Steeping for noobs

[rogue zombie]

I'm a little confused about this subject, and not really getting the answers from YouTube and Google.

If someone could just give a little input, I would appreciate it:

1.) How do you know when you open a bottle that it needs to be "steeped"
2.) And basic steeping is closing it up and leaving it in the dark, right?
3.) How do you know when it's good?

 

[rvdwesth]

Good question, I would also like to know how this works.

 

[MarkK]

Basically you will taste that the flavours are not spot on or they don't blend together nicely yet.

The way that I steep my bottles is by keeping them in a pocket close to my body so they get gentle heat and shaking while im working and moving.

Then when ever I get a chance, usually in the evenings when I get home and have a vape session, I will open the bottle, remove the dripper top(comes out easily) then I squeeze the air out of the bottles and allow them to stand for like an hour.

After an hour squeeze out the air again and close them up, ready for another days travelling in my pocket.

The process of steeping can take a week or 2 weeks for everything to blend together nicely. You will be able or should be able to taste an improvement in the flavours.

If after steeping the juice is not improving then you can decide to never buy from that vendor again



JUST A NOTE OF WARNING:
Make sure your bottles don't leak before carrying them with you in your pocket!!
What an oily, smelly mess that can be!

 

[Silver]

Something I have never tried but would like to know if someone else has:

What's the difference if you just put the bottle you bought (unopened) into a dark cupboard for 2 weeks

versus

Doing the breathing and shaking thing (i.e. opening the bottle to let the air out and squeezing the bottle slightly - then closing and giving it a good shake). I.e. letting it breathe occasionally and shake occasionally.

Is there any difference other than the speed at which it will steep?
Is the final product (i.e. the taste) any better with the shaking and breathing?

 

[Yiannaki]

I'm a little confused about this subject, and not really getting the answers from YouTube and Google.

If someone could just give a little input, I would appreciate it:

1.) How do you know when you open a bottle that it needs to be "steeped"
2.) And basic steeping is closing it up and leaving it in the dark, right?
3.) How do you know when it's good?

@r0gue z0mbie

1) It's mostly the desert style juices, tobaccos and complex juices that need steeping. Some taste good out the mailbox and simply get better over time as flavours settle. Others can be horrible out of the mailbox and need that time to sit and settle before you can enjoy them. Any fruity flavours don't require any sort of steep and are perfect to vape straight out of the mailbox.

2) That's correct. Lock it up in the darkest of darkest places and let it sit. I generally check up on it every second or third day. shake it up, open the lid for 5 minutes and back in it goes.

3) There's no real indicator to tell when it will be perfect for you but i think colour is a fairly good way to gauge. Juices tend to become darker with steeping. I.E when i first bought a bottle of elvis's breakfast it was a pale yellow and after about 2 months it was quiet a dark yellow.

Some e liquid manufacturers will also inform you on their site if there is a minimum steeping time required for a liquid.


Always taste a juice when you get it, if you're not crazy about it, throw it into the dark, come back to it and see how the flavour has changed.

 

[Marzuq]

@r0gue z0mbie

1) It's mostly the desert style juices, tobaccos and complex juices that need steeping. Some taste good out the mailbox and simply get better over time as flavours settle. Others can be horrible out of the mailbox and need that time to sit and settle before you can enjoy them. Any fruity flavours don't require any sort of steep and are perfect to vape straight out of the mailbox.

2) That's correct. Lock it up in the darkest of darkest places and let it sit. I generally check up on it every second or third day. shake it up, open the lid for 5 minutes and back in it goes.

3) There's no real indicator to tell when it will be perfect for you but i think colour is a fairly good way to gauge. Juices tend to become darker with steeping. I.E when i first bought a bottle of elvis's breakfast it was a pale yellow and after about 2 months it was quiet a dark yellow.

Some e liquid manufacturers will also inform you on their site if there is a minimum steeping time required for a liquid.


Always taste a juice when you get it, if you're not crazy about it, throw it into the dark, come back to it and see how the flavour has changed.

what about opening the bottle and removing the nipple. then place the bottle in a boiling cup of water till it cools. then store in a dark place while open allowing for breathing?

will this help speed up steeping?
will it affect the end result negatively?
will the heat factor change the nic concentration?

 

[Nooby]

CVS(Sharief) and myself steep juices with a desk or room lamp. We have not noticed and difference in nic or taste drop. Heat does help, but not a good idea to heat it up to fast I would suggest. Slow and steady is the way... Please be advised, this is my experience or opinion

By the way, heat does speed up the steeping process significantly quicker, but then again, its not everyone's cup of tea...

 

[Gazzacpt]

what about opening the bottle and removing the nipple. then place the bottle in a boiling cup of water till it cools. then store in a dark place while open allowing for breathing?

will this help speed up steeping?
will it affect the end result negatively?
will the heat factor change the nic concentration?

Warm tap water is best. Heat causes nicotine to degrade so I try keep under 40°C. You shouldn't be using boiling water.

 

[Marzuq]

wh

CVS(Sharief) and myself steep juices with a desk or room lamp. We have not noticed and difference in nic or taste drop. Heat does help, but not a good idea to heat it up to fast I would suggest. Slow and steady is the way... Please be advised, this is my experience or opinion

CVS(Sharief) and myself steep juices with a desk or room lamp. We have not noticed and difference in nic or taste drop. Heat does help, but not a good idea to heat it up to fast I would suggest. Slow and steady is the way... Please be advised, this is my experience or opinion

please explain what you mean by 'steep juices with a desk lamp'
whats the process exactly?
jst to settle my curiosity

 

[Yiannaki]

what about opening the bottle and removing the nipple. then place the bottle in a boiling cup of water till it cools. then store in a dark place while open allowing for breathing?

will this help speed up steeping?
will it affect the end result negatively?
will the heat factor change the nic concentration?

To be honest i have no clue bud. Sorry. I havent tried any methods of speeding up the process.

One thing i know is to not let it "breathe" for more than a few hours or the flavour will start to go.

 

[Nooby]

wh

please explain what you mean by 'steep juices with a desk lamp'
whats the process exactly?
jst to settle my curiosity

The lamp gives off heat, keeping it at different distances will give you different degrees of heat. I will let it lie for about 5 - 10 mins or so (heat dependent of course), then pick up, shake and air, then repeat about 4 or 5 times. I did this with Elvis's breakfast as well, the juice was a shade or 2 darker the next day. Once again, please be advised that this is my experience.

 

[Nooby]

To be honest i have no clue bud. Sorry. I havent tried any methods of speeding up the process.

One thing i know is to not let it "breathe" for more than a few hours or the flavour will start to go.

I agree, try not to let your bottle remain open for to long. Just think it as a bottle of cooldrink. Over time, nicotine and/or flavor starts to escape. This is not 100% factual, but just my thoughts..

 

[Marzuq]

The lamp gives off heat, keeping it at different distances will give you different degrees of heat. I will let it lie for about 5 - 10 mins or so (heat dependent of course), then pick up, shake and air, then repeat about 4 or 5 times. I did this with Elvis's breakfast as well, the juice was a shade or 2 darker the next day. Once again, please be advised that this is my experience.

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this is interesting. i will most certainly give it a shot. i also have some elvis breakfast that require some steeping... at my own risk of course

 

[rogue zombie]

Ya I think it was a RipTrippers video that I saw where the guy said don't let them breathe for long.

 

[Marzuq]

Ya I think it was a RipTrippers video that I saw where the guy said don't let them breathe for long.

will most certainly be looking that video up thanks

 

[rogue zombie]

will most certainly be looking that video up thanks

I watched it on a friends laptop a few weeks ago, so I can't save you time by looking up my "view history"
But I was looking for steeping, so look that up.

 

[Marzuq]

I watched it on a friends laptop a few weeks ago, so I can't save you time by looking up my "view history"
But I was looking for steeping, so look that up.

ill check from my fone when im on wifi at home later. then possibly put the link up if i find it.
thanks

 

[WHeunis]

In addition to lamp, pocket, or cup of hot tap water used as a heat-source for steeping...

You can also let your bottle of juice sit on top of your DSL Router.
It gets nice and warm up there, but never HOT.

So you can just leave it sitting there for days and days - but do remember to shake it a little bit every now and then.

By far my favorite heat-steep method for the time being.

 

[Gazzacpt]

Also ejuice breaks down in sun light so don't leave it in direct sun light for an extended period of time like a windowsill.

 

[johan]

Just my observations over the past couple of months re steeped vs. unsteeped juice:

* unsteeped juice is quite harsh on my throat (like drinking warm undiluted Oros), and after proper steeping tones down to a smoothness without compromising the flavour or throat hit.
* properly steeped juices are darker in colour than fresh unsteeped juices (except juices like menthol that stays light in color).
* steeping juice at temperature >60°C oxidises the nic content and normally tastes k@k or at least looses some nic with a very low throat hit and zero kick.
* well steeped juice actually intensifies the intended flavour/s.

 

[Yiannaki]

To me, e juice is like fine wine. There's no substitute for good ol' time !

 

[Reonat]

Just my observations over the past couple of months re steeped vs. unsteeped juice:

* unsteeped juice is quite harsh on my throat (like drinking warm undiluted Oros), and after proper steeping tones down to a smoothness without compromising the flavour or throat hit.
* properly steeped juices are darker in colour than fresh unsteeped juices (except juices like menthol that stays light in color).
* steeping juice at temperature >60°C oxidises the nic content and normally tastes k@k or at least looses some nic with a very low throat hit and zero kick.
* well steeped juice actually intensifies the intended flavour/s.

Ahhhh you hit the nail on the head - the Oros part. I have been trying to figure out how to explain that to somebody

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[Paulie]

how to know if juice needs to steep:

1)smell it if it smells horrible it probably needs to steep!
2)taste it if it taste horrible it probably needs to steep!
3) after you have left it for +- 1 month start at number 1 again if it still isnt great sell it to a friend or give it away to your foe

 

[zadiac]

When I mix a juice or even when I get new juices, I use the quick steep method about 5 or 8 times.

Put in hot water for 15mins, take out, air, shake for 30 seconds and put back in hot water. Repeat another 4 or 7 times and my juices always come out wonderful.

 

[rogue zombie]

When I mix a juice or even when I get new juices, I use the quick steep method about 5 or 8 times.

Put in hot water for 15mins, take out, air, shake for 30 seconds and put back in hot water. Repeat another 4 or 7 times and my juices always come out wonderful.

That seems quick and simple enough.
Thank you I'll give it a bash.


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