After reading one of the Reddit threads in @Alex 's post (some good laughs there), I wondered how many here are concerned about what goes into juices. This not from a flavour point of view, more about possible health risks.
I was startled when I first read about Diacetyl and the resulting incurable disease caused by inhaling it. More concerning was the fact that, while the use of Diacetyl is (or is about to be) restricted by legislation in the US, the EU still regards it as 'safe for use' as a food flavouring. The ruling does not cover vaping, as legislation in this regard is still in its infancy. It is therefore quite possible that e-juice made in the EU may still legally contain Diacetyl even though the dangers of inhaling it are known.
As an alternative to Diacetyl, Acetoin is currently been used to produce a butter flavour, but this can form small amounts of Diacetyl under certain conditions. What exactly these may be is a bit of a mystery, and I have yet to find anything definitive on the possible dangers of inhaling Acetoin-flavoured e-juice.
While the above article relates to more understandible flavour descriptions, I would like to know what other constituents may be in a juice, particularly if they may be considered potentially harmful.
Being a DIY juice-maker I recently started ordering from Valley Vapour, seeing that they have a wide range of available flavours. Of note here is a warning about Acetoin and notification of which flavours contain it. I found this both refreshing and surprising, particularly which flavours are affected. For example, Coconut contains Acetoin, while Kettle Corn does not! Vanilla Custard and White Chocolate are perhaps obvious candidates, but Hazelnut? Sweet Cream does, but Whipped Cream doesn't?
Kudos to @drew for adopting this attitude even though it risks costing him some sales, and I wish more suppliers would do the same. Granted, it may not always be possible to establish what a particular flavour may contain, but it would be nice to see relevant information when it is.
I should make it clear that I am not recommending the avoidance of flavours that use Acetoin, I do not know enough about the subject to provide any advice. I am merely using this as an example of what information I would like juice suppliers to provide - I am more concerned whether a particular flavour is likely to kill me than if it tastes like 'vicks on ecstacy'.
I think most vapers view impending legislation as a possible end to the current freedoms we enjoy, but there are potentail benefits - preventing makers from using flavours that are 'safe to eat' but not 'safe to breath' being an obvious one.
I was startled when I first read about Diacetyl and the resulting incurable disease caused by inhaling it. More concerning was the fact that, while the use of Diacetyl is (or is about to be) restricted by legislation in the US, the EU still regards it as 'safe for use' as a food flavouring. The ruling does not cover vaping, as legislation in this regard is still in its infancy. It is therefore quite possible that e-juice made in the EU may still legally contain Diacetyl even though the dangers of inhaling it are known.
As an alternative to Diacetyl, Acetoin is currently been used to produce a butter flavour, but this can form small amounts of Diacetyl under certain conditions. What exactly these may be is a bit of a mystery, and I have yet to find anything definitive on the possible dangers of inhaling Acetoin-flavoured e-juice.
While the above article relates to more understandible flavour descriptions, I would like to know what other constituents may be in a juice, particularly if they may be considered potentially harmful.
Being a DIY juice-maker I recently started ordering from Valley Vapour, seeing that they have a wide range of available flavours. Of note here is a warning about Acetoin and notification of which flavours contain it. I found this both refreshing and surprising, particularly which flavours are affected. For example, Coconut contains Acetoin, while Kettle Corn does not! Vanilla Custard and White Chocolate are perhaps obvious candidates, but Hazelnut? Sweet Cream does, but Whipped Cream doesn't?
Kudos to @drew for adopting this attitude even though it risks costing him some sales, and I wish more suppliers would do the same. Granted, it may not always be possible to establish what a particular flavour may contain, but it would be nice to see relevant information when it is.
I should make it clear that I am not recommending the avoidance of flavours that use Acetoin, I do not know enough about the subject to provide any advice. I am merely using this as an example of what information I would like juice suppliers to provide - I am more concerned whether a particular flavour is likely to kill me than if it tastes like 'vicks on ecstacy'.
I think most vapers view impending legislation as a possible end to the current freedoms we enjoy, but there are potentail benefits - preventing makers from using flavours that are 'safe to eat' but not 'safe to breath' being an obvious one.
