Eleaf istick Pico

Vape0206 said:
How does the avo 22 compare to these tanks when it comes to performance, juice consumption and how easy it is to rebuild

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I have not tried out the avo 22 before but i have heard its a bit of a mission to refill compared to the 24.
As for coiling and wicking works the same as the 24 - coiling is simple with the velocity style deck.
Wicking is also simple, trick is too not have the cotton tails long, it should basically just go throuh the wick holes and stop.
I have heard flavour is very good on it too.

But i wouldnt stick a avo on the pico but thats just my ocd. I hate having a tank thats the same size as a mod. For me a tank should always be slightly smaller but thats just me, its not that you cant do it.
 
O yes and ive heard it drinks alot of juice too. Most tanks now a days guzzle juice.

This is also why i chose the serpent mini for the pico as its a single coil tank so shouldnt use as much juice as some of the other tanks that can take dual coils.

My Theory is if a tank takes dual coils im gonna run dual coils in it as i feel the flavour is better on dual then single.

Therom is also a single coil tank but have heard flavour is not as good as the serpent mini.

(Remember these are just my views and are only my personal opinions and guidlines
Others might suggest something else, but at the end of the day if something works for you then there is no right or wrong tank)

But one thing i am sure of is i dont think you can go wrong with the Pico. I have not heard one bad thing from this device.
 
Great writeup on the iStick Pico @Zahz
Thanks for sharing your findings!
And for putting up the pictures.

One learns something every day. You review showed me that the plus minus buttons were beneath the mod. Didnt know that. Thanks.
 
yeah 2-3ml juice not alot on serpent mini. but find myself filling just under 10 times. not my only device for a day thow.... Hard to tell how many fills, i get bored easily lol.
 
Love your setups @ErnstZA

Still deciding between black or white on the pico

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Hey all,

So I am still learning bout mods and such, so still a bit of a newbie and I have been considering the iStick Pico or perhaps the Evic Vtwo when it gets released (just because it is newer than the VTC mini, despite it being practically identical.

Anyways, I stumbled upon a review on the Pico (not sure if I am allowed to post the link to external sites / blogs?).

Anyways, here is a quote from it which I am not sure if it is something to be concerned about?

TC Test Parameter:
Ni200 0.32-2.5-7 resistance 0.10ohm 15W 400F 500F 600F
The cotton is nearly unchanged on 300’F and 400’F.
I smell a slight burnt and notice the cotton becomes yellow when the mod is on 500’F.
The cotton was burnt out on 600’F immediately.
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Seems as if the Pico burns cotton when on temp control, perhaps something which can be fixed with a firmware upgrade although has it?
Chances are most would not vape at such a high temp as well I would imagine, most do not even use TC.

The other few concerns I have had with the Pico is that I have read that the fire button quality might not be as great as on some of the other mods and that it reads coils at different resistances - it was compared to a RX200 and Evic Mini which are both Joyetech chips and I do not think a 0.15 ohm on the Joyetech mods and 0.17 ohm on the Pico is really an issue. The coil itself is still the same, just the accuracy of the chip is different.



Perhaps someone with more knowledge could provide some feedback. I really like the Pico and it is cheaper than an Evic Vtwo Mini (I imagine around the same price as the VTC Mini), however the above few points have concerned me a bit.

I do not want to purchase a mod and then later on be a bit disappointed with it.
 
Clouds4Days said:
True that bud.
Check out vape club they have the pink Samsung 3000mah and the more you buy ( up too 3) the cheaper you pay.
I bought my pico and 3 batterys from them and the batterys worked out to R155 per battery- super cheap. (And Least you have no worries on fake LG)

Here is a link.
http://www.vapeclub.co.za/products/samsung-3000-mah-inr18650-30q
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Sickboy77 said:
Are they any good? only been using turds and Sammy 25R
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I have been only using LG HG2s (two of them rotating) in my VTC (Samsung 25Rs in my RX200) since December last year and have been very happy with their performance. When I got my Pico last week and with the recent problem around fake / lower grade HG2s, I rather went for the Samsung30Q.

Although I have been primarily using the Samsung in the Pico and still the LGs in the VTC, I have swopped them around to 'compare' their performance - although this is NOT AT ALL a fair comparison since the Samsung have probably just had about enough charge cycles now to reach optimum performance, whilst both the LGs have seen their fair share of duty and whilst and will probably approach reaching significant decline in capacity not too long from now.

My IMPRESSIONS, based on this COMPLETELY UNSCIENTIFIC 'METHODOLOGY' (no methodology at all actually), would be in line with Mooch's conclusion here: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...results-theyre-still-equal-performers.727486/ that these two 18650s are roughly equal in performance - in that the Samsung (as a new, but not brand spanking new) battery has been slightly outperforming (simply in time of use between fully charged and depleted) the LG's (of course, I have no way of testing the continuous / pulse current etc, but trust Mooch for that)

Just a note on the onboard charging of the Pico - Whilst my VTC charges batteries up to 4.16V and would usually only cut off the battery somewhere midway between 3.3 and 3.4V, the Pico only charges to 4.02V and gives me a "Weak Battery" flash from around 3.47V when vaping on the Notch coil (0.27 ohms) at 45 - 50W and around 235 Celsius.

EDIT: I actually just recharged a LG HG2 onboard in the Pico and it charged it to 4.16V (after the previous three or so attempts all went to exactly 4.02V and no further). Weird....
 
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PsyCLown said:
Hey all,

So I am still learning bout mods and such, so still a bit of a newbie and I have been considering the iStick Pico or perhaps the Evic Vtwo when it gets released (just because it is newer than the VTC mini, despite it being practically identical.

Anyways, I stumbled upon a review on the Pico (not sure if I am allowed to post the link to external sites / blogs?).

Anyways, here is a quote from it which I am not sure if it is something to be concerned about?



Seems as if the Pico burns cotton when on temp control, perhaps something which can be fixed with a firmware upgrade although has it?
Chances are most would not vape at such a high temp as well I would imagine, most do not even use TC.

The other few concerns I have had with the Pico is that I have read that the fire button quality might not be as great as on some of the other mods and that it reads coils at different resistances - it was compared to a RX200 and Evic Mini which are both Joyetech chips and I do not think a 0.15 ohm on the Joyetech mods and 0.17 ohm on the Pico is really an issue. The coil itself is still the same, just the accuracy of the chip is different.



Perhaps someone with more knowledge could provide some feedback. I really like the Pico and it is cheaper than an Evic Vtwo Mini (I imagine around the same price as the VTC Mini), however the above few points have concerned me a bit.

I do not want to purchase a mod and then later on be a bit disappointed with it.
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500'F (260'C) is in the orange zone where much depends on your build and wicking material, even the juice. I have used the Theorem with SS304 and Cotton Bacon V2 at 40 W and 260'C without any problems on the Pico - it gave me ample protection and no burnt cotton at all.

At 600'F (315'C) all cotton will burn out.

Fire button - mine still works fine and feels solid, but it is relatively new. Only time will tell.

Mine reads the ohms near enough to my other mods and ohm reader to not be a concern for me.
 
I love my Pico, I got the kit so it came with the Melo III which I am not too impressed with but the mod itself is awesome, use it more than my RX simply due to the size and feel of it.

One thing to keep in mind and my only (subjective) gripe with it - but one I knew about prior to buying - is that I can't use my Crown tanks on it as the AFC ring is too wide, it's 22mm or nothing due to the battery cap.
 
PsyCLown said:
Seems as if the Pico burns cotton when on temp control, perhaps something which can be fixed with a firmware upgrade although has it?
Chances are most would not vape at such a high temp as well I would imagine, most do not even use TC.
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The big thing with TC is that it's not precise yet. My first port of call when wanting to see a review of a mod is Daniel from DJLsb. He is one of the very very few reviewers who has the ability and gear to actually test a mod's TC and power performance. He often notes that mods in TC mode are firing up to 50 degrees off the stated temp on the mod. On my mod, he found that Nickel is firing 30-40 deg lower than the mod says, while Titanium is firing around 30 degrees higher. All temps in F, incidentally.

That doesn't mean that Daniel's figures are 100% accurate. But I always find it useful to look at his figures and just be aware that the mod might not be giving you what it says it is. He has done a review on the Pico which you can find here. It seems to show much the same characteristics as my Eleaf mod, i.e. firing a bit low on Nickel and a bit high on Titanium. So that could be a function of Eleaf's TC algorithms. The SS figures are good except that when you get up to around 500F, it's firing a lot higher.

I don't care much for Daniel's presenting style, he's surely not the most articulate or interesting talker. But I'd rather watch him than some other reviewers who will tell you "It's a nice looking kit, it comes in nice packaging, you get a nice spare glass and set of O-rings, the build deck is nice to work on, the buttons are nice and clicky, it's nice and easy to refill, you get nice battery life, and the menu is nice to navigate. So yeah, it's a nice mod and is definitely my favourite. At least, until I review the next kit I'm sent, which will then become my favourite."
 
RichJB said:
The big thing with TC is that it's not precise yet. My first port of call when wanting to see a review of a mod is Daniel from DJLsb. He is one of the very very few reviewers who has the ability and gear to actually test a mod's TC and power performance. He often notes that mods in TC mode are firing up to 50 degrees off the stated temp on the mod. On my mod, he found that Nickel is firing 30-40 deg lower than the mod says, while Titanium is firing around 30 degrees higher. All temps in F, incidentally.

That doesn't mean that Daniel's figures are 100% accurate. But I always find it useful to look at his figures and just be aware that the mod might not be giving you what it says it is. He has done a review on the Pico which you can find here. It seems to show much the same characteristics as my Eleaf mod, i.e. firing a bit low on Nickel and a bit high on Titanium. So that could be a function of Eleaf's TC algorithms. The SS figures are good except that when you get up to around 500F, it's firing a lot higher.

I don't care much for Daniel's presenting style, he's surely not the most articulate or interesting talker. But I'd rather watch him than some other reviewers who will tell you "It's a nice looking kit, it comes in nice packaging, you get a nice spare glass and set of O-rings, the build deck is nice to work on, the buttons are nice and clicky, it's nice and easy to refill, you get nice battery life, and the menu is nice to navigate. So yeah, it's a nice mod and is definitely my favourite. At least, until I review the next kit I'm sent, which will then become my favourite."
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Hmm, good to know. Thats for the link!
 
Sickboy77 said:
You gonna love this little monster bud, so stoked I got one for myself last week
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Hahaha i just finished setting the tank up put it on mod and wow what awesome flavour passed it to my wife to try and now shes called dibs on the whole setup. Hahaha
Damit why did i do that...
 
Clouds4Days said:
Hahaha i just finished setting the tank up put it on mod and wow what awesome flavour passed it to my wife to try and now shes called dibs on the whole setup. Hahaha
Damit why did i do that...
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Lol bud that's what happens my wife nearly scooped my only mod I have. How's the serpent vs the standard Melo tank the pico comes with? I like the fact that the melody takes ccells

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kyle_redbull said:
Lol bud that's what happens my wife nearly scooped my only mod I have. How's the serpent vs the standard Melo tank the pico comes with? I like the fact that the melody takes ccells

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I ordered the mod only.
Im not too much of a fan of combo setups. So cant comment on the melo. But the serpent mini is flipping amazing for a single coil.
 
Clouds4Days said:
Hahaha i just finished setting the tank up put it on mod and wow what awesome flavour passed it to my wife to try and now shes called dibs on the whole setup. Hahaha
Damit why did i do that...
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Lol, that'll teach u not to pass ur toys to ur wife ;) better be ordering yourself one now :)
 
Zahz said:
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Pico looking all smart ey...
I so bad want to get a white one now after seeing uncle robs one but must resist... As i want a 213 also :)
Need the extra cash...
Is anyone looking for a room for a month i have spare, you can pay me with a sig 213 :)
Or i will come to you and wash your car every weekend for 3 months :)
 
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