Box mods??

Right, seems I may have missed one or two
Lol, we're not that deprived in SA as one would think. There's also the ZNA which is almost literally the "tweener", a box attached to a tube, or is it the other way round?
 
Hi @Skobbejak

Your question is a good one and for a relative new vaper it is all quite confusing. I fully understand

Firstly, the Reo is a mechanical and the others mentioned are regulated boxes
The Reo has a juice bottle in it and is bottom fed so your juice is onboard and fed up to your atty via pressing the plastic bottle in the box
You get a dripper quality vape with the convenience of a tank - just you have to squonk every 5 puffs or so
Flavour and throat hit on a Reo is very good

The other regulated boxes require you to fit either a dripper or a tank on top
If you fit a dripper, you can get the same quality vape as a Reo but you have to carry a juice bottle and drip
If you fit a tank, you have convenience but the overall device is quite a bit larger

The advantage of a regulated is you can change the power on the fly. With a mechanical, you have to rebuild a new coil to change the power

A lot has to do with preference and concenience. So far, the Reos work well for me and I am very happy. They have worked flawlesly for 6 months without a single hitch.
 
HI there again, If it's taste you are after, all you have to do is get yourself a Magma, or plume veil, in my opinion some of the best flavors I have ever had, and not even with much effort.. on the magma you can run a 0.8 to 1 Ohm micro / nano coil, and actually be able to use it on your mvp2, wont look to good but it will get you started.. you will love the flavor of that build... and the juice well is hectic big, you can drop ALLOT of juice in there and just vape forever, hehe.. (do a single coil build..)

As for the box mods, you have allot of options, Look for instance on vape kings website, they have a good couple of options to go for. it all depends on what you are willing to sped, as many of the guys have already stated... thing is, you will almost certainly want to go bigger at some stage, so try to plan ahead when you purchase your mod, I would for instance have gone for at least a Hana Modz 30W device, did I know what I know now, hehe.. but instead, I started with all the smaller items, like for instance the T-Mas s80, Still have it, still use it with my nautilus every now and then, hehe.

well that is my 2c's hope it helps... Enjoy your vaping man...
 
Of course if you have the battery that can handle a 0.15 Ohm load.

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Was a bit scared to go down low on my reo, lowest I ventured was around the 0.5ohm mark but today there's going to be a 0.3 in the plumeveil and onto the reo she goes.
 
@Silver has stated all the facts as simple as one could possibly put them.
it does come down to a matter of preference. i personally tried regulated mods first. was so chuffed that i wrote off mech mods. then when i finally tries a mech mod i hated it. eventually i gave a reo a go and since have only been using her. your preference shouldnt be affected by what the masses are saying. choose a device based on what you feel you want out of your device. if you are looking for something that you can up and down the power as you like then go regulated but know you will compromise flavour and hit. if you want flavour and hit then look mechanical. most guys using mechanical dont need to up and down power as they just build a coil exactly where they like it. once you find you sweet spot you will vary rarely drift away from it.
 
@Silver has stated all the facts as simple as one could possibly put them.
it does come down to a matter of preference. i personally tried regulated mods first. was so chuffed that i wrote off mech mods. then when i finally tries a mech mod i hated it. eventually i gave a reo a go and since have only been using her. your preference shouldnt be affected by what the masses are saying. choose a device based on what you feel you want out of your device. if you are looking for something that you can up and down the power as you like then go regulated but know you will compromise flavour and hit. if you want flavour and hit then look mechanical. most guys using mechanical dont need to up and down power as they just build a coil exactly where they like it. once you find you sweet spot you will vary rarely drift away from it.
Excellent advise @Marzuq only thing I disagree with is the loss of flavour in a regulated mod. But then taste is very subjective
 
Excellent advise @Marzuq only thing I disagree with is the loss of flavour in a regulated mod. But then taste is very subjective

agreed. taste is something that no two people will find the same. in my experience and i suppose it could have something with the type of tank used. flavour on regulated mods are weaker. these exclude drippers of course
 
This brings up another topic but very closely related

@RevnLucky7 posted something a few months back which has stuck with me and I have been pondering about. Maybe those with more experience can comment

He once said he likes his high powered regulated devices because he can just build a simple 1 ohm coil and crank it right up to 40 or 50 watts to get more heat.

To get that on a Mech, you'd have to build a low resistance coil, say around 0.4 ohms. Arguably far less wraps and surface area.

Has anyone tried this and compared a simple 1 ohm coil (say 7 wraps of 28g) on a regulated at say 45 Watts
Versus
A 0.4 ohm coil on a mechanical? (i assume 24g or thereabouts with far fewer wraps)

How do the two compare and what is the vape experience like? Pros and cons?

I dont have a regulated box with enough power to do this myself.
 
This brings up another topic but very closely related

@RevnLucky7 posted something a few months back which has stuck with me and I have been pondering about. Maybe those with more experience can comment

He once said he likes his high powered regulated devices because he can just build a simple 1 ohm coil and crank it right up to 40 or 50 watts to get more heat.

To get that on a Mech, you'd have to build a low resistance coil, say around 0.4 ohms. Arguably far less wraps and surface area.

Has anyone tried this and compared a simple 1 ohm coil (say 7 wraps of 28g) on a regulated at say 45 Watts
Versus
A 0.4 ohm coil on a mechanical? (i assume 24g or thereabouts with far fewer wraps)

How do the two compare and what is the vape experience like? Pros and cons?

I dont have a regulated box with enough power to do this myself.

thats a very interesting question. and i am keen to hear what the findings on this topic would be. unfortunately i do not have a regulated device that can perform that high but hopefully we find a volunteer who will test and report back
 
Look I suppose one could do the same comparison at say 30 watts

Then its like building a 0.6 ohm coil for the mechanical

I suspect though that any differences would be amplified at the higher wattages
 
Look I suppose one could do the same comparison at say 30 watts

Then its like building a 0.6 ohm coil for the mechanical

I suspect though that any differences would be amplified at the higher wattages

i think what we will find is that the mechanical will out perform the regulated while running a full battery. as it drains the hit and flavour will diminish along with it. i have always liked the regulated mods for its ability to provide a constant and consistent vape. but the benefits of a reo in my opinion out weighs the benefit of the constant vape provided by a regulated mod

also a point to note is that a conventiona coil run at high power does not last as long as a built coil run on a mechanical mod
 
I hear you @Marzuq

But my interest lies less in what happens as the battery drains and more in the actual vape itself when the batts are fresh

Will 30 watts on a 7 wrap 28g 1 ohm coil on a regulated mod taste different to 30 Watts on a 0.6 ohm coil with fewer wraps on a mechanical mod? Same atty, same wick, same juice.
 
This brings up another topic but very closely related

@RevnLucky7 posted something a few months back which has stuck with me and I have been pondering about. Maybe those with more experience can comment

He once said he likes his high powered regulated devices because he can just build a simple 1 ohm coil and crank it right up to 40 or 50 watts to get more heat.

To get that on a Mech, you'd have to build a low resistance coil, say around 0.4 ohms. Arguably far less wraps and surface area.

Has anyone tried this and compared a simple 1 ohm coil (say 7 wraps of 28g) on a regulated at say 45 Watts
Versus
A 0.4 ohm coil on a mechanical? (i assume 24g or thereabouts with far fewer wraps)

How do the two compare and what is the vape experience like? Pros and cons?

I dont have a regulated box with enough power to do this myself.
I suspect a RTA will not be able to keep up at that power. So, you are probably back to a dripper, which is exactly why you have a Reo - drip quality without the hassle. Unless you use something like the big dripper, which does take 3 ml, but then size of the combo becomes somewhat unwieldy for me.
 
Look I suppose one could do the same comparison at say 30 watts

Then its like building a 0.6 ohm coil for the mechanical

I suspect though that any differences would be amplified at the higher wattages
The higher the gauge... The smoother the smoother the hit. That's why guys are choking on all these 18g builds. We did a 12g in store the other day. You can't exhale. It chokes you up. I currently have dual 24 and it hits like a 12mg juice. Same juice on 28g wire of a similar build has a much smoother hit and feels more like six.

Regarding the box mod, I reckon Yusaf just about made the best recommendation. You don't need a reo for flavor and TH. You need an atty with a condensed chamber. For a setup that will allow multiple options, go with Yusafs suggestion.

Unless (I'm so gonna burn for this one - come on sadists... Do your worst ) you prefer living in the 60's.... Then get a Reo.

Either way... It's going to cost a bit. So ensure you do your research. Patience is a good thing in this hobby.
 
I suspect a RTA will not be able to keep up at that power. So, you are probably back to a dripper, which is exactly why you have a Reo - drip quality without the hassle. Unless you use something like the big dripper, which does take 3 ml, but then size of the combo becomes somewhat unwieldy for me.

I hear you @Andre and fully agree with you. But am just curious at the difference of the vape itself. Two different coils but on the regulated the power is just pushed up higher. If the vape was as good as the mech with the lower ohm build then the regulated would provide for a super range to test juices and vary the vape without building coils.

But i suspect that pushing more power on a higher 1 ohm coil has drawbacks somewhere. There must be some tradeoffs or negatives of doing this.
 
The higher the gauge... The smoother the smoother the hit. That's why guys are choking on all these 18g builds. We did a 12g in store the other day. You can't exhale. It chokes you up. I currently have dual 24 and it hits like a 12mg juice. Same juice on 28g wire of a similar build has a much smoother hit and feels more like six.

Regarding the box mod, I reckon Yusaf just about made the best recommendation. You don't need a reo for flavor and TH. You need an atty with a condensed chamber. For a setup that will allow multiple options, go with Yusafs suggestion.

Unless (I'm so gonna burn for this one - come on sadists... Do your worst ) you prefer living in the 60's.... Then get a Reo.

Either way... It's going to cost a bit. So ensure you do your research. Patience is a good thing in this hobby.

very informative @RevnLucky7 i believe more testing is required on my own part to be able to satisfy the question put forward by @Silver
unfortunately i no longer own a regulated device capable of doing a fair test so i will have to postpone my own experiement.

as for living in the 60s. was a much simpler time wouldnt you say?
 
The higher the gauge... The smoother the smoother the hit. That's why guys are choking on all these 18g builds. We did a 12g in store the other day. You can't exhale. It chokes you up. I currently have dual 24 and it hits like a 12mg juice. Same juice on 28g wire of a similar build has a much smoother hit and feels more like six.

Regarding the box mod, I reckon Yusaf just about made the best recommendation. You don't need a reo for flavor and TH. You need an atty with a condensed chamber. For a setup that will allow multiple options, go with Yusafs suggestion.

Unless (I'm so gonna burn for this one - come on sadists... Do your worst ) you prefer living in the 60's.... Then get a Reo.

Either way... It's going to cost a bit. So ensure you do your research. Patience is a good thing in this hobby.
That is not only not true, but rather uncalled for...and from a vendor. I can put many a condensed chamber atty on a Reo. On the looks I have no problem if you do not like it, but functionality is another matter.
 
If vape devices were available in the 60's I most probably would never have smoked.
 
The higher the gauge... The smoother the smoother the hit. That's why guys are choking on all these 18g builds. We did a 12g in store the other day. You can't exhale. It chokes you up. I currently have dual 24 and it hits like a 12mg juice. Same juice on 28g wire of a similar build has a much smoother hit and feels more like six.

Regarding the box mod, I reckon Yusaf just about made the best recommendation. You don't need a reo for flavor and TH. You need an atty with a condensed chamber. For a setup that will allow multiple options, go with Yusafs suggestion.

Unless (I'm so gonna burn for this one - come on sadists... Do your worst ) you prefer living in the 60's.... Then get a Reo.

Either way... It's going to cost a bit. So ensure you do your research. Patience is a good thing in this hobby.

Thanks @RevnLucky7
So you saying a 28g 1ohm coil will feel smoother on a regulated at say 45 Watts than a 0.4 ohm build with thicker wire on a mechanical that leads to the same wattage?

PS - Im not worried about your chirp regarding the Reos being in the sixties ;-) we are all learning here and i will be the first to jump onto another "system" provided it gives me better overall benefits.

Its just a vape device. Am just trying to learn and improve.
 
That is not only not true, but rather uncalled for...and from a vendor. I can put many a condensed chamber atty on a Reo. On the looks I have no problem if you do not like it, but functionality is another matter.
Oh Andre must all your posts always get so emotional mate? I'm a vapor... This is a forum... I'm entitled to an opinion. Smile a little... God forbid any of us "vendors" try and use a little humor.

Apologies for stepping on your Reo parade
 
Thanks @RevnLucky7
So you saying a 28g 1ohm coil will feel smoother on a regulated at say 45 Watts than a 0.4 ohm build with thicker wire on a mechanical that leads to the same wattage?

PS - Im not worried about your chirp regarding the Reos being in the sixties ;-) we are all learning here and i will be the first to jump onto another "system" provided it gives me better overall benefits.

Its just a vape device. Am just trying to learn and improve.
I was expecting some flak for that. I think a few guys get in a little too deep.

Anyone, regarding the matter. That's exactly what I'm saying. Most guys recommend coil resistances of up to 1ohm for the best overall experience. 1ohm won't obviously get you far on a mech, but on the other end a mech never gives a TOO HOT reading.

There's always a trade off. Should you go the mech route you'll probably drop nic to negate the hit you get off thicker wire...

At the end of the day these are my opions. Through my experience what I know to be true. Only way to find what works best for you is to try it for yourself. And if I'm invited to deliver an opinion in a thread and have to deal with little "oh my god he's vendor... Can he say that hissy fits" then really... Come on man. Too much of this nonsense going around. Vape... Be happy.
 
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@Silver i really would like to see some real feedback regarding the question you posed. i wouldnt mind having a regulated mod that i can use when in a hurry or out of battery on my reo where i can get a similar or close to the same vape as my reo provides right now.
 
Peer group pressure will always influence the answers - this is as subjective as taste preference, but thats just my opinion.
 
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