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I just wish my skill and experience levels matched my enthusiasm and verbosity levels. :D Listening to guys like ConcreteRiver and Kopel and Cheeba, I feel like a caveman throwing rocks at the moon. How in heck do these guys get so knowledgeable so quickly? And then CR says he doesn't have a good palate and that it's mostly bluster and winging it. It's not. He's picking up notes that I wouldn't detect if they pulled a knife on me and mugged me. These guys are crazily attuned to what is happening in flavours and how they interact.
 
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I just wish my skill and experience levels matched my enthusiasm and verbosity levels. :D Listening to guys like ConcreteRiver and Kopel and Cheeba, I feel like a caveman throwing rocks at the moon. How in heck do these guys get so knowledgeable so quickly? And then CR says he doesn't have a good palate and that it's mostly bluster and winging it. It's not. He's picking up notes that I wouldn't detect if they pulled a knife on me and mugged me. These guys are crazily attuned to what is happening in flavours and how they interact.
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That's how I feel listening to /reading you
and a number of others on the forum!
 
craigb said:
That's how I feel listening to /reading you
and a number of others on the forum!
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That's what I feel like listening to everyone on here!

I just throw things together that seems like it could go together... then decide if I like it or not... with no idea what makes it work or what not...

And then I just sit back and enjoy the vaping with my little old school kangertech...

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Tanja said:
That's what I feel like listening to everyone on here!

I just throw things together that seems like it could go together... then decide if I like it or not... with no idea what makes it work or what not...

And then I just sit back and enjoy the vaping with my little old school kangertech...

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yup I'm there with that. Someone mentions that abc taste nice with xyz, hell I will try it. If it works for them then it sure as s..t will work for my unrefined palette.
 
@herb1, I take it you're wanting 50ml or more of Dragonfruit? He's out of stock on those sizes but has 10ml in.
 
GregF said:
yup I'm there with that. Someone mentions that abc taste nice with xyz, hell I will try it. If it works for them then it sure as s..t will work for my unrefined palette.
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For sure yes... I know if I like something or not... but will never be able to figure out what's in someone else's juice...

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Tanja said:
I just throw things together that seems like it could go together... then decide if I like it or not... with no idea what makes it work or what not...
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I think it's great to experiment and find out what you like rather than being urged to like whatever is hot on ATF. Vaping is a personal journey. If you are happy with your juices there is no reason to change. And the same with your mod, tank, coils, cotton, batteries, etc.

Unfortunately mixing is seen as competitive by many, which is fine too. But not when it pushes people in directions they don't want to go, or deters them from contributing. Kopel was talking about this in his last podcast, that people should feel free to release flavour notes and whatnot. On Reddit, ConcreteRiver's flavour notes are so excellent and detailed that I think a lot of people are intimidated to post theirs for fear that they will be compared to CR and found wanting. But there are a bazillion flavours that haven't been reviewed yet, it will take CR years to do them all.

Even if someone else just posts a basic description of the flavour and a recommended percentage, it helps. Provided that they are posting their own views, of course. I'm not sure what ELR posters think they are contributing by copying & pasting HIC's Notes on FA flavours again when six others have done so already. We already know what HIC thinks of the flavour, we want to know what they think of it. In that regard, I think @zandernwn is providing a great service for the DIY community here. Flavour notes are always welcome and helpful.

I do a fair bit of flavour testing, I should post more notes but I get lazy. It's quite a procedure as I usually do it in 0.5% or 1% increments, trying different setups at different wattages, doing it SnV and then at various stages of steeping. But if I'm doing it for myself, might as well share it.
 
RichJB said:
I think it's great to experiment and find out what you like rather than being urged to like whatever is hot on ATF. Vaping is a personal journey. If you are happy with your juices there is no reason to change. And the same with your mod, tank, coils, cotton, batteries, etc.

Unfortunately mixing is seen as competitive by many, which is fine too. But not when it pushes people in directions they don't want to go, or deters them from contributing. Kopel was talking about this in his last podcast, that people should feel free to release flavour notes and whatnot. On Reddit, ConcreteRiver's flavour notes are so excellent and detailed that I think a lot of people are intimidated to post theirs for fear that they will be compared to CR and found wanting. But there are a bazillion flavours that haven't been reviewed yet, it will take CR years to do them all.

Even if someone else just posts a basic description of the flavour and a recommended percentage, it helps. Provided that they are posting their own views, of course. I'm not sure what ELR posters think they are contributing by copying & pasting HIC's Notes on FA flavours again when six others have done so already. We already know what HIC thinks of the flavour, we want to know what they think of it. In that regard, I think @zandernwn is providing a great service for the DIY community here. Flavour notes are always welcome and helpful.

I do a fair bit of flavour testing, I should post more notes but I get lazy. It's quite a procedure as I usually do it in 0.5% or 1% increments, trying different setups at different wattages, doing it SnV and then at various stages of steeping. But if I'm doing it for myself, might as well share it.
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thats cool @RichJB please share if you get a chance. I am sure there are a few folks here, besides me, who value your opinion.
 
RichJB said:
I think it's great to experiment and find out what you like rather than being urged to like whatever is hot on ATF. Vaping is a personal journey. If you are happy with your juices there is no reason to change. And the same with your mod, tank, coils, cotton, batteries, etc.

Unfortunately mixing is seen as competitive by many, which is fine too. But not when it pushes people in directions they don't want to go, or deters them from contributing. Kopel was talking about this in his last podcast, that people should feel free to release flavour notes and whatnot. On Reddit, ConcreteRiver's flavour notes are so excellent and detailed that I think a lot of people are intimidated to post theirs for fear that they will be compared to CR and found wanting. But there are a bazillion flavours that haven't been reviewed yet, it will take CR years to do them all.

Even if someone else just posts a basic description of the flavour and a recommended percentage, it helps. Provided that they are posting their own views, of course. I'm not sure what ELR posters think they are contributing by copying & pasting HIC's Notes on FA flavours again when six others have done so already. We already know what HIC thinks of the flavour, we want to know what they think of it. In that regard, I think @zandernwn is providing a great service for the DIY community here. Flavour notes are always welcome and helpful.

I do a fair bit of flavour testing, I should post more notes but I get lazy. It's quite a procedure as I usually do it in 0.5% or 1% increments, trying different setups at different wattages, doing it SnV and then at various stages of steeping. But if I'm doing it for myself, might as well share it.
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I think I am way too impatient for that...

I soak up what all of you are saying... and try things... together with some recipes that I find online...

I am now on a mission to try and make the Bakers Nuttikrust biscuit... I think I have the base... I just need some caramel or butterscotch or dulche de leche or something in there... So I want to play around with that a little bit...

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Tanja said:
I think I am way too impatient for that...

I soak up what all of you are saying... and try things... together with some recipes that I find online...

I am now on a mission to try and make the Bakers Nuttikrust biscuit... I think I have the base... I just need some caramel or butterscotch or dulche de leche or something in there... So I want to play around with that a little bit...

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From using TFA Butterscotch before, i think this will give you the correct flavor you need for that Nuttikrust cookie!
 
StompieZA said:
From using TFA Butterscotch before, i think this will give you the correct flavor you need for that Nuttikrust cookie!
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I'm definitely going to give that a try... I do have some on hand

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Tanja said:
I'm definitely going to give that a try... I do have some on hand

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Butterscotch tastes like maple syrup which if i remember correctly, Those nutti cookies are super sweet and tastes like maple syrup so give it a go and let us know if it works.
 
StompieZA said:
Butterscotch tastes like maple syrup which if i remember correctly, Those nutti cookies are super sweet and tastes like maple syrup so give it a go and let us know if it works.
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That's my mission for this weekend... I will provide feedback

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No FW butterscotch ripple? Best butterscotch of them all IMO

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Caveman said:
No FW butterscotch ripple? Best butterscotch of them all IMO

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I do have that as well... Will make a couple of test batches...

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Tanja said:
I do have that as well... Will make a couple of test batches...

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Let us know your results. I've just cracked open a new bottle of Queens cookie jar, and the JF Biscuit tastes like nutty crust without the honey. Interesting, I might have to attempt this also. Needs nuttiness though. Maybe
JF biscuit, FW butterscotch ripple, AP or even a tad of peanut butter for nutty goodness.


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Caveman said:
Let us know your results. I've just cracked open a new bottle of Queens cookie jar, and the JF Biscuit tastes like nutty crust without the honey. Interesting, I might have to attempt this also. Needs nuttiness though. Maybe
JF biscuit, FW butterscotch ripple, AP or even a tad of peanut butter for nutty goodness.


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Please do try it as well! Would be great to see what someone else comes up with as well

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Caveman said:
Let us know your results. I've just cracked open a new bottle of Queens cookie jar, and the JF Biscuit tastes like nutty crust without the honey. Interesting, I might have to attempt this also. Needs nuttiness though. Maybe
JF biscuit, FW butterscotch ripple, AP or even a tad of peanut butter for nutty goodness.


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I've tried 3 versions today... will give feedback next weekend after a week in the cupboard...

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Thank you Jenn.



Interesting info on Zeppola and some Flv flavours benefiting from minor microwaving, though.
 
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Hola, bakery fiends. Your favourite purveyor of wholesome buttery DAAP goodness, Flavor West, have come out with a bunch of new flavours, many of which have me (as a bakery fiend) drooling. Vape Hyper already have the new White Cake and Birthday Cake flavours. From what I can tell, other new ones include:
Big stick - an iced lolly
Butterbeer
Buttered Popcorn
Cafe Cream
Chocolate Wafer Bar - Kit Kat basically
Circus Peanuts
Coffee Cake
Creamy Chocolate Cake
Creamy Sponge Cake - basically a Twinkie
Fireball Type - cinnamon alcohol?
Funnel Cake
Glazed Doughnut
Malt
Malt Candy Balls - Whispers basically
Mystery Flavour - ?
S'mores
Sprinkles
Starburst Type - candies
Teaberry - ?
Tropical Cream Breeze
Waffle Cone
Wild Berry Cobbler

One or two of those may not be new but I have never seen them locally. They seem to have some new tobaccos too.
 
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