DIY is King, even on the BIG mountain

[Soutie]

I'll give HIC this, he has a lot of simple recipes. They have been hit and miss for me though but the are all pretty good value for money.

I also agree that simpler is better on occasion. Sure you want the depth and complexity, but a lot of the concentrates coming out now days have their own complexity so you really don't need 10 flavours to have a recipe be yum, and it's easy to have those flavours detract or even get lost in the final product.

 

[Effjh]

I mixed up all of Wayne's Strawberry recipes and, despite him using way more ingredients and accents and layers and whatnot, none of them worked as well for me as this one. That might cause top mixers to be aghast but I can only be honest. My palate is not nearly as refined as Wayne's. He is doing things that don't register for me, and this simpler one works better imho.

I think the gear one uses to vape on plays a bigger part than we realise in how we perceive flavours. Is it possible that the atty's/tempreture/builds etc that he vapes on gives a better representation of what he tried to achieve with his recipes than what you might experience on your personally preferred set up?

I know for me personally, I enjoy certain flavours more in certain set ups and some provide a more "open" experience (can taste and identify all the different notes), while others give a more "focussed" experience (main profiles and flavour intensity).

 

[RichJB]

Yes, that's a good point, @Effjh. I did initially do a lot of temp testing and fiddling around to see what I could get out of my various atties. My final choices might not give the best flavour representations but they are the easiest and most comfortable for me to vape.

I might have given the impression that I am unhappy with some juices. I'm not. Bronuts and all Wayne's other juices have been fine for me, I'll vape them no problem and they're tasty. It's just that they don't do anything more for me than the simpler and less heralded recipes.

I've always had a poor sense of smell/taste. I watch Vaping Bogan's reviews where he cracks open a frostie and says "Oooh, subtle notes of chocolate and maybe a bit of vanilla in the background there". And I know darn well that if I drank the same beer, it would just taste like most other lagers to me. I can't detect notes like that.

It's both a curse and a blessing. It means I'll never be a connoisseur of wine or food or vape juices or anything else. But it also means I'm not fussy. I eat whatever is put in front of me, and never have problems with taste. I read about other people's experiences with throat hit and peppery nic and sinuses and heartburn and Lord knows what else and I've never had anything like that. Due to my leaden senses, I miss the best of what vaping offers. But I also miss the worst. Really pungent perfumey concentrates are the only thing that has ever bothered me in vaping.

 

[Daniel]

Time to revisit this DIY thing... Simple two flavour recipes seems the way to go what's a good Menthol vape taking note not a huge fan of menthol but think strawberry and menthol might work....

 

[Lord Vetinari]

DIY for ADV, a bottle of something different as a treat or just a change. Odd import here and there back when I could find Witchers Brew's Blackbird.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

I have 108 concentrates now but I'm starting to slow down and become a lot more selective in what I make. Fortunately I jumped on the HIC bandwagon very early and most of my concentrates are from FA. That is great because I can make almost everything that HIC and Shaner concoct. And FA can be used for almost anything else as well.

I almost jumped on the Wayne bandwagon too but I've reined myself in. He just has too many once-off flavours. Sorry Wayne but I'm not buying FW Creme de Menthe to make Cuprian - because Cuprian is the only top recipe I've seen that uses it. Apple Buttah which won his mixing competition uses Cap Butter Cream which I will never use in anything but Apple Buttah. NotCharlesManson has a Funfetti clone that uses FW Cake Batter Dip. Again, I'll never use that in anything else so I'll give it a miss. I think one has to be a bit ruthless in order to preserve one's sanity.

Oh give CAP Butter Cream a go you will really like it. I use it instead of Bavarian Cream if there is any kind of crust or bakery kind of element it deepens the texture a little and does not leave that sligjtly dry after taste Bavarian Cream does. The butter note is very mellow and quite useful. It makes for some REALLY nice smelling juices also I dig the smell a lot. Maybe not the best pairing with fruits but you wont waste money on trying a 10ml.

 

[Strontium]

The prices of juices is beyond ludicrous, I get that everyone needs to make a profit but still. I try diy most of my juices but do have one supplier that I buy from fairly regularly but he is three times cheaper than all the other guys and his stuff is top notch so far.

 

[Rob Fisher]

That's the beauty of the free market system... we are free to choose!