DIY Tobacco Recipes

Catching up on Beginner Blending tonight, I heard recommendations for three flavours that are staples in the tobacco field:

* Flv Flue Cured, which several peeps on ELR have said is the best tobacco ever
* Cap Vanilla Custard v2
* Flv Milk and Honey

I have the Cap VC2 already and wouldn't mind getting the two Flv flavours if they're good. But they'll be costly mistakes if they aren't good. Anybody have any experience with them?
 
RichJB said:
Catching up on Beginner Blending tonight, I heard recommendations for three flavours that are staples in the tobacco field:

* Flv Flue Cured, which several peeps on ELR have said is the best tobacco ever
* Cap Vanilla Custard v2
* Flv Milk and Honey

I have the Cap VC2 already and wouldn't mind getting the two Flv flavours if they're good. But they'll be costly mistakes if they aren't good. Anybody have any experience with them?
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I have none of the above, but spoke to a member who has vaped and liked FLV Flue Cured standalone for some time. He stopped using it because it gunks coils very quickly. Also, like most FLV tobaccos apparently, it fades rather quickly - so make, short steep and vape.
 
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Thanks, one of the ELR folks also said it tended to fade. Considering that my average steeping time is now two months, and combined with the coil gunking, I think I'll give it a miss. Even if it's a good tobacco, there are many others - at almost half the price too. Flv will need to offer something unique or really, really good to attract me at that price. I think I'll still get the Milk and Honey because it's used in several top recipes and is a somewhat unique flavour that can't be subbed/replicated easily.

I'll also be interested to try the Cap VC2 and see what that adds to tobacco. Despite V1 being far more popular generally, Vurve was insistent that it's V2 that works really well with tobacco. I'm not sure why V2 specifically would be so special but I'll give it a try.
 
Apropos fading, I have a small confession.

On 16/10/2014 I bought a 40ml bottle of Poison Elite from the then Subohmvaping. 18MG. It was an amazing tobacco vape but over time I cut down on nic and preferred more bakery/fruity flavours. I would pull it from its recess every month or so just for a drip and then carefully put it away again. I always had the vague intention of giving it to @Silver knowing that it might be his bag. When I got into tobacco DIY I always used it as a measure to test my attempts. I probably last tested it about 3 months ago. It was still rocking. And then one late, drink infested Christmas night I retrieved it for a little special treat. Dead, nothing there - aroma, flavour all had vanished.

Apparently two years is too long, even for robust tobaccos. So, sorry @Silver good intentions if not acted on, are useless. Here's a pic as a pathetic consolation.
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Thanks for thinking of me @Patrick

I did love that juice and also got one or two bottles from Subohm vapour back in the day ;-)
Reviewed it here

Was a glorious juice. So long Poison Elite ;-)
 
Silver said:
Thanks for thinking of me @Patrick

I did love that juice and also got one or two bottles from Subohm vapour back in the day ;-)
Reviewed it here

Was a glorious juice. So long Poison Elite ;-)
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Great review. It was exactly that changing note that I so liked about it. Would be an interesting challenge to try and nail down a fair clone even though it must have been NET based. @Andre ?
 
Patrick said:
Apropos fading, I have a small confession.

On 16/10/2014 I bought a 40ml bottle of Poison Elite from the then Subohmvaping. 18MG. It was an amazing tobacco vape but over time I cut down on nic and preferred more bakery/fruity flavours. I would pull it from its recess every month or so just for a drip and then carefully put it away again. I always had the vague intention of giving it to @Silver knowing that it might be his bag. When I got into tobacco DIY I always used it as a measure to test my attempts. I probably last tested it about 3 months ago. It was still rocking. And then one late, drink infested Christmas night I retrieved it for a little special treat. Dead, nothing there - aroma, flavour all had vanished.

Apparently two years is too long, even for robust tobaccos. So, sorry @Silver good intentions if not acted on, are useless. Here's a pic as a pathetic consolation.
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Patrick said:
Great review. It was exactly that changing note that I so liked about it. Would be an interesting challenge to try and nail down a fair clone even though it must have been NET based. @Andre ?
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Oh my, I still have an almost full bottle of 18 mg Poison Elite! Better start vaping it.

As to cloning NET Tobaccos - above my pay grade @Patrick. Shall leave it in your expert hands! That said, your Gitanes homage is more than close enough for me.

Edit: Forgot to add the picture of the Poison.
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Andre said:
Oh my, I still have an almost full bottle of 18 mg Poison Elite! Better start vaping it.

As to cloning NET Tobaccos - above my pay grade @Patrick. Shall leave it in your expert hands! That said, your Gitanes homage is more than close enough for me.
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Thanks for the kind words, but also beyond me. However, I think that with some of the really good concentrates coming onto the market, it should be possible to get close without going the NET route. Based on aroma alone, I think that FLV's Red Burley could be a decent starting point.
 
Patrick said:
Thanks for the kind words, but also beyond me. However, I think that with some of the really good concentrates coming onto the market, it should be possible to get close without going the NET route. Based on aroma alone, I think that FLV's Red Burley could be a decent starting point.
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You clearly have it in hand!
I had a small taste of FLV Red Burley as standalone at 5%. Initial impressions - dry and earthy, with a perfumy note I do not like. Problem with the FLV tobaccos is that, according to many reports, they tend to fade very quickly.
 
Andre said:
You clearly have it in hand!
I had a small taste of FLV Red Burley as standalone at 5%. Initial impressions - dry and earthy, with a perfumy note I do not like. Problem with the FLV tobaccos is that, according to many reports, they tend to fade very quickly.
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Maybe when you crack Poison again, you could update your review based on your 2016 experience with DIY tobacco concentrates?
 
@Andre how does that INW Dark Tobacco compare with INW Dirty Neutral Base?
From what I have found through the web:-
Dark Tobacco - used to aromatise UNIVERSAL base
DNB - adds some of the flavors and aromas of a real cigarette

Looking to try your AM4A+
Just wondering how they compare because I don't have INW Dark Tobacco. As far as I know it is only you and VV that have :--)
 
GregF said:
@Andre how does that INW Dark Tobacco compare with INW Dirty Neutral Base?
From what I have found through the web:-
Dark Tobacco - used to aromatise UNIVERSAL base
DNB - adds some of the flavors and aromas of a real cigarette

Looking to try your AM4A+
Just wondering how they compare because I don't have INW Dark Tobacco. As far as I know it is only you and VV that have :--)
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I have had a quick taste of my new mix of AM4A+. I also tried AM4A as standalone. Love the spirituous (Cognac?) character, but it is far too sweet for me. Adding INW Dark Tobacco did not help, to the contrary. Bitter Wizard also did not have the impact I required. So back to the drawing board, but I shall persist as the base of AM4A is just awesome for me.

To answer your question, Dark Tobacco certainly is dark, but also sweet and aromatic. In hindsight not the ideal addition to AM4A. DNB is far less sweet and neutral and will probably be a better addition.

I need to find a very dry tobacco to add, maybe Virginia and/or Burley. Suggestions are welcome.
 
@Andre I want to try these seperatly with AM4A when I get a chance
FW Ankara - Dark, bitter
FW Latakia - Not as sweet as FA Latakia
 
@Andre you can try @Viper_SA 3 Musketeers -D'Artagnan
It has AM4A and FW Latakia in it and I quite like it, although it must still steep a bit.
 
It's been a while since this thread was bumped up, so I thought I'd share a recipe that I've recently fallen in love with :hearteyes:

This comes from SadPandaVapes and is called...

Apple-Bacco
6% FW Butterscotch Ripple
1.5% FA Fuji Apple
3.5% TPA RY4 Double
3% CAP Vanilla Custard v1
1% TPA Ethyl Maltol (Optional)

1 week steep.

I don't often vape just one juice, but I burnt through 30mls of this in less than a week - and I was mainly dripping too! There's just something warm and smokey on the exhale here, with delicious hints of apple and caramel that blend together so well. It really seemed to satisfy my craving for a tobacco vape.

EM removes the dryness of the vape, but I quite enjoyed it without. Also, I didn't want to sweeten the juice further as I felt with the main ingredients it would be more than sweet enough.
 
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Huffapuff said:
It's been a while since this thread was bumped up, so I thought I'd share a recipe that I've recently fallen in love with :hearteyes:

This comes from SadPandaVapes and is called...

Apple-Bacco
6% FW Butterscotch Ripple
1.5% FA Fuji Apple
3.5% TPA RY4 Double
3% CAP Vanilla Custard v1
1% TPA Ethyl Maltol (Optional)

I don't often vape just one juice, but I burnt through 30mls of this in less than a week - and I was mainly dripping too! There's just something warm and smokey on the exhale here, with delicious hints of apple and caramel that blend together so well. It really seemed to satisfy my craving for a tobacco vape.

EM removes the dryness of the vape, but I quite enjoyed it without. Also, I didn't want to sweeten the juice further as I felt with the main ingredients it would be more than sweet enough.
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Looks like a goodie!!! No reference on the recommended steep anywhere - what's the best steep time for this one?
 
Huffapuff said:
It's been a while since this thread was bumped up, so I thought I'd share a recipe that I've recently fallen in love with :hearteyes:

This comes from SadPandaVapes and is called...

Apple-Bacco
6% FW Butterscotch Ripple
1.5% FA Fuji Apple
3.5% TPA RY4 Double
3% CAP Vanilla Custard v1
1% TPA Ethyl Maltol (Optional)

I don't often vape just one juice, but I burnt through 30mls of this in less than a week - and I was mainly dripping too! There's just something warm and smokey on the exhale here, with delicious hints of apple and caramel that blend together so well. It really seemed to satisfy my craving for a tobacco vape.

EM removes the dryness of the vape, but I quite enjoyed it without. Also, I didn't want to sweeten the juice further as I felt with the main ingredients it would be more than sweet enough.
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You are right @Huffapuff it has been a bit quiet in here. I have a whole horde of tobacco recipes that have kept me out of mischief for a while.
 
GregF said:
You are right @Huffapuff it has been a bit quiet in here. I have a whole horde of tobacco recipes that have kept me out of mischief for a while.
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I've also been working my way through my stocks :grins: This was one of the recipes I finally got around to making recently and I'm so glad I did - can't believe I didn't make it sooner!
 
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