Hey @Clouds4Days did you actually add Almond in your recipe? If you have please share your recipe wiff me preez. If it's a secret - are you coming to the JHB Vape Meet, I would like to try some, and if I like I'll buy some. I have failed twice trying to make an almond+milk vape, my stuff tastes like sand and I try push past the taste, but can't and flush the joose.
DIY juice vs Commercial juice
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Hey @Clouds4Days did you actually add Almond in your recipe? If you have please share your recipe wiff me preez. If it's a secret - are you coming to the JHB Vape Meet, I would like to try some, and if I like I'll buy some. I have failed twice trying to make an almond+milk vape, my stuff tastes like sand and I try push past the taste, but can't and flush the joose.
Ya but I think what is being portrayed here, is when a label sells something off as their own.
They say," we added a pinch of Strawberry and a dash of this..."
No you didn't, you got the recipe off the net.
I could also pass off Gremlin Juice's Thrashberry for example as my own. From the initial recipe, I tailored it to my liking. Small changes make a big difference.
I also don't really have an issue with people selling clones per say - I mean half these juices we can't even get here. But to take someone else's design and call it completely your own, well that I don't know so much.
But then again, this is debatable - if I did take your recipe and tweak and changed it a bit to form something different - is that not now "my own"? This subject can be viewed from various angles.
Sticky topic indeed. If I consider it deeply I feel that it would be appropriate to obtain permission to make a clone if it is for commercial purposes.
Then again that just might make it very expensive, having to pay royalties in dollars.
The plot indeed thickens
Oh absolutely, if you obtain permission, sell away. That's just business.
What Method1 does with DiyorDie - brilliant.
You are going to have to inform this lost noob of what the above means lol... still swimming in the vastness that is the Vaping community
Extremely unlikely that it would ever be a 1:1 clone (unless you got hold of the maker's recipe in some way). At most it is an interpretation of the original. And, as I have said before, our supermarket shelves are full of such interpretations. I have no problem with them at all. I see no legal or even moral rights being contravened.
Indeed this is a very good point. And I agree it is the bottom line. Needs to be a 1:1 clone to really step on toes far as intellectual property is concerned.
I still like thinking of the clones like I do a good cover band. A very good time at a very good price. Makes sense to me especially as I justified my first mod setup by thinking I was going to save money on cigarettes. I feel a lot better but I havent saved at all lol...
There is cloning - where you taste a commercial juice and go.. hmm I think I can make this, and proceed to work it out, that's something of a skill in itself - and then there's taking a well known recipe from a well know DIYer - and passing it off as your own, minor tweaks or not, with no credit or permission from the originator - this is just not cool.
There are people actively giving of themselves to the community and they deserve to profit too if someone is going to be commercialising a product that is strongly derivative of their original work.
This idea theft discourages the DIY scene & also damages the credibility of the brand when uncovered.
Recently had a local juice that is a pretty straight rip of a well known recipe by one of the DIY celebs, even the description of the flavour profile is the same, no credit given or permission asked - really pissed me off.
There are people actively giving of themselves to the community and they deserve to profit too if someone is going to be commercialising a product that is strongly derivative of their original work.
This idea theft discourages the DIY scene & also damages the credibility of the brand when uncovered.
Recently had a local juice that is a pretty straight rip of a well known recipe by one of the DIY celebs, even the description of the flavour profile is the same, no credit given or permission asked - really pissed me off.
Mr. Hardwicks (@method1) colaborated and payed for the rights to certain recipes from the famous Diy or Die www.diyordievaping.com
I've never known how I feel, moraly about this.
On the one hand, if it's found on the open internet, then its fair game.
BUT I see folks on Reddit freaking out all the time, because someone is selling a recipe of theirs, which they only shared for personal consumption
Hi guys, think this would be the best place to ask this question. I have been vaping my own juice for the past 4 months. I got various recipes from the internet and I am loving every minute of the journey so far 
. But I found myself thinking what the "premium" juice makers do differently to make their juices taste great? I have 1 recipe that is already on V4 and now it's starting to get where I want it to be. But still not 100% there. Any idea what methods etc one could start using to get the juice to that level?
. But I found myself thinking what the "premium" juice makers do differently to make their juices taste great? I have 1 recipe that is already on V4 and now it's starting to get where I want it to be. But still not 100% there. Any idea what methods etc one could start using to get the juice to that level?
My own juice exclusively, unless im trying someones DIY (a DIY swop thread would be awesome?) or was given a freebie, personally I find commercial juice way over priced/flavored, but that might just be my unpopular opinion 
I do not think they do much differently than you do. The good mixologists probably know many concentrates intimately and have an almost instinctive feeling of what can work and then they go from V1 to V20 to .... and get it if lucky. The recipes from commercial juices, which were released, are no different from the recipes you find in any DIY community, but they just work. Of course, they have to make what will sell, which takes out many unique creations. Even so, some will love some will not. One of the strong points of DIY is that you can take a good recipe and adapt it to your personal preferences, which the commercial mixologist cannot do - he or she has to cater to the middle majority to be successful.Hi guys, think this would be the best place to ask this question. I have been vaping my own juice for the past 4 months. I got various recipes from the internet and I am loving every minute of the journey so far
I only vape my own juice but seem to have taken an entirely different approach from most others. I never visit juice sites and am completely uninterested in other people's recipes, whether commercial or DIY. The only "help" I got was to download the TFA spreadsheet which recommends the ideal % of the various flavours. Considering that some flavours require only a few drops in 10ml whereas others need to be at 20%, I didn't want to have to do that experimenting on my own.
But other than that, it's a voyage of self-discovery. I started with single flavours, just to get an idea of what the base flavour offers. Next I'll start mixing some together. I might arrive at some mixes that are similar to existing hit flavours, I might come up with my own concoctions which are completely unique. But either way, they will all be mine. If I get a few duds (or even many duds) along the way, that just increases the fun.
I have yet to mix anything that was unvapeable. But then, I was taught to eat what was put in front of me and be thankful. That's how it was when I were a lad. I remember vaping as we marched towards Berlin in 1945. None of them fancy fused Claptons back then. We had to twist our own coils by hand from the shrapnel of German shells exploding near us. You try getting TCR values for depleted uranium when you're pinned down in a foxhole without wi-fi. No bottled flavour concentrates either, we had to mash up boiled turnips and carrots. VG was an unheard of luxury, the govt needed it all to make smoke grenades. So we used the gearbox oil from destroyed Panzer tanks instead. And none of this fancy organic cotton from Japan either. We had to cut up our woollen army socks for wicking. Flavour for days. Waste not, want not, that's my motto. I remember we liberated one small Belgian village. The vape bar was the only building left standing but there was a German MG42 post inside, so I took a box of Chinese 18650 clones and... *drones on interminably in old-fartish manner*
But other than that, it's a voyage of self-discovery. I started with single flavours, just to get an idea of what the base flavour offers. Next I'll start mixing some together. I might arrive at some mixes that are similar to existing hit flavours, I might come up with my own concoctions which are completely unique. But either way, they will all be mine. If I get a few duds (or even many duds) along the way, that just increases the fun.
I have yet to mix anything that was unvapeable. But then, I was taught to eat what was put in front of me and be thankful. That's how it was when I were a lad. I remember vaping as we marched towards Berlin in 1945. None of them fancy fused Claptons back then. We had to twist our own coils by hand from the shrapnel of German shells exploding near us. You try getting TCR values for depleted uranium when you're pinned down in a foxhole without wi-fi. No bottled flavour concentrates either, we had to mash up boiled turnips and carrots. VG was an unheard of luxury, the govt needed it all to make smoke grenades. So we used the gearbox oil from destroyed Panzer tanks instead. And none of this fancy organic cotton from Japan either. We had to cut up our woollen army socks for wicking. Flavour for days. Waste not, want not, that's my motto. I remember we liberated one small Belgian village. The vape bar was the only building left standing but there was a German MG42 post inside, so I took a box of Chinese 18650 clones and... *drones on interminably in old-fartish manner*
I've managed to create two that I like. I use 50VG/50PG, got all my flavours and stuff from Valley Vapour. Don't know the makes off by hand, but if you're interested I can get the names for you.
Ricecrunchies - based on my ADV juice Milked, but I don't have cash to buy 300ml a month
6% Milk (Flavor West)
3% Rice Crunchies (Flavor Apprentice)
3% toasted marshmallow (Flavor Apprentice) - they didn't have normal marshmellow in stock at the time, so I settled.
and Frootloops:
6% Milk (Flavor West)
4% Fruit Rings (Flavor West)
2% Sweetener (Flavor Apprentice)
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Yes, please edit to give us the flavour brands.
so so so gonna mix this
Let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions on improving it! I'm still new in DIY and these were the first two I've made.
I am also quite new at this and only mix one to two flavors but will let you know what I think for sure... once payday has come that is
If you smoke juice, then you're doing something wrong. It should be vaped, not smoked
If you smoke juice, then you're doing something wrong. It should be vaped, not smoked
haha jaja
was wondering why the juice was boiling and not vaporizing
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