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bwbwings

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Hiya fellow forumites,

I desperately need your help. My wife and I started vaping about 4 months ago but we are still trying to get off the stinkies.

I have spent tons of time trying to find a good juice and good setup but everything seems "sub par" to me. After trying various peoples vapes I realise the problem is with my gear and not the liquids I have been trying.

Everyone else's vapes are awesome, great flavour, great hit, etc.

So I have realised that whilst the ego twists and tiny cleromisers were great to start the journey they are definitely not enough for us to get off the stinkies.

I am looking to upgrade (I cannot afford a REO :'( ) and am looking for some advice on what is the next level.

So far I have looked at the SVD (Heard about the miss fires) and the Hana but read that the chipset can be fried.

I have bounced backwards and forwards and cannot decide on what device is going to give that awesome vape and push us over the edge to get off the stinkies.

Please help me with any advice you can offer.
 
I must say I have had no problems with my SVD and recently moved to a hana mod and also had no problems ... Both are great devices ! I just don't use it my SVD anymore that's why I have decided to sell it . bearing I'm mind that both are brilliant devices ! It just depends on the look you're going for and which device suites your needs , from the sounds of it , it sounds like the SVD would do the job for you :)
 
Hey Tyron,

Thanks for the feedback, I have seriously considered the SVD, have you ever tried it with the Kayfun?
 
I moved from the ego batteries to an svd, i can only recommend it as the next step. It really is very good.

I'm currently loving mechs and rba's full time now and that's why i put my svd up for sale (I'm not trying to sell it to you :) )but for me, the next logical step after an ego was the svd. I've never had the misfire issue you speak of though. Controlling the wattage you vape your juices at really opens up flavour so much more, all those complex juices taste different at higher wattage.

If you into the box mods then the Cana is a good option as well.

If you still struggling with the analogs then maybe try a higher nic juice. I started on 18mg and worked my way down to 9mg, I've been vaping for about 1.5 years now

Sent from my S4 LTE using my finger
 
Yes that was my first set up ! I built a 0.8 ohm coil and vapes like a champ on the svd ! Check the classifieds I'm selling mine with a dripper if you're interested !
 
No matter what you get you're definitely heading in the right direction bud ... Kayfun and SVD is not a bad choice :)
 
Hey Dr Evil,

Thanks for the info. :)

Can you shed light on the wattage debate Hana (30w)? Do you know what watts the SVD gets?

What Mech/RBA are you using?
 
My recommendation would be:
  1. An electronic mod that can give you at least 15 W of power. With such a mod you will be able to use commercial tanks and, should you so desire, go the rebuildable route as well. Biggest problem with the Cana type of mod is that it cannot step down voltage, so you might have problems driving certain commercial tanks. Here you have a wide choice - SVD, Vamo, iMode 15 (very reasonable price at eciggies.co.za), etc. If you want a bit more power the Sigelei 20W has proven itself.
  2. The atomizer of course plays the biggest part in determining how good your vape is. Here, as far as commercial clearomizers go, for sure the Mini Aspire Nautilus (mAN).
Hope this helps. Shout if you have any questions.
 
Hey Andre,

Thanks for the info, I keep hearing higher watts is better but then cannot step down.

I see there is also a Sigelei 30W, does this have step down voltage?

:D
 
My recommendation would be:
  1. An electronic mod that can give you at least 15 W of power. With such a mod you will be able to use commercial tanks and, should you so desire, go the rebuildable route as well. Biggest problem with the Cana type of mod is that it cannot step down voltage, so you might have problems driving certain commercial tanks. Here you have a wide choice - SVD, Vamo, iMode 15 (very reasonable price at eciggies.co.za), etc. If you want a bit more power the Sigelei 20W has proven itself.
  2. The atomizer of course plays the biggest part in determining how good your vape is. Here, as far as commercial clearomizers go, for sure the Mini Aspire Nautilus (mAN).
Hope this helps. Shout if you have any questions.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Everything he said! ;-)
 
Hiya fellow forumites,

I desperately need your help. My wife and I started vaping about 4 months ago but we are still trying to get off the stinkies.

I have spent tons of time trying to find a good juice and good setup but everything seems "sub par" to me. After trying various peoples vapes I realise the problem is with my gear and not the liquids I have been trying.

Everyone else's vapes are awesome, great flavour, great hit, etc.

So I have realised that whilst the ego twists and tiny cleromisers were great to start the journey they are definitely not enough for us to get off the stinkies.

I am looking to upgrade (I cannot afford a REO :'( ) and am looking for some advice on what is the next level.

So far I have looked at the SVD (Heard about the miss fires) and the Hana but read that the chipset can be fried.

I have bounced backwards and forwards and cannot decide on what device is going to give that awesome vape and push us over the edge to get off the stinkies.

Please help me with any advice you can offer.
Hey @bwbwings

Welcome to the forum. I had a Vamo V5 and was very happy with her. Both of your options should work for you. You can also look at a Nautilus (with the new bottom vertical coils) for a tank option if you would rather have a tank with commercially available coils.
 
Hey Baksteen,

Thanks for the help. With everything everyone is saying is definitely looks like you get more from commercial tanks using a more powerful device.

I am seriously looking at something that has enough power to accommodate upgrades in the future so that it will last as long as possible before upgrading.

What are you using now?
 
My recommendation would be:
  1. An electronic mod that can give you at least 15 W of power. With such a mod you will be able to use commercial tanks and, should you so desire, go the rebuildable route as well. Biggest problem with the Cana type of mod is that it cannot step down voltage, so you might have problems driving certain commercial tanks. Here you have a wide choice - SVD, Vamo, iMode 15 (very reasonable price at eciggies.co.za), etc. If you want a bit more power the Sigelei 20W has proven itself.
  2. The atomizer of course plays the biggest part in determining how good your vape is. Here, as far as commercial clearomizers go, for sure the Mini Aspire Nautilus (mAN).
Hope this helps. Shout if you have any questions.
Some very good advice there. As always @Andre delivers.
 
I am seriously looking at something that has enough power to accommodate upgrades in the future so that it will last as long as possible before upgrading.

Then a Sigelei 30W with a Nautilus Mini is the way forward!
 
Hey Rob,

This is the direction I am leaning in.


Are there any pro's/con's you can tell me regarding Sigelei 30W and Nautilus?
 
Hey Baksteen,

Thanks for the help. With everything everyone is saying is definitely looks like you get more from commercial tanks using a more powerful device.

I am seriously looking at something that has enough power to accommodate upgrades in the future so that it will last as long as possible before upgrading.

What are you using now?
Currently using a eVic Supreme. She is a 30W electronic mod. Useng her with a Nautilus, Fogger V4 and mini Protank 3. (Depends on what juice I am in the mood for) if you have the cash to spend I would definitely recommend that you get the higher power mods. Box or tube, that is up to you. Also the mini Aspire Nautilus seems to be a good hit.
 
Hey Rob,

This is the direction I am leaning in.

Are there any pro's/con's you can tell me regarding Sigelei 30W and Nautilus?


Yes.... the cons are that the tank only holds a small amount of juice and if you go out you will have to take a bottle of spare juice with you. Also it's a commercial coil and there have been tendencies for these to be duds right out of the package sometimes. The new coils for the Mini seems to be a lot better but I have seen reports of some duds so just make sure you are buying originals and not clones. I will have my replacement Nautilus Mini's (two of my recent converts stole the two I had before I could even test them) on Monday and will look see how the smaller tank looks on the Sigelei.

Pro's. I love my Sigelei 20W and it drives my Authentic Russian 91% and looks a perfect set up... so when you go to rebuildables (and you will) the Sigelei will be more than happy to get a Kayfun or Russian on it. It has a very easy menu system and that was important to me after having fought with the SVD which I dislike a lot!
 
Yes.... the cons are that the tank only holds a small amount of juice and if you go out you will have to take a bottle of spare juice with you. Also it's a commercial coil and there have been tendencies for these to be duds right out of the package sometimes. The new coils for the Mini seems to be a lot better but I have seen reports of some duds so just make sure you are buying originals and not clones. I will have my replacement Nautilus Mini's (two of my recent converts stole the two I had before I could even test them) on Monday and will look see how the smaller tank looks on the Sigelei.

Pro's. I love my Sigelei 20W and it drives my Authentic Russian 91% and looks a perfect set up... so when you go to rebuildables (and you will) the Sigelei will be more than happy to get a Kayfun or Russian on it. It has a very easy menu system and that was important to me after having fought with the SVD which I dislike a lot!
As Rob says, you will go to rebuildables.
 
Hey Andre,

Thanks for the info, I keep hearing higher watts is better but then cannot step down.

I see there is also a Sigelei 30W, does this have step down voltage?

:D
Am not sure, but now that you ask about it I think neither the Sigelei 20 W, nor the Sigelei 30 W has step down voltage. Am not sure what their minimum output voltage is. The Cana 30W is 4.0V and the IPV 50W looks like 3.7V. This is not a problem if you have around 1.8 ohm coils, but as you go lower it becomes problematic. Wonder if the Evic does not have step down voltage.

As you can clearly deduce, I am not at all sure. Maybe do some Googling on this.
 
In my limited knowledge I will try and explain my own experience.
The old way of doing things were an electronic mod, with a commercial tank usually between 1.8 and 2.8 ohm. on a SVD, or Itaste VV, or any Variable wattage device you could pretty much only use it on around 8Watts, above that and the coil tended to give a burnt taste. You could still safely play between 5.5 watts and 8.5 watts for different "Strength" though, depending on your vape day or even juice.
The new way of doing things is to give you even more "Options" you now get like for instance the Nautilus, a 1.6 ohm coil, but it is Dual coil, and you can safely (and quite enjoyably) vape at around 11Watts (that's where I enjoy it anyway), however the new Nichce really is subOhm, so you can get/create sub Ohm coils and vape all the way up to 30 watts. When you do though be sure to use lower nic juice, as it packs a punch. It provides endless clouds for our own amusement and the taste of the juice comes out beautifully.

The new svd Supports sub ohm, but the older ones does not. on the old evics you would get a atomizer short error sub ohm, but the new ones allow it. Reo, and various DNA 30w or 20w is great for subohm, and RBA's.

To be honest, I have been vaping for just over a year, and also started with a evod kit. I quickly moved over to a svd, and evic after that, I recently started with Mech mods and an RSST. My next mech mod might be the hammer, or I might go for a 30w device. either way you can vape sub ohm, and use rebuildables. But for the most part during the day, I use a SVD with a nautilus coil and a segeli zmax v5 with a evod head still (check the link on the forum "The all mighty evod".

I know there are a plethora of choices available to you, My suggestion is start with something that is low maintenance but better than a starter kit, then once you are settled and stinkie free, start playin gwith the more advanced things, as you dont want to grab a stinkie when your device is not working.
 
I see there is also a Sigelei 30W, does this have step down voltage?

You need to Google for the info info but I can tell you the 20W version works it all out... you set the wattage and it has a full go at matching the wattage when you hit the fire button but if it can't produce the wattage set in the menu it will fire at a wattage it's happiest with. That's the laymans terms... for technical terms to refer to Google. ;-)
 
Wow, such awesome advice.

I would like to dip my toes into RBA, can any advise on the Kayfun for getting rebuildable experience?

From everything I have heard the 30w seems the way to go for something that will give enough power in the long term whilst offering a great vaping experience.

I am definitely leaning towards the Sigelei and would love to hear everyone's experience with it or other 30w devices?
 
Get HANA MODZ.
i have not made coils yet. i use EVOD BCC. i like them. i like them more each day. They're easy to refill and they don't give me any hassles. (Compared to iclear16s, Aerotank Mega, iclear X.I)
i got an innokin MVP, after the HANA because it took 7 weeks to get to me...it's ok, it's good, the battery lasts more than a day, but not as long as the 18650 battery in the HANA...but i can set both of them to 9W, same EVOD BCC, same juice, straight swop, and it just works better on the HANA - better vapour. So now i only use the MVP when the HANA battery needs to be charged - and when my 2 VTC5 batteries arrive,...i dunno, then i won't need to use the MVP. unless the HANA MODZ conks.
Never mind the Volt story with the HANA (iow, the DNA 30 clone). It doesn't affect me and there're thousands of people happily using them. Best bang for the buck. Covers that are machined to fit properly, good switches.................the Cloupor HANA clone. although now i'd get a fasttech mini clone as a backup.
 
You need to Google for the info info but I can tell you the 20W version works it all out... you set the wattage and it has a full go at matching the wattage when you hit the fire button but if it can't produce the wattage set in the menu it will fire at a wattage it's happiest with. That's the laymans terms... for technical terms to refer to Google. ;-)

Hey Rob, that is awesome, I did not know that it could do that, this already makes me comfortable that I can't screw it up :p
 
I would like to dip my toes into RBA, can any advise on the Kayfun for getting rebuildable experience?

Please try and get an original if you can because so many of the clones are simply a load of crap and will leak and give you such a bad experience you will never want to go the rebuildable route again... I speak from experience here because I have been there, done that and got the t-shirt!

Then I consulted the experts and they told me to get a Russian 91% original which I did... best purchase ever! It has taken me on the rebuildables route and despite the fact that I use REO's 99,7% of the time I still have my Sigelei 20W and Russian 91% and doubt I will ever sell them because they have a special place in my heart and they are still both used!
 
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