5 Pawns Castle Long Or Alternative flavour?

ashTZA

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Hi;

I called VapeMob Kenilworth t'day to find out if their new stock has landed;:p (Some has, but it doesn't include 5pwns).

And I was told they are no longer going to stock 5 pwns liquid "due to lack of interest" - (which left me in absolute disbelief) so no new stock coming in... ever;
EDIT: Confirmed as a miscommunication - this may only be true in regards to the possible future of 18mg options.

Anyone know where else we can get; or any vendors that will be reliably stocking 5pwns in 6mg?
(specifically my fav: Castle Long).

I looked up eciggies.co.za but besides being closed for business (again) till the 22nd.
But they only stock 12mg [can live with that if no alternative; but they aren't open anyway.]

I'm an absolute Castle Long addict. a day without it, & I will go into a dementia and indiscriminately kill kittens.

Please think of the kittens.

PS: Or know of any alternatives with a similar flavour profile available locally? Something coconut with a hint of alcohol & vanilla & nut/almond? Or simply a pina colada :)
 
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Lol.. "no interest in Five Pawns"?
I think its a case of no interest in the price they sell it at.

But I'm a big fan of Castlelong, and I haven't found anything like it... sorry.
 
Hang in there @ashTZA. Looks like eciggies 12 mg is going to be your best bet.

I am also scared my Blackbird will be stopped. In which case I I will be very sad. Would have to import or find something else.

VapeKings Piña Colada is nice. I have reviewed it. Not a complex juice but I enjoyed it. Maybe that will get you through till you can get your castle long.
 
Lol.. "no interest in Five Pawns"?
I think its a case of no interest in the price they sell it at.

But I'm a big fan of Castlelong, and I haven't found anything like it... sorry.
I think if it where selling for R250, it would be the only premium import people would be interested in and there won't be any interest in anything else.
 
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Hang in there @ashTZA. Looks like eciggies 12 mg is going to be your best bet.

I am also scared my Blackbird will be stopped. In which case I I will be very sad. Would have to import or find something else.

VapeKings Piña Colada is nice. I have reviewed it. Not a complex juice but I enjoyed it. Maybe that will get you through till you can get your castle long.

Don't jinks it man;
Blackbird is another of my "Must always have a bottle with me" ones. And is the ONLY one my mother; whom I'm desperately trying to get to quit analogues for good; Likes. Every other juice she tries makes her cough; or simply doesn't do it for her.

I'll try VK's pina' out to see what its like.
I must say I really am in-love with castle long; and would be utterly devastated to be without it.

This song pretty much explains it:
Jonny Lang / Double Trouble - There's No One Like You
 
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Don't jinks it man;
Blackbird is another of my "Must always have a bottle with me" ones. And is the ONLY one my mother; whom I'm desperately trying to get to quit analogues for good; Likes. Every other juice she tries makes her cough; or simply doesn't do it for her.

I'll try VK's pina' out to see what its like.
I must say I really am in a long term relationship with castle long; and would be utterly devastated to be without it.

Jonny Lang / Double Trouble - There's No One Like You


I hear you @ashTZA
Loud and clear!

You wont believe the coincidence - my moms favourite tobacco is blackbird too! I get her the 12mg. Bought a few bottles recently. She is hooked on Blackbird and so am I. So as a family we are quite Blackbird dependant ;-) lol. Just hope Witchers Brew doesnt get discontinued. I would have to import it in bulk. At least i know who could go in with me on a big order if that were to happen.
 
I hear you @ashTZA
Loud and clear!

You wont believe the coincidence - my moms favourite tobacco is blackbird too! I get her the 12mg. Bought a few bottles recently. She is hooked on Blackbird and so am I. So as a family we are quite Blackbird dependant ;-) lol. Just hope Witchers Brew doesnt get discontinued. I would have to import it in bulk. At least i know who could go in with me on a big order if that were to happen.
Lol, I already have to import Tark's Matador in bulk. Vapemob's "may again stock in future" has proven to be but talk. They are no longer listed as an importer with the juice maker. If I look at their stock position for Blackbird, am afraid you are in for a surprise. Maybe you should inquire officially.
 
PayPal accepting as well.., nice thank you!

I'm really not buying much imported stuff lately, with such good local stuff popping up, but I like to know I can get more when I want.
 
@ashTZA I know this is a bit of a stretch, but why not give DIY a go...SkyBlue has a wonderful starter kit (on special now) - just choose 2x Pina Colada flavour to go with it (which is a really nice flavour BTW). This will allow you to make 250ml of Pina Colada juice for yourself @ only R360 :eek::D

The flavouring is 10ml per bottle and is best at around 8% per volume...so 2x10ml can make 250ml of juice ;)
DIY is an easy, fun, and incredibly cheap way to get lots of juice :)

You can even try making a Castle Long clone (but you may have to order the flavourings direct from the supplier or try here).

If you need help, there is a really nice startier DIY thread on here :D
 
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PayPal accepting as well.., nice thank you!

I'm really not buying much imported stuff lately, with such good local stuff popping up, but I like to know I can get more when I want.
Same here, but when one gets an imported juice locally, it becomes a real favourite and the local vendor discontinues - leaves one with some hard choices.
 
(multi quote appears broken for me; so just gonna shout out).

@r0gue z0mbie Re: local stuff popping Up - I've vaped a lot of craft vapour over the months; still a great product, I've tried all of their flavours and found some ones I enjoy very much & always keep on hand; Some though made me lurch, but none whispered naughty things in my ear as "forever yours".

Lekker vapours brought the King back for breakfast; but was far to rich for me as an ADV. (and the super sweet smell often got on other peoples nerves; pretty much like Elvis' music does when I play it). Something I like to enjoy; when no-one is watching.

I've order some Voodoo vapes; which I tried a while back at a meet. seems promising; went for the gravestone (citrus) & Bloody Sunday (strawberry milkshake). Waiting for the order. I'm not really a fan of strawberries; definitely not strawberry milkshakes; but something about that juice tickled my fancy.

@free3dom; Legend mate; Thanks for the recipe. The thought has crossed my mind on several occasions; I've been wondering what would be the required flavours for a clone attempt. On that note however, if you've ever tasted my cooking, you'd probably add a disclaimer advising me never to share my creations. I will however give it a shot. (for educational purposes at the very least) who knows I might surprise myself.


@Andre & @r0gue z0mbie re: favourites; consistency; supply - I understand your pain; Over the last few months I've spent thousands on bottles of juice the bottom of which I will never reach; all in the pursuit of finding the holy grail.
When I find something I enjoy; Supply anxiety becomes a real serious issue for me. I'm going away on holiday in a week, and believe it or not; I'm sitting here thinking it will be a complete washout if I don't find an awesome juice to take with me ( & glancing over with a lump in my throat to the half a dropper of CL left I'm saving for that last drip when I get the chills lol).
 
I do not mind at all. www.modnworld.com. Only for Tark's juices. You can email him, Tark Vernada, at modnworld@mail.com. The site accepted my order, but did not give a shipping option. Best is to email Tark with your order. He will then send you a paypal invoice.

Heh' I'm busy dripping some Tark's Maghrib right now myself.
Do you not get issues with customs?
The idea of importing my own supply of juices has weighted on me; but to make it economical (courier fee's wise) would mean spending a quite a bit of dosh on a half a dozen or more bottles at a time; and work has me far too busy, to be able to spare the energy to fight with customs if it did get blocked. (And not sure what % of taxes would apply). I've found it hard to get definite answers in this regard; since SA doesn't have any specific legislation in regards to ecigs/eliquid. besides Nic being a controlled substance; (so it gives me the impression its luck of the draw situation unless you're in the business of importing & have the time / experience / connections to do it right).

What have your experiences been like & with what qty do you think is a safe bet to stay under the radar?
 
Heh' I'm busy dripping some Tark's Maghrib right now myself.
Do you not get issues with customs?
The idea of importing my own supply of juices has weighted on me; but to make it economical (courier fee's wise) would mean spending a quite a bit of dosh on a half a dozen or more bottles at a time; and work has me far too busy, to be able to spare the energy to fight with customs if it did get blocked. (And not sure what % of taxes would apply). I've found it hard to get definite answers in this regard; since SA doesn't have any specific legislation in regards to ecigs/eliquid. besides Nic being a controlled substance; (so it gives me the impression its luck of the draw situation unless you're in the business of importing & have the time / experience / connections to do it right).

What have your experiences been like & with what qty do you think is a safe bet to stay under the radar?
With better local supplies I do not import a lot - only ADVs not available locally, but those I have have all arrived eventually. Customs charges vary. I just smile and pay - no idea what the charges should be and whether they are amount/quantity dependent.
Lol, "supply anxiety" describes it perfectly - I am certainly afflicted.
 
With better local supplies I do not import a lot - only ADVs not available locally, but those I have have all arrived eventually. Customs charges vary. I just smile and pay - no idea what the charges should be and whether they are amount/quantity dependent.
Lol, "supply anxiety" describes it perfectly - I am certainly afflicted.

Looks like I will have to start looking into this as well. Getting harder and harder to find specific juices in specific nic. I have a bottle and a half of Gambit in 18mg sitting in my safe (yes, my safe, that's how much i love and treasure it) and I force myself to only vape a tank a month as the 18mg seems to be harder to find... I generally vape 6mg jooses but gambit does not do it for me lower than 18mg.
 
Another thing with liquid at R350 is that most people will use it more sparingly like on weekends and only in their best gear (except for you two ;)) so it won't be flying of the shelves. The price elasticity hasn't been tested. Dropping the price and reducing margin results in increased sales so the volume makes more overall profit and the vendor needs to find the sweet spot to maximise profit.
 
The price elasticity hasn't been tested. Dropping the price and reducing margin results in increased sales so the volume makes more overall profit and the vendor needs to find the sweet spot to maximise profit.

Ya it's a vicious cycle really. If the price is a little high, it will put some off. The stock doesn't move quickly off the shelve. Retailer is less likely to re-stock.

Me personally, I have a mental block at a certain price point.
 
(multi quote appears broken for me; so just gonna shout out).

@r0gue z0mbie Re: local stuff popping Up - I've vaped a lot of craft vapour over the months; still a great product, I've tried all of their flavours and found some ones I enjoy very much & always keep on hand; Some though made me lurch, but none whispered naughty things in my ear as "forever yours".

Lekker vapours brought the King back for breakfast; but was far to rich for me as an ADV. (and the super sweet smell often got on other peoples nerves; pretty much like Elvis' music does when I play it). Something I like to enjoy; when no-one is watching.

I've order some Voodoo vapes; which I tried a while back at a meet. seems promising; went for the gravestone (citrus) & Bloody Sunday (strawberry milkshake). Waiting for the order. I'm not really a fan of strawberries; definitely not strawberry milkshakes; but something about that juice tickled my fancy.

@free3dom; Legend mate; Thanks for the recipe. The thought has crossed my mind on several occasions; I've been wondering what would be the required flavours for a clone attempt. On that note however, if you've ever tasted my cooking, you'd probably add a disclaimer advising me never to share my creations. I will however give it a shot. (for educational purposes at the very least) who knows I might surprise myself.


@Andre & @r0gue z0mbie re: favourites; consistency; supply - I understand your pain; Over the last few months I've spent thousands on bottles of juice the bottom of which I will never reach; all in the pursuit of finding the holy grail.
When I find something I enjoy; Supply anxiety becomes a real serious issue for me. I'm going away on holiday in a week, and believe it or not; I'm sitting here thinking it will be a complete washout if I don't find an awesome juice to take with me ( & glancing over with a lump in my throat to the half a dropper of CL left I'm saving for that last drip when I get the chills lol).

Loved your post @ashTZA !
Some classic chirps - "but none whispered naughty things in my ear" and "supply anxiety" - so appropriate!
You write well

I think the answer to the whole juice thing is to find a few locally made inexpensive juices one likes and have a few premium international ones that we do group buys on.

I plan to pay more attention to the local juices in the months ahead.
 
Loved your post @ashTZA !
Some classic chirps - "but none whispered naughty things in my ear" and "supply anxiety" - so appropriate!
You write well

I think the answer to the whole juice thing is to find a few locally made inexpensive juices one likes and have a few premium international ones that we do group buys on.

I plan to pay more attention to the local juices in the months ahead.

Well I already have a few local flavours that I won't want to go without.

I actually noticed last week - I used to stock a few normal priced juices for vaping all day. Then I'd save "the good stuff" (imported) for night time relaxing at home.

I noticed last week, that my "good stuff" juice were all local.
 
Yip, i agree

Its like having a value for money wine for daily use and those expensive bottles for occasional treats. (as my wife would say, since i dont drink much wine)
 
Loved your post @ashTZA !
Some classic chirps - "but none whispered naughty things in my ear" and "supply anxiety" - so appropriate!
You write well

I think the answer to the whole juice thing is to find a few locally made inexpensive juices one likes and have a few premium international ones that we do group buys on.

I plan to pay more attention to the local juices in the months ahead.

I agree 100% with you here.

I must say that both the Krave juices that Mob stocks are very well made (and locally made too). Sure, it pushes the price boundry at R200 a bottle, but I am fine with paying that for what I get out of the juice. VooDoo, VM, LV, etc are very good juices for very good prices. 5 Pawns is the only premium import juice that I have paid over R250 a bottle for, but R350 a bottle is a bit rich. I have actually put it in my cart, and then removed it just before buying a couple of times. For some reason I just can not get myself to pay R350 a bottle.

Now I am not naive and know that Mob has overheads to cover, and thus the price for the juice. But I look at my juice purchases this way... R350 for a bottle of 5P plus R90 shipping = R440 for that bottle. If I add R50 I can get 2 bottles of Krave plus shipping.
 
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