Smokers Unite (8 July) - Protest against smoking vaping ban

[vapeandacrepe]

These protests are being coordinated by multiple people in various cities across the country for July 8 at 7am.

More information and links to localized organizing groups.
https://t.me/joinchat/NVHWpkq_rF5H5MFW4ACgCQ

"INFO FOR 8 JULY

* Make sure you are there by 7 am
* Dress warmly
* Wear a mask
* Practice social distancing
* Bring water and something to eat
* Bring placards (no bad language )
* Have a sticker in car window
* No children
* No fire arms
* No burning of tyres
* No damaging of property
* Block road with trucks, bikes and cars
* Please stay in your car until road is blocked off
* No march, we will stand in one place
* Red triangles must be put and the back of blocked cars

# Please know that the group leaders did their part in making sure this is legal. Please do your part in making sure this is peaceful. Together we will get this ban lifted. This will be the first time in the history of South Africa that all the races will protest together to make a difference. Lets go down in the history books as the biggest peaceful protest"

 

[Resistance]

These protests are being coordinated by multiple people across the country for July 8 at 7am.

"INFO FOR 8 JULY

* Make sure you are there by 7 am
* Dress warmly
* Wear a mask
* Practice social distancing
* Bring water and something to eat
* Bring placards (no bad language )
* Have a sticker in car window
* No children
* No fire arms
* No burning of tyres
* No damaging of property
* Block road with trucks, bikes and cars
* Please stay in your car until road is blocked off
* No march, we will stand in one place
* Red triangles must be put and the back of blocked cars

# Please know that the group leaders did their part in making sure this is legal. Please do your part in making sure this is peaceful. Together we will get this ban lifted. This will be the first time in the history of South Africa that all the races will protest together to make a difference. Lets go down in the history books as the biggest peaceful protest"

More information and links to localized organizing groups.
https://t.me/joinchat/NVHWpkq_rF5H5MFW4ACgCQ

Bring a sign.
I'm a Vaper not a smoker!

 

[vapeandacrepe]

Trying to gauge interest. How many of you would be willing to actually join and take part, even if it turns out more a symbolic gesture than an effective action (as if our government gives a shit)?

 

[Adephi]

I'm just concerned of the blocking of roads. As far as I know thats illegal. And I don't want my car impounded at this stage.

 

[vapeandacrepe]

I'm just concerned of the blocking of roads. As far as I know thats illegal. And I don't want my car impounded at this stage.

There have been a few concerns highlighted such as this as well as aggravating the taxi drivers routes but the coordinators seem to be hashing this all out on the group chats, have engaged and are engaging with municipal members to gain permission for the protests etc. I'm sure the final plans will be more concrete in days to come. My biggest concern is the pandemic, not a good idea to have masses of people in the streets, I'd be staying in my car lol. A pure car road block would be more fitting but doesn't send as effective a message I guess, if any to this government with its many motives?

 

[Chickenstrip]

These protests are being coordinated by multiple people in various cities across the country for July 8 at 7am.

More information and links to localized organizing groups.
https://t.me/joinchat/NVHWpkq_rF5H5MFW4ACgCQ

"INFO FOR 8 JULY

* Make sure you are there by 7 am
* Dress warmly
* Wear a mask
* Practice social distancing
* Bring water and something to eat
* Bring placards (no bad language )
* Have a sticker in car window
* No children
* No fire arms
* No burning of tyres
* No damaging of property
* Block road with trucks, bikes and cars
* Please stay in your car until road is blocked off
* No march, we will stand in one place
* Red triangles must be put and the back of blocked cars

# Please know that the group leaders did their part in making sure this is legal. Please do your part in making sure this is peaceful. Together we will get this ban lifted. This will be the first time in the history of South Africa that all the races will protest together to make a difference. Lets go down in the history books as the biggest peaceful protest"

Blocking roads with vehicles is childish. If an ambulance needs to pass then what? Block the roads with your bodies and take note of how the Hong Kong protestors do things. Your fix isn't worth someone else's life. Especially in these dire times.

 

[Chickenstrip]

"This will be the first time in the history of South Africa that all the races will protest together to make a difference"

- sucked from someone's A hole I presume?

 

[vapeandacrepe]

Blocking roads with vehicles is childish. If an ambulance needs to pass then what? Block the roads with your bodies and take note of how the Hong Kong protestors do things. Your fix isn't worth someone else's life. Especially in these dire times.

Well I mean I don't think they're planning to cause grid-lock for the whole day but I hear you. Road block causes chaos, people protests spread covid, court cases and online petitions do nothing. What do we do?

I can't agree on it being merely about getting our fix, it's about losing billions in tax revenue for a dodgy state purposefully proliferating the black market and denying a basic liberty to 5-11 million people on stupid logic.

 

[Timwis]

Well I mean I don't think they're planning to cause grid-lock for the whole day but I hear you. Road block causes chaos, people protests spread covid, court cases and online petitions do nothing. What do we do?

I can't agree on it being merely about getting our fix, it's about losing billions in tax revenue for a dodgy state purposefully proliferating the black market and denying a basic liberty to 5-11 million people on stupid logic.

At the risk of as i am in the UK not actually knowing what i'm talking about but from what i have heard of South African politics wouldn't it be more effective for everyone to put money in the pot and send a couple of stuffed brown envelopes to the right people!!!

 

[Adephi]

At the risk of as i am in the UK not actually knowing what i'm talking about but from what i have heard of South African politics wouldn't it be more effective for everyone to put money in the pot and send a couple of stuffed brown envelopes to the right people!!!

You know exactly how African politics work.

 

[mrh]

At the risk of as i am in the UK not actually knowing what i'm talking about but from what i have heard of South African politics wouldn't it be more effective for everyone to put money in the pot and send a couple of stuffed brown envelopes to the right people!!!

What money? Gov has some, - and top 2 percent of the population. I can't even afford to stockpile {:

 

[Raindance]

At the risk of as i am in the UK not actually knowing what i'm talking about but from what i have heard of South African politics wouldn't it be more effective for everyone to put money in the pot and send a couple of stuffed brown envelopes to the right people!!!

The problem is the blackmarket is not using brown envelopes, they show up with stuffed paper bags. We can not match that.

Regards

 

[stevie g]

All fun and games until the rubber bullets come out.

 

[JurgensSt]

Let me put it bluntly

This idea is like pissing against the wind.

The ban on selling cigarettes and normal vape liquid will only end when the loans made by some people in the government to pay for their presidential campaigns are paid off.

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[blujeenz]

Let me put it bluntly

This idea is like pissing against the wind.

The ban on selling cigarettes and normal vape liquid will only end when the loans made by some people in the government to pay for their presidential campaigns are paid off.

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We saw how effective the 15000 vape petition was for unbanning nicotine.

 

[alex1501]

The only thing that could stop the ban would be a complete boycott of the illicit market.
No more than 10-15 days and the reasons for the ban would magically disappear.
However, I believe smokers will continue giving their money regardless of the price and our "benevolent leaders" will carry on squeezing them, even when the ban is finally lifted.

 

[blujeenz]

The only thing that could stop the ban would be a complete boycott of the illicit market.
No more than 10-15 days and the reasons for the ban would magically disappear.
However, I believe smokers will continue giving their money regardless of the price and our "benevolent leaders" will carry on squeezing them, even when the ban is finally lifted.

We're going to get squeezed even more down the line.
Government has taken a R100 billion Covid19 loan, with an option of R100 billion more, that has to be repaid.
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/c...inesses-up-to-r300-million-in-turnover-2020-4

My guess is increased sin tax, more fuel tax and VAT hike to 16%.
They'll probably leave personal tax alone for a year or 2.

 

[Timwis]

We're going to get squeezed even more down the line.
Government has taken a R100 billion Covid19 loan, with an option of R100 billion more, that has to be repaid.
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/c...inesses-up-to-r300-million-in-turnover-2020-4

My guess is increased sin tax, more fuel tax and VAT hike to 16%.
They'll probably leave personal tax alone for a year or 2.

16% VAT in UK would be a VAT slashing, we pay 20%!

 

[blujeenz]

16% VAT in UK would be a VAT slashing, we pay 20%!

You have my sympathies.
However if you own shoes and wear them, feel free to come to Cape Town.

 

[Dela Rey Steyn]

You have my sympathies.
However if you own shoes and wear them, feel free to come to Cape Town.

Why always the wara-wara about shoes? Do I detect some shoecism in your posts? Don't come here with your anti-plakkie rhetoric, you bloody agent!!!

 

[Timwis]

You have my sympathies.
However if you own shoes and wear them, feel free to come to Cape Town.

Not a bad swimmer but probably will be exhausted and need rescuing about a mile out from Cornwall, a little shy of Cape Town!