What's frustrating for me is that I've been vaping since April this year, and still not easy to vape first thing. But will try the VG based for sure.
Early morning Vape
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I definitely do more in the mornings during the week, I do house chores before I start working, which I don't do early on the weekend, so I think that also plays a role.
I thought that by now I would hate the smell of smoke, but I still love the smell and it makes me crave so badly. But just have to hang in there...
I know, it makes you crave a smoke yet having one and its terrible...lol!
ive never liked the smell of smoke. especially on my hands. but the actual action of smoking. that was an addiction.
I LOVED the smell of smoke on my hands - especially during exams in high school and varsity when I couldn't get out to smoke, liked it so much I almost wanted to suck the nicotine right off my fingers.
I can't vape 100% VG gives me the elephant standing on my chest feeling. Have you tried a strong menthol?
I used to have this problem n my body refused to fully wake up unless j had a smoke. Wouldn't matter if I woke up late or early. Also had this feeling that I couldn't get my morning "movements" done unless I had a smoke.
After coughing for a week each morning my gf suggested I try a mint flavour cause she found it smoother that the fruity stuff and was the only thing she could Vape when she first started.
I had a spare atomizer so I kept that on my cheapie battery next to my bed as my spinner would charge overnight, I'd wake up and Vape on that in the morning which suprisingly stopped the coughing fit if have.
Took about 2weeks for my body to get used to that and now I wake up n can Vape anything at full power ?
After coughing for a week each morning my gf suggested I try a mint flavour cause she found it smoother that the fruity stuff and was the only thing she could Vape when she first started.
I had a spare atomizer so I kept that on my cheapie battery next to my bed as my spinner would charge overnight, I'd wake up and Vape on that in the morning which suprisingly stopped the coughing fit if have.
Took about 2weeks for my body to get used to that and now I wake up n can Vape anything at full power ?
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I think the problem lies in the fact that some of the 7000 chems in tobacco products actualy have a numbing effect on the human body, it is after all part of the nightshade family. Obviously vaping has none of that. In my opinion, since pg is a humectant it might even worsen the symptoms because its sucking water out of your lungs. I dont have a sollution to your prob but maby try less pg.
I'm the same, I have to have a smoke almost first thing - during the week I have my first smoke half an hour after waking up. On weekends I get up later but still can't vape after waking up.
I have tried menthol in the morning, but think I should try it again, I tried it quite a while back and then I was smoking more during the day. Now I'm down to 2 a day (so close to stopping).
I can imagine it taking a while to get used to it, think i just have to keep trying and pushing through and hopefully like you that you eventually get used to it that its not a problem! I can't wait to be cigarette free!!
Thanks so much for the info
Thanks so much, I was wondering if I was the only one with this problem, till reading others have also gone through this too, really so helpful!
Yeah true, alot of chems in stinky's!! Maybe my body is also adjusting to cutting down drastically on smokes and needs to get used to it. I'm actually starting to taste my food again...lol!! I tried 30% pg, might need to try even less. I've tried so many ways to stop smoking over the years and up to date vaping is the only thing that is working perfectly! Haven't had a smoke since 6:30 am today and don't even feel jittery.I think the problem lies in the fact that some of the 7000 chems in tobacco products actualy have a numbing effect on the human body, it is after all part of the nightshade family. Obviously vaping has none of that. In my opinion, since pg is a humectant it might even worsen the symptoms because its sucking water out of your lungs. I dont have a sollution to your prob but maby try less pg.
Hi @debslouw
Firstly, I want to congratulate you on your amazing achievement! To go from 25 smokes a day to 2 is really something to be proud of. Just think of how much less harm you are doing on 2 smokes versus 25!
Well done
Each person is different and I think so is their transition to 100% vaping.
If I understand you correctly, you say you can't vape in the early morning and thats when you have 2 smokes - with your coffee. But you say it's because your chest is tight from the vaping.
May I ask you the following:
- What juices are you vaping that you find your chest is tight on? Is it one particular juice? or many kinds?
- I assume this is happening (tight chest) on the Nautilus/IPV at 11 Watts?
I also find that first thing in the morning I don't like my Reo setups - those first few vapes with coffee I feel more comfortable with my humble EVOD1 at about 7 watts - and a fruity vape. Too much throat hit is not for me first thing in the morning. Later on in the morning and for the rest of the day I love my throat hit.
I myself don't suffer from a tight chest problem when vaping - but I have noticed that some juices give me a tighter feeling chest than others. Maybe not so much the chest but rather that the airways and my throat feel like they are being blocked slightly. It is not painful but slightly uncomfortable. I cannot figure out what it is - but perhaps some flavours in the juices give that while others don't. For example, Peach Rooibos from VM gives me a slightly tighter feeling whereas VM Choc Mint or VM Strawberry doesn't. (all from the same manufacturer, in this case Vapour Mountain).
As a suggestion, why don't you try get an EVOD1 or something similar and try cut down your morning smokes from 2 cigs to 1 cig. So have 1 cig with your coffee and then instead of another cig, try the EVOD1 or something similar at lower power.
Going from 2 cigs to 1 cig is halving your smoking and would be another great achievement. Even if you maintain this 1 cig for another few months, you will have done very well. And who knows, you may be able to drop it altogether if you get the right juice.
Let us know how it goes...
Keep strong...
Firstly, I want to congratulate you on your amazing achievement! To go from 25 smokes a day to 2 is really something to be proud of. Just think of how much less harm you are doing on 2 smokes versus 25!
Well done
Each person is different and I think so is their transition to 100% vaping.
If I understand you correctly, you say you can't vape in the early morning and thats when you have 2 smokes - with your coffee. But you say it's because your chest is tight from the vaping.
May I ask you the following:
- What juices are you vaping that you find your chest is tight on? Is it one particular juice? or many kinds?
- I assume this is happening (tight chest) on the Nautilus/IPV at 11 Watts?
I also find that first thing in the morning I don't like my Reo setups - those first few vapes with coffee I feel more comfortable with my humble EVOD1 at about 7 watts - and a fruity vape. Too much throat hit is not for me first thing in the morning. Later on in the morning and for the rest of the day I love my throat hit.
I myself don't suffer from a tight chest problem when vaping - but I have noticed that some juices give me a tighter feeling chest than others. Maybe not so much the chest but rather that the airways and my throat feel like they are being blocked slightly. It is not painful but slightly uncomfortable. I cannot figure out what it is - but perhaps some flavours in the juices give that while others don't. For example, Peach Rooibos from VM gives me a slightly tighter feeling whereas VM Choc Mint or VM Strawberry doesn't. (all from the same manufacturer, in this case Vapour Mountain).
As a suggestion, why don't you try get an EVOD1 or something similar and try cut down your morning smokes from 2 cigs to 1 cig. So have 1 cig with your coffee and then instead of another cig, try the EVOD1 or something similar at lower power.
Going from 2 cigs to 1 cig is halving your smoking and would be another great achievement. Even if you maintain this 1 cig for another few months, you will have done very well. And who knows, you may be able to drop it altogether if you get the right juice.
Let us know how it goes...
Keep strong...
@debslouw
I forgot to mention in my post above -
I wonder why your chest finds it okay to smoke a normal cig in the morning but not vape?
What cigs are you smoking?
Maybe you just wake up in the morning with a tighter chest and it takes time for it to ease up during the day.
I wonder what would happen if you took in 10 deep slow breaths - or did some jogging on the spot to open it up?
Maybe then the vaping wouldn't feel so tight...
I forgot to mention in my post above -
I wonder why your chest finds it okay to smoke a normal cig in the morning but not vape?
What cigs are you smoking?
Maybe you just wake up in the morning with a tighter chest and it takes time for it to ease up during the day.
I wonder what would happen if you took in 10 deep slow breaths - or did some jogging on the spot to open it up?
Maybe then the vaping wouldn't feel so tight...
Thank you so much @Silver , really appreciate the compliment
I'm trying really hard and getting so very close to stop smoking completely and can't wait! @bwbwings is also down to 2 a day from 25.These are the juices I've tried in the morning:
1) "Devil in Disguise: from Craft Vapour 18mg
2) "Honey Badger" from Craft Vapour 18mg
3) "Watermelon flavour" from Liqua 8mg
4) Tried a self made mixture of 70%pg & 30%vg coconut flavour 6mg
5) Tried self made menthol with 50% pg & 50% vg - 12mg
The mods I've tried are:
1) IPV2 at 10 watts
2) Sigelei at 10 watts
3) eSmart
4) Ego C-twist @ 3.5 volts
The tanks I've tried are:
1) Nautilus mini - on the smallest hole
2) Mini protank 2
3) Evod 2
4) eSmart tank
5) iClear 16d
Shoo, didn't realise how many different things I've tried till I just listed them - hehehe
Thank you so much, I'm definitely going to try to go to just one and hopefully soon none.
I'm hoping something works so I then I don't need a smoke in the morning and can rather vape, that is my aim because then I won't need to smoke at all!
@Silver I can't understand either why its okay with a smoke but not a vape, I checked my smokes are 6mg and have tried 6mg juice but it doesn't work. I'm smoking Peter Stuyvesant Silver (6mg).
Its ironic that you mention that, @bwbwings was telling me that earlier today that I should try and take deep breaths when I wake up.
So will definitely give that a try as well as jogging on the spot too.
I can't wait for tomorrow morning to try it out and see what happens and hoping and holding thumbs that it works that I can vape in the morning.
I get up at 5am and at one stage I could only vape from 9am then slowly got earlier and earlier, now I can vape from between 6:30 - 7am.
But still not between 5 - 5:30 am when I have my coffee. But hope tomorrow I can vape then.
Strangely enough when I first tried some of Craft Vapours jooses some months ago, they gave a tight feeling in the chest. Have just recently found them again and gave them another go in the mAN - found them incredibly well crafted jooses and no chest problems at all.
More to the point, agree with @Silver cutting down to 2 smokes a day is a huge accomplishment. So, do not stress and give yourself ample time to try all the tips you have received - not all in one morning.
More to the point, agree with @Silver cutting down to 2 smokes a day is a huge accomplishment. So, do not stress and give yourself ample time to try all the tips you have received - not all in one morning
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Ok, this is interesting
I haven't tried any of those first three.
But what I will say is that Craft Vapour's juices that I have tried (Melon on the Rocks and Pining Juliette) do have quite a strong kick and throat hit from the coolness in the flavour. Not sure what Devil in Disguise and Honey Badger have (I doubt that coolness additive though).
As far as Liqua goes, I don't vape them anymore - but from what I did recall a few of their flavours gave me that sharp uncomfortable feeling and slight tightness that I referred to in my previous post. Maybe they were higher in PG, not sure. Not sure about their Watermelon but it may not be agreeing with you.
I think you should try at least two or three other juices from other brands. Preferably something quite smooth and not with much throat hit. If they also make you feel tight chested then it could be the PG/VG ratio. But give a few others a try first. You could also make yourself an unflavoured juice DIY. Adding menthol tends to increase the throat hit and make the vape a bit more intense.
As for equipment, try the mPT2 (single coil tank) with any of your mods - at about 7 Watts or thereabouts.
Go for it - keep trying - I am sure you will find a setup that works for you in the morning
Strangely enough when I first tried some of Craft Vapours jooses some months ago, they gave a tight feeling in the chest. Have just recently found them again and gave them another go in the mAN - found them incredibly well crafted jooses and no chest problems at all.
More to the point, agree with @Silver cutting down to 2 smokes a day is a huge accomplishment. So, do not stress and give yourself ample time to try all the tips you have received - not all in one morning
@Andre - I agree - I absolutely love craft vapour's juices. Have been vaping one of their new flavours "Devil in Disguise" and its so awesome, can't get enough of it.
I've tried many different juices and still have a tight chest in the morning. but think it will get better over time, as the time I can vape has gone from 9am to 6:30am.
Thanks so much for the compliment, really appreciate it!
Hehehe yeah might try different things over a few days
You see what doesn't make sense to me is that you say you get this tightness of chest in the morning. But for the rest of the day, you have no problem vaping.
If you were vaping juices that give you a tight chest or were problematic for you, you would experience those problems at other times too.
So this tells me that it's something about you, not necessarily the vaping juices or gear.
Maybe your body is so used to the smoking that you manage that quite easily. But because the vaping is something new, your body has a problem with it in the morning, when perhaps your chest is tight just after you wake up.
Maybe @DoC has some pearls of wisdom to share for someone who wakes up with a tight chest and finds they can't easily vape but they can have a real cigarette. But then later in the day, they can vape without a problem.
I have this problem too, to some degree - but it's getting better with time.
What I do is to just keep having coffee (or any other fluids) with small puffs of vape between them, until I feel comfortable with the vaping...and then it's full steam ahead (pun inteded)
This has kept me from smoking in the morning.
I'm sure you will get there eventually, as you genuinely seem to be trying everything, well done so far
What I do is to just keep having coffee (or any other fluids) with small puffs of vape between them, until I feel comfortable with the vaping...and then it's full steam ahead (pun inteded)
This has kept me from smoking in the morning.
I'm sure you will get there eventually, as you genuinely seem to be trying everything, well done so far
@Silver Thank you so much for all your help, really appreciate it so much!
I think I will try some other flavours from other makes, or as you said will maybe try unflavoured juice.
My ADV is the "Devil in Disguise" - the flavours in it are: "Layers of smooth vanilla cheesecake topped with juicy pear and finished with a hint of coconut biscuit crust"
Will definitely keep trying - will not give up! It makes it easier with all the advice and support!
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