Advice on Griffin or other RDA

[Silver]

Hi @morras

Cant advise on the Griffin or most of the tanks the guys above are talking about.

But what I will offer is as follows:

Indeed, vaping can be very expensive if you want to try out lots of the latest and greatest. And the juices can also be costly especially if you are on a thirsty device producing lots of clouds.

I think it helps to get a more economical rebuildable device that has good flavour and use that as your "workhorse". For that you may have to up the nic a bit so you dont go through too much juice - and then its more cost effective. Something like a Subtank mini is great for that in my view.

Then you can get a thirsty juice guzzler in addition for the occasional vape and enjoyment.

But having one or two "workhorse" economy vapes to your liking helps a lot in making the journey less costly and more reliable.

What are you vaping on now? What is it you are looking for? Something for the occasional vape or something you can vape on as your main device?

 

[Christos]

Crap. I guess I will be investing in the Aromamizer I was eyeballing yesterday. If this tank gives I will birth a whale unless I have something comparable on hand. Damn.

Don't let my bad experience ruin a tank. Like I said I think mine was just a dud.
I liked it so much Im thinking I should get another one.

 

[morras]

Hi @morras

Cant advise on the Griffin or most of the tanks the guys above are talking about.

But what I will offer is as follows:

Indeed, vaping can be very expensive if you want to try out lots of the latest and greatest. And the juices can also be costly especially if you are on a thirsty device producing lots of clouds.

I think it helps to get a more economical rebuildable device that has good flavour and use that as your "workhorse". For that you may have to up the nic a bit so you dont go through too much juice - and then its more cost effective. Something like a Subtank mini is great for that in my view.

Then you can get a thirsty juice guzzler in addition for the occasional vape and enjoyment.

But having one or two "workhorse" economy vapes to your liking helps a lot in making the journey less costly and more reliable.

What are you vaping on now? What is it you are looking for? Something for the occasional vape or something you can vape on as your main device?

Thanks for all the responses.

I currently have a topbox mini , a pioneer 4 u ipv5 and a ijust2.
Was down in durban over easter and went by the Sirs , they were king enough to build me a coil and wick it on my rba , worked like a charm and looked easy , or that's what I thought.......tried last night and only managed one working but with a much higher resistance than I was looking for , did a 5 turn on a 2 mill bar with 28 gauge a1 kanthal wire , bur at least it worked.

so now while I have everyone's attention please help with photos , videos and helpful information on building a coil , looking for resistance between 0.3 and 0.8 with canthal , I think the 28 gauge wire I have is to thin , should I go thicker ? How many coil turns is ideal , I suppose that will help with the choice of wire ?I tried a couple of times last night and like I said only 1 worked , on the other I wicked I had plenty problems , is suspect that my wicking is bad.on some I dry burned and as soon as wicked I got no ohm reading , just a flashing 9.99 reading on the kangertech device , think I might have burnt the wire right off ?

how long should I dry burn the coil , how many times and just short bursts or longer bursts ?

hopefully with the advice from u guys I will master this , after last night I actually feel just a little bit useless.



I thought I wanted a griffen to build lekker coils and so on , after last night it is probably better that I master the rba for the subtank first and move on later.

 

[Christos]

Thanks for all the responses.

I currently have a topbox mini , a pioneer 4 u ipv5 and a ijust2.
Was down in durban over easter and went by the Sirs , they were king enough to build me a coil and wick it on my rba , worked like a charm and looked easy , or that's what I thought.......tried last night and only managed one working but with a much higher resistance than I was looking for , did a 5 turn on a 2 mill bar with 28 gauge a1 kanthal wire , bur at least it worked.

so now while I have everyone's attention please help with photos , videos and helpful information on building a coil , looking for resistance between 0.3 and 0.8 with canthal , I think the 28 gauge wire I have is to thin , should I go thicker ? How many coil turns is ideal , I suppose that will help with the choice of wire ?I tried a couple of times last night and like I said only 1 worked , on the other I wicked I had plenty problems , is suspect that my wicking is bad.on some I dry burned and as soon as wicked I got no ohm reading , just a flashing 9.99 reading on the kangertech device , think I might have burnt the wire right off ?

how long should I dry burn the coil , how many times and just short bursts or longer bursts ?

hopefully with the advice from u guys I will master this , after last night I actually feel just a little bit useless.



I thought I wanted a griffen to build lekker coils and so on , after last night it is probably better that I master the rba for the subtank first and move on later.

http://www.steam-engine.org
That should assist with wraps internal diameter and material resistance.

Why not try 26 AWG stainless steel?
The resistance on SS is lower than kanthal.

 

[Silver]

Thanks for all the responses.

I currently have a topbox mini , a pioneer 4 u ipv5 and a ijust2.
Was down in durban over easter and went by the Sirs , they were king enough to build me a coil and wick it on my rba , worked like a charm and looked easy , or that's what I thought.......tried last night and only managed one working but with a much higher resistance than I was looking for , did a 5 turn on a 2 mill bar with 28 gauge a1 kanthal wire , bur at least it worked.

so now while I have everyone's attention please help with photos , videos and helpful information on building a coil , looking for resistance between 0.3 and 0.8 with canthal , I think the 28 gauge wire I have is to thin , should I go thicker ? How many coil turns is ideal , I suppose that will help with the choice of wire ?I tried a couple of times last night and like I said only 1 worked , on the other I wicked I had plenty problems , is suspect that my wicking is bad.on some I dry burned and as soon as wicked I got no ohm reading , just a flashing 9.99 reading on the kangertech device , think I might have burnt the wire right off ?

how long should I dry burn the coil , how many times and just short bursts or longer bursts ?

hopefully with the advice from u guys I will master this , after last night I actually feel just a little bit useless.



I thought I wanted a griffen to build lekker coils and so on , after last night it is probably better that I master the rba for the subtank first and move on later.

Hi @morras
It takes a bit of time to get the coils right. Hang in there. You are doing well.
I agree its probably best to master the Subtank Mini RBA before moving on to other things.
That can perhaps become your "economy workhorse"

I use 28g wire for my Subtank mini coils at about 1.1 ohms because I like a crisper vape on it thats not too warm. Also more economical. I wrap around 2mm about 7 turns - compressed (ie coils touching each other)

There are lots of coil variables at play, so check out the following posts. They are older posts but still valid and will help a bit.
http://www.ecigssa.co.za/coils.t11571/#post-224199
And
http://www.ecigssa.co.za/talk-to-me-about-building-coils.t12467/#post-236333

For dry burning I just pulse it about three times for shortish periods - aboit a second or so. Ie the coil glows a bit but doesnt get white hot. I also use a lower power for this - around 10-15 Watts

 

[morras]

Thanks Silver , will keep on trying.

Do I need a proper coil roller and a deck to build properly ? Or do I just use the precision screwdriver set I have and carry on like that ?

would love to spend some time with someone who has experience at this and learn , no one like that in Rustenburg or close by ?

 

[Andre]

Thanks Silver , will keep on trying.

Do I need a proper coil roller and a deck to build properly ? Or do I just use the precision screwdriver set I have and carry on like that ?

would love to spend some time with someone who has experience at this and learn , no one like that in Rustenburg or close by ?

I found one other vaper in Rustenburg from the map in this thread. Called @The Wolf.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

Don't let my bad experience ruin a tank. Like I said I think mine was just a dud.
I liked it so much Im thinking I should get another one.

Well my motto is to always have spares for my spares. Tank-wise, I think it is not time to buy but time to wait a teeny bit. I am very curious to see the next gen in RTA develop. Seriously exciting things happening on all fronts. But yeah if the Griffin gives on me I am going to get an Aromamizer. I really like them.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

Thanks Silver , will keep on trying.

Do I need a proper coil roller and a deck to build properly ? Or do I just use the precision screwdriver set I have and carry on like that ?

would love to spend some time with someone who has experience at this and learn , no one like that in Rustenburg or close by ?

All you need is an extra roll of wire, and an evening of your time. I use screwdrivers they work just fine.

I would HIGHLY recommend you let the shop or somebody close show you the wicking part. This can be annoying while you get it right. I learned to build on a dripper, and at first I had to pull the cotton out of there quite often because of not doing it right. Dry hits suuuuuuck.

 

[ET]

Thanks for all the responses.

I currently have a topbox mini , a pioneer 4 u ipv5 and a ijust2.
Was down in durban over easter and went by the Sirs , they were king enough to build me a coil and wick it on my rba , worked like a charm and looked easy , or that's what I thought.......tried last night and only managed one working but with a much higher resistance than I was looking for , did a 5 turn on a 2 mill bar with 28 gauge a1 kanthal wire , bur at least it worked.

so now while I have everyone's attention please help with photos , videos and helpful information on building a coil , looking for resistance between 0.3 and 0.8 with canthal , I think the 28 gauge wire I have is to thin , should I go thicker ? How many coil turns is ideal , I suppose that will help with the choice of wire ?I tried a couple of times last night and like I said only 1 worked , on the other I wicked I had plenty problems , is suspect that my wicking is bad.on some I dry burned and as soon as wicked I got no ohm reading , just a flashing 9.99 reading on the kangertech device , think I might have burnt the wire right off ?

how long should I dry burn the coil , how many times and just short bursts or longer bursts ?

hopefully with the advice from u guys I will master this , after last night I actually feel just a little bit useless.



I thought I wanted a griffen to build lekker coils and so on , after last night it is probably better that I master the rba for the subtank first and move on later.

Ok first you're going to want to twist some of that 28g kanthal together nice and tight. Do one section double twisted (2 wires) and one triple twisted (3 wires). Plenty youtube videos on how to do it. Easy way to get thicker wire real quick. And twisted kanthal does seem to give a little more flavour also.

Next you'll need say a 2.5 or even 3mm drillbit or screwdriver or the like to wrap your sexy new wire around. Oh yeah and a small blowtorch to nuke twisted wire to make it less springy. Youtube torching kanthal or somesuch. Do about 6 or 7 wraps around the bit ending with both coil leads facing directly away from each other. Now comes the hassle of getting the leads and coil properly installed but just persevere. Also plenty youtube videos about this.

If this rambling makes remote sense, awesome, if not send me a pm and i'll try to better help

 

[Lord Vetinari]

Keep your screwdriver/drill bit in the wrapped coil as you install it. This keeps it in shape as you wiggle it about. Also yes 28g is very thin to start with go fetch some 24g. The 28g will not go to waste you will find uses for it. But for now go for a thicker gauge.