The Gloves Are Off!!!!!!!!

[Timwis]

Vapefly are not happy at all with Voopoo and i think there is someone within their organisation leaking information to other manufacturers especially as the new SMRT coil from Wotofo is a blatant rip off of the rebuildable coil Vapefly developed for the Optima!

 

[Adephi]

The irony of two Chinese companies accusing each other of copying.

 

[Timwis]

The irony of two Chinese companies accusing each other of copying.

It is funny i know mate and i think this will really brew up from what is coming from Vapefly, could get entertaining!!!!!

 

[Munro31]

Wahaha, black pots and kettles screaming names at each other!!!

 

[Timwis]

Wahaha, black pots and kettles screaming names at each other!!!

It just seems Voopoo is the Blackest pot lol, from hearing a bit more gossip being a reviewer Voopoo seem to be despised by all other manufacturers and yes i agree the all stealing ideas has a touch of irony but in any prisons there will always be the prisoners that are considered low life by the rest and Voopoo seem to be that inmate!

 

[DarthBranMuffin]

Most certainly Vapefly and Voopoo will settle this behind the scene and this whole "taking legal actions to safeguard" does not mean that Vapefly is taking Voopoo to court, they might just up their game on patents as they don't have much of a foot to stand on by going on the looks of the two coil types. The Fact that Voopoo is most likely using a different supplier on metal type and that the shape of the coil's structure is different does not mean it is a patent infringement.

And there will always be the case of one copying the other in some form or way, its a wonder the makers of clones does not get called out on a daily basis, only when the big boys are challenged do they throw some publicity out there to try and damage another companies reputation (and thus sales). Any advertising is good advertising (unless you advertise scuba gear in the middle of the Sahara, that will just be torture).

The short term outcome:
Thousands of vapers are going to stop using Voopoo products and not necessarily use Vapefly as it might be more expensive than their Voopoo products they just binned. Voopoo looses money, Vapefly does not gain money, Voopoo puts their prices up on existing gear where they still have a market and have to drop prices on gear they have an excess off.

The long term outcome:
Voopoo now goes into a couple of months of silence and we dont see anything coming out of their workshops. A year down the line Voopoo brings out another awesome device and coil and range that shakes the market up at affordable prices and they make a killing (again) on their sales. By that time the Vapefly vs Voopoo Coil fight is forgotten, Vapefly gained nothing as they did not adjust the prices in favor of the consumers after driving Voopoo into darkness and Voopoo is still alive.

Does copying something make it right? No it does not.

Does this fight between Vapefly and Voopoo really affect the daily life of vapers as consumers? No it does not.

Make your own decision on whether you want to use Vapefly or Voopoo products based on performance (for you), price, availability of devices and coils (and spares). Both companies have great products and everyone has their own taste and preferences on what they use. A little bit of competition is what drives the market and innovation forward, if Vapefly has no competition left they will have no market left either as you cannot be alone and be successful in business.

 

[Timwis]

Most certainly Vapefly and Voopoo will settle this behind the scene and this whole "taking legal actions to safeguard" does not mean that Vapefly is taking Voopoo to court, they might just up their game on patents as they don't have much of a foot to stand on by going on the looks of the two coil types. The Fact that Voopoo is most likely using a different supplier on metal type and that the shape of the coil's structure is different does not mean it is a patent infringement.

And there will always be the case of one copying the other in some form or way, its a wonder the makers of clones does not get called out on a daily basis, only when the big boys are challenged do they throw some publicity out there to try and damage another companies reputation (and thus sales). Any advertising is good advertising (unless you advertise scuba gear in the middle of the Sahara, that will just be torture).

The short term outcome:
Thousands of vapers are going to stop using Voopoo products and not necessarily use Vapefly as it might be more expensive than their Voopoo products they just binned. Voopoo looses money, Vapefly does not gain money, Voopoo puts their prices up on existing gear where they still have a market and have to drop prices on gear they have an excess off.

The long term outcome:
Voopoo now goes into a couple of months of silence and we dont see anything coming out of their workshops. A year down the line Voopoo brings out another awesome device and coil and range that shakes the market up at affordable prices and they make a killing (again) on their sales. By that time the Vapefly vs Voopoo Coil fight is forgotten, Vapefly gained nothing as they did not adjust the prices in favor of the consumers after driving Voopoo into darkness and Voopoo is still alive.

Does copying something make it right? No it does not.

Does this fight between Vapefly and Voopoo really affect the daily life of vapers as consumers? No it does not.

Make your own decision on whether you want to use Vapefly or Voopoo products based on performance (for you), price, availability of devices and coils (and spares). Both companies have great products and everyone has their own taste and preferences on what they use. A little bit of competition is what drives the market and innovation forward, if Vapefly has no competition left they will have no market left either as you cannot be alone and be successful in business.

Absolutely the TPP Tank is awesome and if this hadn't been published by Vapefly i would be none the wiser unlike the Wotofo SMRT coil which not just in idea but also design can be no accident! The patent apparently is the use of three rather than two pins, whether that was patented and has been infringed on i really don't know i am just a messenger sharing it with the forum! But Vapefly do seem very pissed off when stealing ideas goes on all the time so something seems to be beyond the norm on this occasion! As for clones that's a different topic as most clones don't claim to be original but are quite open about their sticky fingers!!!

 

[DarthBranMuffin]

Absolutely the TPP Tank is awesome and if this hadn't been published by Vapefly i would be none the wiser unlike the Wotofo SMRT coil which not just in idea but also design can be no accident! The patent apparently is the use of three rather than two pins, whether that was patented and has been infringed on i really don't know i am just a messenger sharing it with the forum! But Vapefly do seem very pissed off when stealing ideas goes on all the time so something seems to be beyond the norm on this occasion! As for clones that's a different topic as most clones don't claim to be original but are quite open about their sticky fingers!!!

And we all love a little bit of drama once in a while, it makes it interesting. It's almost as much fun as watching a thread being derailed on this forum and trying to get it back on track again...

 

[Timwis]

And we all love a little bit of drama once in a while, it makes it interesting. It's almost as much fun as watching a thread being derailed on this forum and trying to get it back on track again...

Now you know that never happens!

 

[alex1501]

Now you know that never happens!

Never ever

 

[CashKat88]

Voopoo are always in hot water, they love causing commotion, I remember a few years ago it was the problem with vandy vape where they broke their agreement to supply them with the gene chip for their Squonker and left them high and dry then there was the issue were they were accused of making a Vape mod that entice children, the fidget spinner vape and also using a YouTuber to promote them that vaped acid or something like that(not in real life but for the video) and that caused a big thing about safety.
VooPoo Love drama

 

[zadiac]

It's all bullshit anyway. Publicity.

 

[CashKat88]

It's all bullshit anyway. Publicity.

I agree but during this time where America are looking for any tiny little reason to ban vaping as a whole and have the rest of the world follow, Voopoo should learn to behave, their drama brings negative attention(especially the fidget spinner and YouTube thing) and the sheeple will be there to support anything anybody tells them about how bad vaping is.
Extremely irritating

 

[CMMACKEM]

Has a famous Youtuber wet his pants yet?

 

[Munro31]

Has a famous Youtuber wet his pants yet?

Probably slipping around in it right now

 

[Timwis]

Has a famous Youtuber wet his pants yet?

You could post a video of you farting and get multiple times the amount of views than a vape reviewer, vape reviewers are not famous! Apart from the few people that watch a particular reviewer nobody either knows or cares who they are! My wife watches some real crap on Youtube and all of it gets views that laugh at the numbers vape reviewers get yet these people don't come across with an ego or think they are famous attitude that a lot of vape reviewers do! It's all about them, i am talking about the American and sadly one Scottish reviewer not those that avoid drama and make it about the product but none come close to the definition of famous, just wannabe's!

 

[Resistance]

I think me and @Dela Rey Steyn created the pod mod. Boeta D we should get a lawyer and join the action!

 

[Timwis]

I think me and @Dela Rey Steyn created the pod mod. Boeta D we should get a lawyer and join the action!

The laugh is the first pod mod was surprisingly by Smok, the RPM 40 which within minutes it seemed yes good old Voopoo copied the idea with the Vinci!

 

[fbb1964]

My 2 cents on this. Voopoo, geekvape, smoktech, vaporesso and eleaf have become like Nike, Reebok, Adidas etc.. Quick to copy other innovations and mostly just the same just small different flavours and colours. They dominate the market with volume not necessarily real innovation and superior quality. Don't hold your breath for any major new innovation and ground breaking new technology swing. I'm now much more supportive and enjoy the smaller brands like rincoe, think vape, oxva, Vapor Storm etc.. There are probably many more innovative and competitive smaller brands I don't even know about or haven't tried any product yet. And will definitely rather support in future.

 

[Dela Rey Steyn]

The laugh is the first pod mod was surprisingly by Smok, the RPM 40 which within minutes it seemed yes good old Voopoo copied the idea with the Vinci!

Actually @Resistance and I both built mods/adaptors that used Twisp cue pods on regular mods. So Smok definitely stole it from us. Well, more from @Resistance , Even me I only modified and tweaked on his original Idea. We need good legal representation

 

[Dela Rey Steyn]

"Innovation" in 2020:

basically all the same idea, just aesthetically different. These are just some, there are tons of different brands with similar devices.

 

[Timwis]

"Innovation" in 2020:

basically all the same idea, just aesthetically different. These are just some, there are tons of different brands with similar devices.

Yep and i have the Drag 3 which apart from having a normal 510 rather than pod bay is basically identical to the Drag Max!

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

Actually @Resistance and I both built mods/adaptors that used Twisp cue pods on regular mods. So Smok definitely stole it from us. Well, more from @Resistance , Even me I only modified and tweaked on his original Idea. We need good legal representation

Interestingly enough you won't be able to claim royalties, nor could you register and or claim that patent, however you would be able to claim prior art, (assuming you can prove it), which would negate SMOKs patent, (if they have one?), meaning no one wins, least of all you guys, as you'd end up with a massive legal bill ... been there, done that

 

[Resistance]

The laugh is the first pod mod was surprisingly by Smok, the RPM 40 which within minutes it seemed yes good old Voopoo copied the idea with the Vinci!

I don't know how to emoji that. But give me a date and I'll verify our dates.

 

[Resistance]

My 2 cents on this. Voopoo, geekvape, smoktech, vaporesso and eleaf have become like Nike, Reebok, Adidas etc.. Quick to copy other innovations and mostly just the same just small different flavours and colours. They dominate the market with volume not necessarily real innovation and superior quality. Don't hold your breath for any major new innovation and ground breaking new technology swing. I'm now much more supportive and enjoy the smaller brands like rincoe, think vape, oxva, Vapor Storm etc.. There are probably many more innovative and competitive smaller brands I don't even know about or haven't tried any product yet. And will definitely rather support in future.

As well as cars. No imagination needed . All look the same and some parts are interchangeable between brands.
You used to be able to tell them apart. Now it's like black car, red car