DIY Fruit Recipes

Heya fellow mixers.
Looking for some help on a recipe I'm just getting more wrong than right. Trying to do a brain freeze clone. Can't really find anything helpful online that is true to the original.
My current take is just bland and doesn't have the vibrance and ice cold sensation. How do I make the fruits punch out more and get that icey taste without muting down everything else.

Cap - Sweet Strawberry 2.5%
TFA - Strawberry Ripe 2.5%
INW - Shisha Strawberry 2.5%
TFA - Pomegranate 3%
CAP - Kiwi 3%
TFA - Fuji Apple 3%
Koolada 1%
Menthol >0.5%
A few drops of CAP- Super Sweet.
Total flavor: 18%
Make this @3mg and 70/30


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@Eisenhorn from my experience, the beauty of "iced" vapes is its simplicity. My advise will be to tone your recipe down significantly. You have far too many flavours in there - all fighting with each other resulting in a muddled mess. Focus on the hero fruit with perhaps once accenting flavour.
In your example, Strawberry as the hero (no need for 3 here) and perhaps apple (classic combo). Drop the menthol and sweetner.
another tip is to add FA Cream fresh at 0.5% - it adds body without changing the flavour. Also, go for WS23 instead of Koolada, which tends to fade. My simple suggestion:

Strawberry Ripe 2.5%
Shisha Strawberry 1%
Fuji Apple 1.5% (Rather use FA Fuji) or perhaps FA Peach white at the same %...
WS23 1%
FA Cream Fresh 0.5

Enjoy!


 
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Apparently Cap Raspberry v2 is much weaker than Inw Raspberry and also has a strong floral/medicinal note. I think you'd need to add 3%, maybe even more, of Cap Raspberry to get the same potency as 0.5% Inw Raspberry. I think that will introduce a floral/medicinal note into the juice, so I doubt it would make a good sub.
thanks alot.didnt know that. think I should try inw raspberry then.thanks
 
Thanks @Rude Rudi
Agree that there is a lot going on, but as said chasing to make a clone of Brain Freeze, so all the aspects should be there. Your recipe sounds good, however not exactly what I'm after. Brain freeze is a combo of sweet Strawberry with a background of kiwi on the inhale, then you get the tart pomegranate and ice on the exhale. I added in the fuji to brighten up the fruit, the shisha strawberry to punch through. Looking at your advice I think I have taken it too far however with too much muddled extra. Think I'll try WS23, then only strawb, kiwi and pomegranate, then start subbing/fiddling from there.

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@Eisenhorn, TFA don't do a Fuji, I think you mean FA?

If you're going to sub, I think using FA Kiwi and Pomegranate would get you closer to what you want than Cap Kiwi and TFA Pomegranate. FA Kiwi is much brighter than Cap, which may eliminate the need for Fuji to brighten the mix. TFA Pomegranate has a soapy/floral thing which makes it tricky to mix with. FA will probably fit better without any distracting notes on the exhale.
 
Hi all. Is there perhaps a whatsapp group of some sorts where we can ask for advice or get tips outside the forum?

Or is the forum the place to go

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The forum is a good resource. There are several WA or FB groups dedicated to DIY as well. There are also many podcasts where you can find out more, although the ability to ask questions is limited. Still, watching the podcasts will answer many of the questions you want to ask, along with many that you wouldn't have thought to ask.
 
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The eJuice
✅KZGroot-v1
Bubblegum TFA - 0.5%
Cream Fresh FA - 1%
Grape Candy TFA - 2%
Grape Soda FW - 5%
Super Sweet CAP - 0.1%
Sweet and Tart TFA - 0.8%
9.4%
60/40 - SNV - 5Days

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ID : 3mm
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Spacing : 0mm
Leg Length : 5mm
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Ohms : 0.17
Watts : 50 to 60
Cotton : Cotton Candy
eJuice : KZGroot-v1
eJuice Mix : 60/40
Nicotine : 0mg
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Steeped : 5 Days
Assembled : 08/09/2017

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Cherry Blast FW - 5%
Extreme Ice FW - 4%
Raspberry TFA - 6%
Strawberry (Ripe) TFA - 6%
21%
65/35 - 3 Weeks

The Recipe come from "Somewhere" on the eLiquid Calculator website.

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The Build
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Carrys 25mm - RedIce-v1
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So, I have seen this one on one of my Facebook feed a number of times and finally mixed it up over the weekend - mostly because the name is quite catchy and for the fact that I received my INW Strawberry Shisha last week!

Doug's Awesome Sauce
3% Bavarian Cream (FW)
6% Peach (Juicy) (TPA)
5% Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA)
3% Strawberry Shisha (INAWERA)

This one only needs 24 hours to settle down and delivers BIG time! This simple combination of flavours just work brilliantly together. The main star here is the Strawberry Shisha, which is the accenting flavour and CANNOT be subbed. I must say that this strawberry has restored my faith in Strawberry flavours following a bit of a strawberry hiatus...

Give it a go - you'll love it!

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Thought I wouldn't like it, but made it for the hubby. Turns out I LOVE it. Now I need to make another 6 bottles...
 
Thanks @Rude Rudi
Agree that there is a lot going on, but as said chasing to make a clone of Brain Freeze, so all the aspects should be there. Your recipe sounds good, however not exactly what I'm after. Brain freeze is a combo of sweet Strawberry with a background of kiwi on the inhale, then you get the tart pomegranate and ice on the exhale. I added in the fuji to brighten up the fruit, the shisha strawberry to punch through. Looking at your advice I think I have taken it too far however with too much muddled extra. Think I'll try WS23, then only strawb, kiwi and pomegranate, then start subbing/fiddling from there.

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I'm also working on something inspired by this, have you had any further luck? I'm still very new to DIY so I am a lllooooonnggggg way off from attempting to clone it!

There is definitely something more in there than the advertised profile of Kiwi, Pomegranate and Strawberry. I added a little Cranberry and that seems to be doing something. I won't share my recipe just yet because I know I'm still far away.
 
Hey @Stosta
Have tried about 10 different variations of which maybe only 2 have been enjoyable. However nothing remotely close to the proper stuff. Definitely a case of the whole being more than the sum of the parts. I can see the cranberry adding something to the pomegranate aspect. I also detect a hint of Fuji Apple for the crisp brightness.
I'm still a very, very far way and will need to order a slew of different flavours and do dozens of batches to maybe get something even half as good.

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@Andre I have tried the ones listed, however as @Stosta also thinks there is a lot more intricacies to the original recipe than just 3 flavours and menthol. This is going to be a hard one to try and replicate

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@Andre I have tried the ones listed, however as @Stosta also thinks there is a lot more intricacies to the original recipe than just 3 flavours and menthol. This is going to be a hard one to try and replicate

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Good luck with the effort. Took me a long time and many versions to get an acceptable interpretation of Bowden's Mate by 5Pawns.
 
Mixed the same recipe from same author off e-liquid-recipes.com
It's a nice Vape, however not close to the real deal. Doesn't have the same brightness and play of flavours on the in/exhale. Plus adding enough koolada to get the same cold-effect just mutes everything. The experimenting continues

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Mixed the same recipe from same author off e-liquid-recipes.com
It's a nice Vape, however not close to the real deal. Doesn't have the same brightness and play of flavours on the in/exhale. Plus adding enough koolada to get the same cold-effect just mutes everything. The experimenting continues

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TFA Koolada?
 
Yup @Vino1718 and @zandernwn, started out with TFA Koolada...not great. Have now tried FW Extreme Ice, however that has too much flavour. WS23 is on the list for my next order.

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VapeMOB Papa Smurf Clone (not 100% IMO, but close)

I've tried to recreate this juice since I've started vaping. To be honest it's the juice that got me hooked on vaping. Now I've spent tons of time, money and effort in researching and creating all clone possible recipes, so much that I started to dislike it completely and gave up. :sick: Buying bucket loads of commercial juice was not an option when I started and immediately jumped into the DIY game. I'm certain that a lot of people in this community had a similar experience and is still looking for an answer.

My last order of supplies was sourced from Black Vapour's awesome Black Friday sale and one of the items ordered was on my watchlist for a long time. HS Blueberry... Initially, when I started to clone Papa Smurf the DIY scene wasn't nearly as resourceful as it is today. After a lot of research, trial and error I've found that Papa Smurf is somehow related to the Space Jam Andromeda juice. Anyway, I got my hands on a few clone recipes (https://www.kritikalmass.net/proddetail.asp?prod=SJ-Andromeda-Clone - this was one of them) and mixed it up, tweaked the recipe more and more, only to find that there is still something missing. How I got to the conclusion of it being based on this recipe is beyond forgotten. I've forgotten most of what I've found during each research attempt, but some concentrates stuck with me, HS Blueberry was one of them. I've never ordered it but had it on my wishlist until the right opportunity presented itself (Black Vapour Black Friday sale FTW :party:). When I received the HS Blueberry from my last order and opened it I immediately knew that this was the missing link.

I wanted to give it a go for the last time (sigh...) with hopes of it solving my past unnecessary obsessions and curiosity of recreating something even remotely similar to VapeMOB's Papa Smurf.

So... the recipe:
6-8% HS Blueberry
3% TFA Pomegranate
2% TFA Acai
4% TFA Vanillin

Give it at least 3 days rest.:snooze:

After mixing up two varieties of this recipe I've finally found something I'm satisfied with. All my previous attempts weren't nearly as successful as this. I could finally put that lingering obsession to rest. :rambo: I noticed that the original VapeMOB Papa Smurf had this really yellow colour to it. Some of my earlier attempts even turned out purple (I'm looking at you LA Blueberry!). I say 6-8% HS Blueberry because at 6% it didn't have that in your face Papa Smurf colour and wasn't nearly as yellow as the original. I mixed up another bottle and turned the blueberry up to 8%. It was by then yellow enough. Even with a 5% recommended solo mix of HS Blueberry at 8% you get that "aah.. f*ck.. how am I getting this out of my tank" that you love from the original.

So if you've had the same journey I encourage you to try this recipe so that you too can be released from the obsession. I'm not saying this is 100% identical, and it's certainly not, but it was my remedy. Sorry for this long post but I felt that I had to share the experience. In my opinion, Papa Smurf was an attempt at cloning Space Jam Andromeda with replacing the original TFA Blueberry Extra with HS Blueberry, but that's my thoughts. :wondering: Let me know what you guys think.

- As a side note, I also want to thank the team at Black Vapour. They really have good service, after a mixup with my order I sent them an email. Almost as soon as I hit send they immediately replied with a solution. Also thanks to @DanielSLP for the Berry Blendz recipe, it really assured me that I was on the right path!
 
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