Coppervape Skyline Discussion

[SinnerG]

New build. 2mm, 26awg, 0.56ohm (0.63 on device). Cotton bacon, not very tight, but not loose. Produces vapour, but just muted flavour. Dry. Ran it at 11W up to 20W. Maybe a little fruit flavour coming off the snvl 18, but it's meh.

Let it sit a bit more now, then took a tiny vape. There's a bit of flavour there, but I wouldn't call it satisfying. Can't really vape like that.

 

[Christos]

New build. 2mm, 26awg, 0.56ohm (0.63 on device). Cotton bacon, not very tight, but not loose. Produces vapour, but just muted flavour. Dry. Ran it at 11W up to 20W. Maybe a little fruit flavour coming off the snvl 18, but it's meh.

Let it sit a bit more now, then took a tiny vape. There's a bit of flavour there, but I wouldn't call it satisfying. Can't really vape like that.

Too much cotton...

 

[SinnerG]

Ok. Will run even less and see. It looks big, but that is really fluffed out.

 

[DaveH]

@SinnerG
I think .5 to .6 Ohms needs to be run at the very least 20 Watts.

There again most of the time I have no idea what I am talking about.

Dave

 

[SinnerG]

Lol

Yes, I did that. No difference.

So I'm going for less cotton. Right now, with that much cotton the only flavour I'm really getting is licking the juice of the air flow control holes.

 

[Christos]

Lol

Yes, I did that. No difference.

So I'm going for less cotton. Right now, with that much cotton the only flavour I'm really getting is licking the juice of the air flow control holes.

I'll rebuild a skyline and take photos and tag you in the appropriate thread later.

 

[ddk1979]

aybe pul out the fused Clapton you are talking about and rewrap it with 2.5 ID

@Room Fogger , I rewrapped the 29gx2/38g Ni80 fused clapton so that it now has a 2.5mm ID.
I first heated the 3mm ID coil and then I carefully unwrapped it using my coil jig. Then I rewrapped around a 2.5mm mandrel following the curve of the wire (caused by the initial wrapping) to try and prevent undue tension and possible snapping of the outer 38g wire.
The new coil has a resistance of 0.69 ohms. Initially I was only going to do 6 wraps but I was a bit concerned about the resistance possibly being a bit too low so I did a 7 wrap one.

Offchance it may be the coil is too high. Maybe try lowering the coil a bit without burning the airdisk. Maybe it's that.

@Silver , I lowered the coil slightly. All previous coils were in line with the top of the posts. There seems to be still enough space so that hopefully the airdisk doesn't burn (I'm a bit concerned about that!)





I unfortunately didn't take any pics of the wick because I was trying so many of them.
The final wick used only has a little resistance when pulling on it.

@SinnerG , it seems like the build I used last nite and one of the wicks is actually starting to work.
Flavour is at least on par with the kayfun v3 mini, and dare I say it, maybe even slightly better ???
I form a "curtain" around the juice opening and then spread the rest of the wick out. I push the wick away from the opening by using a small screwdriver to push it (from the outside of the juice hole). One has to play around to get it just right.
Some of my earlier wicks were perhaps too thin, but generally it seems as if this rta likes less wick instead of more.

Initially everything was working well except for the snap, crackle, pop that I got with every drag. Played around with the wattage (was on 16W) and even went as far as 30W for a short while but the gurgling was still there. After vaping about half a tank (at 22W), the airflow suddenly became a little bit more restricted and the snap crackle pop stopped. Have no idea what caused that and I'm too afraid to touch anything - an "if it works, don't fix it" situation.
.

 

[Room Fogger]

@Room Fogger , I rewrapped the 29gx2/38g Ni80 fused clapton so that it now has a 2.5mm ID.
I first heated the 3mm ID coil and then I carefully unwrapped it using my coil jig. Then I rewrapped around a 2.5mm mandrel following the curve of the wire (caused by the initial wrapping) to try and prevent undue tension and possible snapping of the outer 38g wire.
The new coil has a resistance of 0.69 ohms. Initially I was only going to do 6 wraps but I was a bit concerned about the resistance possibly being a bit too low so I did a 7 wrap one.

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@Silver , I lowered the coil slightly. All previous coils were in line with the top of the posts. There seems to be still enough space so that hopefully the airdisk doesn't burn (I'm a bit concerned about that!)


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I unfortunately didn't take any pics of the wick because I was trying so many of them.
The final wick used only has a little resistance when pulling on it.

@SinnerG , it seems like the build I used last nite and one of the wicks is actually starting to work.
Flavour is at least on par with the kayfun v3 mini, and dare I say it, maybe even slightly better ???
I form a "curtain" around the juice opening and then spread the rest of the wick out. I push the wick away from the opening by using a small screwdriver to push it (from the outside of the juice hole). One has to play around to get it just right.
Some of my earlier wicks were perhaps too thin, but generally it seems as if this rta likes less wick instead of more.

Initially everything was working well except for the snap, crackle, pop that I got with every drag. Played around with the wattage (was on 16W) and even went as far as 30W for a short while but the gurgling was still there. After vaping about half a tank (at 22W), the airflow suddenly became a little bit more restricted and the snap crackle pop stopped. Have no idea what caused that and I'm too afraid to touch anything - an "if it works, don't fix it" situation.
.

Excellent news, I have to try my first rewick soon, so this is going to be helping me a lot as well. Enjoy the taste train, I am running out of juice as I just cannot seem to put this down!

 

[DaveH]

@SinnerG

SNAP 26G 2mm comes out at .6 Ohms



However I didn't have an air disc in (forgot)

Vapes sort of at 15 Watts not very good not a lot of vapor nor flavour.
At 18 Watts a lot better still not that good.
Good at 22Watts starting to get a bit warm at 24 Watts (for me)

Maybe worth a try changing the air disc to one with a larger slot/hole and then close off the air (in) slots at the side.

Dave

 

[ddk1979]

I'll rebuild a skyline and take photos and tag you in the appropriate thread later.

Please include me.
Thanks
.

 

[SinnerG]

@Christos
Yes, please, I'd appreciate that.
I have spent more time building than vaping this tank. Surely that's not what makes vaping pleasant.

I have to admit, I find it quite odd that they have a dome shaped section covering the coil section, yet when you take it apart it is just a squared off inner chamber. The juice control cylinder inside the chimney is the chimney. Kind of a bit deceiving when you look at the chimney section through the glass. I always thought they put domed chambers into these things to give good flavour. Just a bit weird.

 

[ddk1979]

This is what happens to my juice all the time. This is SNLV 18, a clear coloured juice. The cotton discolours and bleeds into it.

@SinnerG , I just had a similar problem. Didn't even finish my 1st tank and the juice turned brown.
I've just cleaned everything and put in some fresh cotton and ... back to a crappy vape.
Perhaps I put in too much cotton. After about 5-6 vapes, the juice is already turning yellow.

Brown Juice



Brown wick



Fresh juice

 

[Darth Vaper]

I'm having a very similar experience with the Skyline...
At first, I couldn't get it to stop flooding out of the airflow. Watched all the wicking videos and tried them all. Eventually got it to stop leaking, but now getting underwhelming flavour, slight metallic taste, and brown juice. Definitely not what I was expecting from this tank at all

 

[Rob Fisher]

I finally cracked and ordered a SkyClone from @BumbleBee to see why there are so many of you unhappy with it... I built it with a Coil Company Fused Clapton and wicked it with Titanium Fiber Cotton. Well I'm impressed with the vape...


I don't use a Skydisc.


I trim the wicks and then I take off about 40% of the tail diagonally.


The critical issue when filling is that the juice flow control must be closed completely.

I will vape on it today and see if there is a discolouration of the juice.

 

[Daniel]

I finally cracked and ordered a SkyClone from @BumbleBee to see why there are so many of you unhappy with it... I built it with a Coil Company Fused Clapton and wicked it with Titanium Fiber Cotton. Well I'm impressed with the vape...The critical issue when filling is that the juice flow control must be closed completely.

I will vape on it today and see if there is a discolouration of the juice.

All in the name of science thx uncle Rob! Dibs btw

 

[SinnerG]

Which clone is that? The Coppervape? Odd that it has the ESG logo. Coppervape don't put that on, iirc.

 

[TheV]

Which clone is that? The Coppervape? Odd that it has the ESG logo. Coppervape don't put that on, iirc.

My Coppervape has a ESG logo

 

[Darth Vaper]

My Coppervape has a ESG logo

Mine does too. Also from @BumbleBee

Thanks for the experiment @Rob Fisher - will be watching for your feedback with interest

 

[Room Fogger]

Mine also has the logo!

 

[BumbleBee]

Coppervape made them with and without logos, some were supposed to go to some distributors and others elsewhere but that seems to have failed. Now almost all of them have had the logos on them.

 

[BubiSparks]

As far as I can tell, the only Coppervape clones without a logo are those from Fasttech. I have 5, all with logo. I got the first from @BumbleBee and the rest from 3FVape.

I'm happy as with them btw!!!!!!!!

 

[Room Fogger]

First rewick accomplished on the Skyline clone, not difficult at all, had a good teacher in @antonherbst , no bubbling, no leaking, cloud is good at 18 W, and the flavour is great. Tried a new juice on the dirty coil to get an idea of the flavour, E-Liquid project cowboy apple, tastes 10 x better now. Smooth, no overpowering apple, comfortable vape. Favorite tobaccos so far, Paulie's RY4Sure, Calamity Jane a lot stronger, and the E-liquid project seems good as well, going to try a couple more, can't wait to start mixing!

Tank done, time for refill.

 

[Christos]

@SinnerG any luck?

 

[RenaldoRheeder]

I am also using the Coppervape clone - it also has the logo. I build similar to @Rob Fisher. I get great flavor, no discoloration of the juice and no leaking.


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[SinnerG]

Got my Coppervape with Gearbest. No logo. And I don't mind. Don't mind clones, but I think it's nicer if they leave off the logos and/or branding.

And no luck as I haven't had the time to rebuild. I can do it here at my desk, but I want to pay attention and not do some rush job. Why is life so busy this year? Feels like I'm back to having no time.