aren't enough "like" buttons for me to hit so I just wanted to say thank you properly. The knowledge that you share is very much appreciated!

This guy is next level

 

[RenaldoRheeder]

@RichJB, thank you for your informative and detailed posts. I always manage to learn something new when reading your replies (whether directed at me or not).
There aren't enough "like" buttons for me to hit so I just wanted to say thank you properly. The knowledge that you share is very much appreciated!

I can second that. Give that man a Bells. @RichJB



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[Silver]

I can second that. Give that man a Bells. @RichJB



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I will third that

@RichJB - your posts are amazing. Thank you

 

[Tanja]

I'll have to 4th that then

 

[Andre]

And I shall take the 5th!

 

[RichJB]

I'm gonna try all these above mentioned when I'm back from work, will let you know how it goes!

These won't be great juices by any means but they should at least be vapeable without giving you any off-flavours. I don't know the recipes you cited but it's possible that they are dated and over-flavoured, and that is where the off-flavours are coming in. Things like Fruit Circles and Coconut Extra can cause a juice to go south really quickly. So I've eliminated the risky ones and given you sane, current and safe percentages to work with. If you're still getting nasty results then we can delve deeper into your mixing process and see if something else is causing it. It's always tempting to blame bad nic or tainted ingredients but I doubt that. Blck's service and products are top notch, I can't see that being the cause.

If you're going to be buying more concentrates and want some good, known, proven, simple recipes to mix up, we gave @TheV some suggestions in this thread. Those mixes seem to have worked for him, as they have for many others. So if those are also producing tainted results for you, then there is definitely something amiss and we can again delve deeper into potential causes.

 

[RichJB]

Oh and definitely a bottle or two of VBIC

I have to warn that some unlucky folks get a pepper taste from it. But you won't know until you try it and you definitely need to try it. It's a very useful flavour that is used in a ton of recipes and should be in every DIYer's arsenal. If you do get pepper from it, you can use one of the other VBICs or HS French Vanilla Ice Cream instead.

 

[Jengz]

These won't be great juices by any means but they should at least be vapeable without giving you any off-flavours. I don't know the recipes you cited but it's possible that they are dated and over-flavoured, and that is where the off-flavours are coming in. Things like Fruit Circles and Coconut Extra can cause a juice to go south really quickly. So I've eliminated the risky ones and given you sane, current and safe percentages to work with. If you're still getting nasty results then we can delve deeper into your mixing process and see if something else is causing it. It's always tempting to blame bad nic or tainted ingredients but I doubt that. Blck's service and products are top notch, I can't see that being the cause.

If you're going to be buying more concentrates and want some good, known, proven, simple recipes to mix up, we gave @TheV some suggestions in this thread. Those mixes seem to have worked for him, as they have for many others. So if those are also producing tainted results for you, then there is definitely something amiss and we can again delve deeper into potential causes.

Can't wait to get home now so I can put this all into practice! Thanks @RichJB.... this is amazing help and really excited for the second time of diy

 

[Friep]

Something simple you can try is 10% tfa strawberry ripe, 3% tfa cheesecake Graham crust, 3% tfa Bavarian cream and 2% tfa vanilla custard shake and vape it. You can also ad 1% marshmallow to the mix or 0.5% makes it a bit more creamy and sweet

 

[Jengz]

Something simple you can try is 10% tfa strawberry ripe, 3% tfa cheesecake Graham crust, 3% tfa Bavarian cream and 2% tfa vanilla custard shake and vape it. You can also ad 1% marshmallow to the mix or 0.5% makes it a bit more creamy and sweet

Woohoooo! Gonna try this also thanks!

 

[Friep]

Woohoooo! Gonna try this also thanks!

Please let me know what you think of that recipe

 

[TheV]

These won't be great juices by any means but they should at least be vapeable without giving you any off-flavours. I don't know the recipes you cited but it's possible that they are dated and over-flavoured, and that is where the off-flavours are coming in. Things like Fruit Circles and Coconut Extra can cause a juice to go south really quickly. So I've eliminated the risky ones and given you sane, current and safe percentages to work with. If you're still getting nasty results then we can delve deeper into your mixing process and see if something else is causing it. It's always tempting to blame bad nic or tainted ingredients but I doubt that. Blck's service and products are top notch, I can't see that being the cause.

If you're going to be buying more concentrates and want some good, known, proven, simple recipes to mix up, we gave @TheV some suggestions in this thread. Those mixes seem to have worked for him, as they have for many others. So if those are also producing tainted results for you, then there is definitely something amiss and we can again delve deeper into potential causes.

@Jengz, this is solid information. Start small. Make 10ml of some less complicated recipes to make sure there aren't other underlying problems.
Once you have that down and its "safe" then move on to some more complicated recipes

 

[Friep]

If you like lychee give fa lychee or cap sweet lychee a go I love fa lychee tastes like lychee juice or those cool time lychee iceies. I use fa lychee at 1% in one of my mixes

 

[Jengz]

If you like lychee give fa lychee or cap sweet lychee a go I love fa lychee tastes like lychee juice or those cool time lychee iceies. I use fa lychee at 1% in one of my mixes

What lychee recipe can I make, I'm so scared of lychee hahaha I amper quit vaping when I vaped my mango lychee

 

[Jengz]

@Jengz, this is solid information. Start small. Make 10ml of some less complicated recipes to make sure there aren't other underlying problems.
Once you have that down and its "safe" then move on to some more complicated recipes

I have so much confidence I started and made a 60 ml unicorns milk as my first recipe... sjoeh I ate humble pie very quickly

 

[RichJB]

@zandernwn has a lychee recipe that was well received.

 

[TheV]

I have so much confidence I started and made a 60 ml unicorns milk as my first recipe... sjoeh I ate humble pie very quickly

Haha I call that OverEagerBeaver
I made some wasteful mixes like this in the beginning as well, it happens!

Now I make 10ml for things I'm not sure of, 30ml of things that I'm confident of and 100ml of things that I've already made.