Should parents be allowed to spank their children?

[Hooked]

It is illegal to spank your child in SA – ConCourt
https://www.capetownetc.com/news/it-is-illegal-to-spank-your-child-in-sa-concourt
18 Sept. 2019

The Constitutional Court of South Africa (ConCourt) has ruled that the common defence of “reasonable and moderate parental chastisement” of children is now unconstitutional. The unanimous judgement was handed down on Wednesday, September 18, when the court ruled there are other more reasonable ways to discipline children.

The judgment has not labelled it as a new offence, as hitting a child has always been categorised as assault under South African law. Previously, a parent who smacked their child was able to raise a special defence of reasonable chastisement while pleading in court.

Parents had the opportunity to be acquitted of assault if the chastisement in question is deemed moderate and reasonable.

Many parents, however, have complained that “reasonable chastisement” is difficult to intepret as one parent’s tough love may be considered another’s beating. The Department of Social Development will table the matter to establish a full ban on physically disclipining children.

Wednesday’s ruling follows a 2017 High Court judgement which deemed all forms of physical correction of children by their parents as unlawful.

 

[Room Fogger]

I most probably got more hidings than food, but I was never “donnerred into oblivion”, and ek was hel stout. There is a fine line between chastisement and abuse, but a good smack in my case taught me the line between right and wrong, I had manners, I had respect and lo and behold, I haven’t turned into a druggie, not a alcoholic, not a manic depressive and not a mass murderer.

A spanking differes from assault in more than one way, just a pity that as with everything else you will allways find the one that oversteps the boundaries.

Also for interest sake, a acquaintance that who never had a hiding in his life became a bully to his kids and a wife beater. It’s not the hiding, it’s the love that forms a child and determines their character and their future. A 1-2-3 problem solved with a slap on the backside has in my case given me two great kids with no mental problems and all of the above as in my case.

This is my opinion based on my life and experiences, you are entitled to your own.

 

[zadiac]

My ore het in my gat gesit en my ma het my gat geslaan om my ore oop te maak en dit het gewerk. Dankie Ma!

 

[Amir]

It's a simple one really... You are entrusted with the future of humanity. Do what you must to ensure that you shape and develop and young adults into constructive members of society.

Polite, considerate, well spoken and well mannered nature is born in respect and obedience to parents. Sometimes, to obtain the obedience and respect required you need to reinforce your behavioural module with a good spanking.
I strongly stand against beating respect and obedience out of a child through excessive force as this can create a false illusion of the desired result... Instead, you get fear in return.

I recall when I was a kid, maybe about 5 or 6 years old. Grew up in a family with little money but tons of culture and morals. I developed an inclination towards theft, kinda like pinching a packet of chips from the tuck shop or taking candy out of the jar while no one was looking. All it took was a good spanking for me to realise that hey, wait a minute... Stealing is wrong, stealing is bad... I mean I was told about it, on numerous occasions... But all the lectures and talking never worked. Had that spanking never happened, I would've grown with the assumption that it's not a major offence or one that could be taken lightly. The same applied to lying and cheating.

Some lessons you never forget... Especially the ones that involve a stinging backside.

 

[Hooked]

I firmly agree that when necessary a child should get a spanking. There are times when talking is not enough.

I was never spanked, but my Mom used to pull my ears, which is probably why I have big ears lol. My Dad never spanked me physically, but his verbal anger was something that one did not want to experience!

 

[Adephi]

 

[SparkySA]

Party kinders kort net 'n high five met 'n baksteen in die gesig,

 

[SparkySA]

Die verskil tussen pakslae en bliksem is liefde

 

[Mo_MZ]

Saw this on FB.
Only in SA..
You allowed to smoke weed legally in your home but can't spank your brats lol

 

[Adephi]

Saw this on FB.
Only in SA..
You allowed to smoke weed legally in your home but can't spank your brats lol

If you do smoke weed in the house you will most likely realise a spanking is just not worth the effort and return to your cheese curls and spongebob binge.

 

[Chickenstrip]

I still have nightmares about mom's wooden spoon. And one day, so will my children.

 

[Mo_MZ]

If you do smoke weed in the house you will most likely realise a spanking is just not worth the effort and return to your cheese curls and spongebob binge.

That's brilliant @Adephi

 

[Hooked]

I still have nightmares about mom's wooden spoon. And one day, so will my children.

@Chickenstrip

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

No spanking should not be legal. Idiots should not be able to spank children and unfortunately idiots are in the mayority everywhere in the world.
I see this with friends, family, at school etc. Idiots cant control their emotions and then dont think clear when they give kids a hiding. Hitting them to hard, on the back, the face, kick or whatever, just because they cant control their anger. In this rage they also swear, say nasty things to children that you cant take back later.

Do I spank my children? Not to often but yes. But never in a rage. Always with a smile. Telling them exactly what they did wrong, how many times I asked nicely to stop doing it, and that obviously asking nicely did not work and now we must try tactict 2. If they naughty in public I just smile and say we will sort it out when we back home. Then they know whats comming and they know it will happen.
But unfortunately most people cant be the adult, this is all over society, rich/ well educated people that totally goed beserk about the smallest things the children do, because they are stressed about other things in their lives.
If you want to spank children, wait 10min, cool down, think if they really deserve it and then go do it with a smile

 

[Raindance]

You can not, nay, may not, reason with an under developed (immature) brain. The only way to develop the brain and instill the basic concept of every action having an appropriate and proportionate reaction is through the primordial impact of physical stress and experience. If you do otherwise you raise a generation of idiot miss-fits that will repeatedly vote for the same failed political party expecting them to change their ailing fortunes.

Enough said.

Regards

 

[Chickenstrip]

No spanking should not be legal. Idiots should not be able to spank children and unfortunately idiots are in the mayority everywhere in the world.
I see this with friends, family, at school etc. Idiots cant control their emotions and then dont think clear when they give kids a hiding. Hitting them to hard, on the back, the face, kick or whatever, just because they cant control their anger. In this rage they also swear, say nasty things to children that you cant take back later.

Do I spank my children? Not to often but yes. But never in a rage. Always with a smile. Telling them exactly what they did wrong, how many times I asked nicely to stop doing it, and that obviously asking nicely did not work and now we must try tactict 2. If they naughty in public I just smile and say we will sort it out when we back home. Then they know whats comming and they know it will happen.
But unfortunately most people cant be the adult, this is all over society, rich/ well educated people that totally goed beserk about the smallest things the children do, because they are stressed about other things in their lives.
If you want to spank children, wait 10min, cool down, think if they really deserve it and then go do it with a smile

Spanking should not be legal, but you spank your own children? With a smile?

*Screams uncontrollably*

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

Spanking should not be legal, but you spank your own children? With a smile?

*Screams uncontrollably*

Thanks, proved mayority theory

 

[Silver]

No spanking should not be legal. Idiots should not be able to spank children and unfortunately idiots are in the mayority everywhere in the world.
I see this with friends, family, at school etc. Idiots cant control their emotions and then dont think clear when they give kids a hiding. Hitting them to hard, on the back, the face, kick or whatever, just because they cant control their anger. In this rage they also swear, say nasty things to children that you cant take back later.

Do I spank my children? Not to often but yes. But never in a rage. Always with a smile. Telling them exactly what they did wrong, how many times I asked nicely to stop doing it, and that obviously asking nicely did not work and now we must try tactict 2. If they naughty in public I just smile and say we will sort it out when we back home. Then they know whats comming and they know it will happen.
But unfortunately most people cant be the adult, this is all over society, rich/ well educated people that totally goed beserk about the smallest things the children do, because they are stressed about other things in their lives.
If you want to spank children, wait 10min, cool down, think if they really deserve it and then go do it with a smile

Thanks @Jean claude Vaaldamme

Some questions if I may

How old are your kids?
How hard to you spank them and where? With your hand?
Does it work? Do they stop doing whatever they did that got them a spank?

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

Thanks @Jean claude Vaaldamme

Some questions if I may

How old are your kids?
How hard to you spank them and where? With your hand?
Does it work? Do they stop doing whatever they did that got them a spank?

Is this confessions for court case?

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

You can not, nay, may not, reason with an under developed (immature) brain. The only way to develop the brain and instill the basic concept of every action having an appropriate and proportionate reaction is through the primordial impact of physical stress and experience. If you do otherwise you raise a generation of idiot miss-fits that will repeatedly vote for the same failed political party expecting them to change their ailing fortunes.

Enough said.

Regards

Yes thats the truth. However the the reaction to every action, does not have to be violence, because then in a world full of violence you just continuing the circle. The action can be no friends for a week or no tv etc. Its the under developed (immature) brain, that thinks of violence first

 

[Silver]

Is this confessions for court case?

No not at all, was just interested and curious
My little boy is 18 months so am keen to understand this more

 

[Adephi]

No not at all, was just interested and curious
My little boy is 18 months so am keen to understand this more

Wait another 18 months, you'll understand.

 

[Room Fogger]

No not at all, was just interested and curious
My little boy is 18 months so am keen to understand this more

I agree with a lot that has been said here @Silver , but also that the punishment has to fit the crime! Some pointers for you and some facts for interest sake, from my point of view of course, others may differ from me.

Mine soon understood that I say no or stop once, after then three light taps on the but and the problem is solved. I called it making you a Sergeant.
A hand is a heavy thing, you’re not playing handball or trying to hit a home run.
That hug afterwards is the key to doing this successfully.
If you wait untill you get home the why will not be known or remembered by them any more in 90% of the cases.
Accept that kids will be naughty, but there is a line that cannot be crossed. And your resolve will be tested.
Not every transgression deserves a hiding.
Butt taps only, otherwise I see it as assault and bullying.
Over time a talking to, or even just one word is all that is needed once the foundation has been laid, a tap may not be necessary.
Never ever ever ever do this if you are angry.

Enjoy them while they are small, they grow up way too fast.
Read this list and then do what you want, not what others say you should do. Just be a loving parent.

 

[Raindance]

Yes thats the truth. However the the reaction to every action, does not have to be violence, because then in a world full of violence you just continuing the circle. The action can be no friends for a week or no tv etc. Its the under developed (immature) brain, that thinks of violence first

Never, ever react in anger. A proper spanking should hurt the giver as much as the recipient. It should be an act of love not primal emotion. If done correctly there is no violence involved.

Regards

 

[Darius1332]

As jy nie wil hoor nie dan moet jy voel. Thats what I grew up with and agree with, but I rather believe that how you raise your kids should be for each Parent to decide. This is a gross overreach of government responsibility to tell people what they may or may not do in their own families.

Government needs to stop sticking its nose where it does not belong and go fix everything they are supposed to do and failing miserably at. Maybe if we could give all our ministers a sound hiding we could get back to a functional country.