Basic DIY not working out for me, Help please

[SAVaper]

@gertvanjoe . If you mean shaking the crap out of the finished product then . OMG yes
if you mean shake the nic before the mix, not at all.

@Igno thanks for the info. will try mixing it with VG, still have a load of that

Shake your nic before mixing with anything. Like mentioned, hot spots can happen and then your % is out.
I only tried 2 flavours on their own and never again. Did not work for me. Now I piggyback on recipes from more experienced guys.
Look for a recipe you think you may like and then get those flavours.

 

[DanTheMan]

Thank you for the help

From now on i will:
Shake the &^% out of my nic
Buy concentrates that experts use in their mixes and replicate that recipe
Maybe give TFA\FA a chance
Start with concentrates at 3% instead of 10%

You guys have been very helpful
When i start to get the hang of things i'll do a giveaway.

 

[Soutie]

I only tried 2 flavours on their own and never again. Did not work for me. Now I piggyback on recipes from more experienced guys.

I find that FA fruit flavours are generally very good stand alone if I'm looking for something nice and simple to Vape.

 

[RichJB]

FA also make a range of flavours which are, of themselves, mixes - Tiramisu, Torrone, Metaphor, Labyrinth, Wow, Euphoria, Hypnotic Mist, Morning Sun, UP, etc. These are decent standalone vapes which give a bit more complexity than a simple one-ingredient vape.

The problem with only trying recipes is that you will never really get a feel for what each flavour is adding. I did a mix of TFA Silly Rabbit with Vapeowave Marshmallow and Vapeowave Cream recently. Iirc Silly Rabbit was around 8% with Cream and Marshmallow at about 4% each. It was truly disgusting and I had to bin it. I felt physically ill vaping it. But now I don't know why it was bad. I've vaped Silly Rabbit on its own and while it's not great standalone, it's at least vapeable. So now what killed the mixture - did I get percentages wrong, is it just a stupendously unsuitable flavour mix, is the Vapeowave Cream bad, or is the Vapeowave Marshmallow the culprit? The only way I can know is to mix Cream and Marshmallow on their own.

The flipside of that is that a flavour in a mix can give you an entirely different sensation from that same flavour on its own. HIC's recipes are full of notes that he will add, for example, tobacco flavour to a non-tobacco juice. And you won't taste tobacco in the finished juice. He is adding the tobacco for sweetness or coolness or some other aspect, and adding it in such small quantities that the tobacco cannot be discerned in the final recipe.

So DIY is much like being a chef I suppose, a lifelong journey to find out not only what each ingredient does on its own, but what it does in concert with each other ingredient.

 

[moonunit]

Try FA croissant or FW choc mint, they could work as stand alone. FA croissant can be likened to lemon cream biscuits.


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[RichJB]

I saw a funny description of FA Croissant somewhere: "So now FA has found a way to sell us their usual lemon but this time in the guise of French pastry."

 

[gertvanjoe]

@gertvanjoe . If you mean shaking the crap out of the finished product then . OMG yes
if you mean shake the nic before the mix, not at all.

@Igno thanks for the info. will try mixing it with VG, still have a load of that

I mean shaking the nic before the mix

 

[incredible_hullk]

Try FA croissant or FW choc mint, they could work as stand alone. FA croissant can be likened to lemon cream biscuits.


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in what alternate universe us croissant like a lemon biscuit...and to think it was in my cart

 

[moonunit]

@incredible_hulk haha, got a big surprise when I tasted it. Had big plans to make a nice croissant recipe, and then realized it tasted nothing like croissant, although it work perfectly in a lemon cream recipe.


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[gertvanjoe]

Thank you for the help

From now on i will:
Shake the &^% out of my nic
Buy concentrates that experts use in their mixes and replicate that recipe
Maybe give TFA\FA a chance
Start with concentrates at 3% instead of 10%

You guys have been very helpful
When i start to get the hang of things i'll do a giveaway.

Well ... do experiment, just don't think your first experiment will taste great And experiment by checking out some recommended %'s too. But yeah, if great off the bat is what you are after the recipe route should be tops ( I only do the recipe route for now, did try a few single flavour / doubles taking into consideration their recommended % )

 

[Andre]

@incredible_hulk haha, got a big surprise when I tasted it. Had big plans to make a nice croissant recipe, and then realized it tasted nothing like croissant, although it work perfectly in a lemon cream recipe.


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I was wondering what to do with FA Croissant. Single or in a lemon cream recipe. Do you have a specific lemon cream recipe you used it in?

 

[moonunit]

I do will post it in the DIY thread a little later. Still needs some tweaks but after a week it is bang on, after a month the lemon settles a bit too much and the biscuit begins to take over.

Apologies for the derailment


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[DanTheMan]

Do you get a bacon flavour?
that would be freggin epic