Bat Bought Twisp

[Imotions]

Howsit guys just heard British American Tobacco just bought Twisp off wats ur views would it change the way people look at vaping or e cigs seeing they are the monsters of the tobacco industry

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[shabbar]

hopefully we get a nice tobacco flavour

 

[soonkia]

Not the first vape company to be brought by big tobacco. They know that "Vaping is the Future, and the Future is now"

The Good Side - Tobacco companies are used to dealing with governments and lobbying them - so we have much better chance of laws are going to be less stringent.

The Bad Side: Tobacco companies are used to dealing with strict regulation, and they might actually push for stricter regulation on e-cigs. Think about it, if it cost you R10 000 000+ to create one new flavour of e-liquid, would anybody other than them really be in the position to make eliquid? So, they might push for stronger regulation to strangle competition.

 

[phanatik]

Would they not want to buy e-cig companies to regulate and control the use and distribution of it?

I don't think large tobacco companies suddenly changing their tune to support e-cigs would be viable to the tobacco industry.

 

[crack2483]

Could it not just be strategic? Besides the regulations etc etc, if you losing market share, just buy out you competition.

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[phanatik]

I think the losses they would incur if e-cig go mainstream would be far greater than the profits that they would gain from it.
Think the tobacco plantations etc etc

 

[Robert Howes]

Would those tobacco plantations not be making nicotine for e-liquids?

 

[Rex_Bael]

A few of the tobacco companies have been looking at vaping products, if I remember correctly BAT have been pursuing their own cig-alike. I am not too surprised that they picked up Twisp, considering the market penetration that they have achieved thus far. It does seem to indicate that they are starting to take it seriously. It could swing both ways, but mostly I think that the big tobacco companies are realizing that now is the time for them to start making their mark. As @soonkia said, they will be in a prime position to secure a large chunk of the market since they will be better prepared for dealing with more stringent regulations; not to mention the massive amounts of capital they can pump into this and the high level political and business connections they have available.

Communities such as this one have made it abundantly clear that vaping is not a fad and is not going anywhere. Whether we like it or not, the tobacco industries and vaping are fundamentally intertwined. They are not going to sit there and watch their customer base be decimated while they could simply afford them an opportunity to switch "brands" and keep the business in-house. I am sure there are many people that will be much more comfortable switching if they could simply pick up a box of Camel or Dunhill cig-alikes at the Checkers cigarette counter.

@phanatik The tobacco industry will not really be changing it's tune, just switching to a different key. I believe they were biding their time hoping the governement would squash vaping and save them the trouble. Their target market has already been shifting for many years towards less affluent countries and lower income groups. Vaping has a long way to go towards penetrating these markets. For the markets where vaping is slowly becoming more common and mainstream, big tobacco would be silly to just stand by and watch. The fact that a certain percentage of their customers are going to switch just gives them an incentive to enter the market.

 

[Silver]

Howsit guys just heard British American Tobacco just bought Twisp off wats ur views would it change the way people look at vaping or e cigs seeing they are the monsters of the tobacco industry

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Hey @Imotions , where did you hear this? Was there a press release somewhere?

In any event, Twisp is only in SA to my knowledge. So are you saying BAT, the global company, bought Twisp?

 

[shabbar]

I tried googling this and couldnt find anything about it

 

[Silver]

I tried googling this and couldnt find anything about it

Lol, amazing how in this day and age, if Google cant find something then we tend to question it

 

[Matt]

They have been in the vaping market for a while now.
Was expected that they would buy up companys like twisp.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...BAT-plans-to-dominate-e-cigarette-market.html

 

[Tyler]

Howsit guys just heard British American Tobacco just bought Twisp off wats ur views would it change the way people look at vaping or e cigs seeing they are the monsters of the tobacco industry

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Where did you hear this from?

 

[Imotions]

http://m.news24.com/fin24/Companies/Industrial/BAT-eyes-global-e-cigarette-market-20130731

Hi guys was probably just a rumour that was spread of above meaning e cigs and not much people knw about the vaping world n only knw twisp in SA therefore probably making them say twisp and i jumped into it...sorry if i just jumped into it...it also is an interesting topic though

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[Rex_Bael]

No worries @Imotions, we all make mistakes

 

[Imotions]

lol but im gna find out nw where did everyone get the news from

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[Silver]

No worries @Imotions

I would find it weird for BAT, one of the worlds major tobacco companies to buy the Twisp brand in SA
I would think they would go for the bigger markets first
But I suppose anything can happen

 

[Imotions]

I would of tot or better yet tot they bought twisp due to them converting people.from stinkies in SA

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[BubiSparks]

Just leaving this here....

No Big Tobacco Company will ever see a cent of my money ever again!

 

[Raindance]

Just leaving this here....

No Big Tobacco Company will ever see a cent of my money ever again!

I get what you are saying but then again.

I knew what I was doing was harmful. Nobody forced me to smoke. I accept the responsibility for my choices and therefore blame no one for its consequences but myself. If big tobacco wishes to change their evil ways as did I, good for them. I will only blame them were they to try create a monopoly of the vape scene. Vaping was created by vapers for vapers. And that is the way it is going to stay. Not negotiable. Full stop.

Regards.

 

[BumbleBee]

Well this is interesting, this thread has been dormant since June 2014, the day it gets bumped this appears elsewhere on the interweb...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...obacco-expands-in-south-africa-with-vape-deal

 

[Daniel]

Click bait I tell you.... For me the Cue was a game changer maybe @HPBotha can comment if he's allowed to?

 

[Rob Fisher]

Nope it is true. BAT has bought Twisp.

 

[Hooked]

Well this is interesting, this thread has been dormant since June 2014, the day it gets bumped this appears elsewhere on the interweb...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...obacco-expands-in-south-africa-with-vape-deal

Hey @Raindance Are you psychic, or did you have insider information?

 

[Feliks Karp]

Eat any Cadbury's or shit like oreos and you are supporting big tobacco, Altria is the mother corp of Phillip Morris and have a majority stake in Kraft foods, which include Cadbury's, Jacob's, Nabisco etc. I'd just not buy Twisp because the quality seems undependable, unless you start growing your own food big tobacco has your money already.