To me it sounds like you have too much wick in there, either blocking the juice channels or starving the coil. If the wick is too tight going through the coil then all the fibers are compressed and juice can't flow through. You can check this if you open it up and remove the wick, if it's burnt under the coil then it a good bet that it was too tight. This is why 1.5mm ID doesn't work for me, especially with rayon, I find that 2 or 2.5mm works best.
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@Silver thanks for your impressions, always interesting to read.
Interestingly I had quite the opposite experience with the lemo drop.
As you may recall, I was very enamored of the atlantis originally, but since I got my lemo drop I have barely touched the atlantis, besides side by side comparisons using the same ohmage coil and the same juice.
I found that while the atlantis has "bigger air", which I loved, the lemo has far better flavour.
The atlantis appears "harsh" by comparison now.
My favorite configuration so far on the lemo, is 5 spaced wraps of 28 gauge around 2.5mm, with a fat rayon wick and airflow turned wide open. (works out to between 1 and 1.1 ohm)
Give this configuration a try if you play with the lemo again, it may give you a more satisfactory vape.
Just remember if you do wick with rayon to use more wick than you normally would have done with cotton. Cotton expands when you add juice to it, rayon contracts, so you need at least 30 - 50% more than a cotton wick.
Some of the cons you mention are definitely valid, however re. the airflow control, if you are OK with the airflow wide open, take a pair of tweezers and turn it open to it's fullest, hard, I found this lodges the ring open. (only valid if you are happy with the airflow wide open.)
When trapping the wire under the screws, make sure that you wind the wire around the screws in the same direction as the screw tightens, (clockwise) as this "pulls" the wire in and holds it as you tighten. If you wind the wire the opposite way around the screw, it tries to push the wire out from under the screw as you tighten.
Tiny fill port and having to empty out juice to rewick/rebuild are valid, altough even the kayfun only solves this in version 4. (which I cant wait for)
Thanks very much @Arctus - i really appreciated that advice!
I will remember that 5 wrap spaced coil and to use more Rayon. I did use quite a bit in this build. It was quite a bit tighter than i normally use for cotton. But maybe i will try more. I am not very experienced in Rayon so i appreciate the tip.
And thanks for the AFC tip. I am still not sure what airflow i will decide on. Whether i will do direct lung hits as i am doing now or whether I will prefer a mouth to lung tighter setting for this. My vaping style is now in the middle. I used to only do mouth to lung but my vaping mates are slowly trying to convert me to lung hits. And the Atlantis has opened my eyes quite a bit to lung hitting. Literally
On the issue of flavour of the Atlantis. Its different to mouth to lung. So far I have only used mentholated simple fruits in the Atlantis and i love it wide open. I get a lovely menthol crisp "burn" near the end of a long lung hit.
But what I have already noticed is that on the Lemo you only draw in to the lung quite lightly. But on the Atlantis you can pull in very hard in comparison.
All very interesting
Thanks @BumbleBee
You know what, its probably not fair for me to make folk think the Lemo doesnt have enough flavour. Its just that its different. Different to the Evod, different to the Atlantis. The flavour is there definitely, but it has an "offish" taste. Not as crisp as i like. Almost as if the menthol is not coming through as strong as Id like. But its not just that. Its like a hollowish tank taste that is not too pleasing for me. Could be that the tank needs to be used and cleaned more. I did clean it properly though.
At this point I just think its probably the difference in taste that one gets from using a different wicking material and a different device. And probably just a personal thing.
But i would like to get the Lemo to its best possible performance for my taste before I retire it.
Thanks @BumbleBee - i hear you.
at the moment its 1.8mm. I will try 2 mm next. Seems to be the diameter most happy Lemo vapers use.
PS - i know its a bit off topic here, but let me rather put it here in case i forget
I know some users of the Smok M50 were complanining that it reads the coil resistance differently to what it is
But for the record, my M50 is reading 1.1 ohms and my trusty ohm reader was reading 1.15 ohms.
So doesnt seem far out for me
I know some users of the Smok M50 were complanining that it reads the coil resistance differently to what it is
But for the record, my M50 is reading 1.1 ohms and my trusty ohm reader was reading 1.15 ohms.
So doesnt seem far out for me
@Silver 2.4mm coil works the best for me. It can be twisted or normale
TWISTED
SINGLE
Both coils i can chain vape like crazy. Never dry hit and flavor flavor!!!!!
60watts the vapor is very hot, but still no dry hit. My sweet spot is at 36watts.
I dunno, granted this is very different, but my experiences of using the Big dripper, put me right off of sqwonking, dripping really doesn't bother me, leaking does so in my own vape journey i need to find better less leaky atomisers
so in my own vape journey i need to find better less leaky atomisers
Jip 9-10 wraps is 100%. No i cut it so that the wick just just touch the base. Then i fit the chimney and lube it. I use then a small tool to push the wick against the base so far from the hole as possible. Never have a problem with this method.
Hope this help.
I have three Lemos and not one of them ever leaked on me. NEVER!I dunno, granted this is very different, but my experiences of using the Big dripper, put me right off of sqwonking, dripping really doesn't bother me, leaking does
Try the Darang or Omerta - both available at www.vapeclub.co,za. Air channeled to the top of the atty. Actually, the Omerta gives you the choice of both. Check out the pictures and descriptions on their site.I dunno, granted this is very different, but my experiences of using the Big dripper, put me right off of sqwonking, dripping really doesn't bother me, leaking does
This is exactly how I wick my Kayfun, do dry hits ever..... unless the tank is empty
Oh sorry my bad
all good
Now the Lemo is giving me a few dryish hits again. Sigh. Still the same build. I havent changed anything.
Ok, I think from reading all your helpful posts I can only conclude that my wicking is wrong.
So i have a question for all the Lemo experts
I think the part I am getting wrong is the final part of the wicking and the tucking in etc
RipTrippers video is not very clear. I cut my wicks about the height of the chimney
Then i tuck them in. On the base, then i lube it up, but then I dont use a tool after lubing up to position the wicks. I think thats what I may be doing wrong
I remember from my Kayfun days that the wick must be on the ridge but must not cover the juice channels. Ie it must be tucked up against the wall
So when you use your tool, @VapeSnow and you say you push it as far from the hole as possible, do you mean you push the wet wicks to the centre? What hole are you referring to? The juice channel hole I assume?
So can someone just run me through what I should do once the wicks are wet and i need to tuck them in. Which way should I prod and push them?
Sorry for such a noob question, you guys probably think I am mad. Lol
Ok, I think from reading all your helpful posts I can only conclude that my wicking is wrong.
So i have a question for all the Lemo experts
I think the part I am getting wrong is the final part of the wicking and the tucking in etc
RipTrippers video is not very clear. I cut my wicks about the height of the chimney
Then i tuck them in. On the base, then i lube it up, but then I dont use a tool after lubing up to position the wicks. I think thats what I may be doing wrong
I remember from my Kayfun days that the wick must be on the ridge but must not cover the juice channels. Ie it must be tucked up against the wall
So when you use your tool, @VapeSnow and you say you push it as far from the hole as possible, do you mean you push the wet wicks to the centre? What hole are you referring to? The juice channel hole I assume?
So can someone just run me through what I should do once the wicks are wet and i need to tuck them in. Which way should I prod and push them?
Sorry for such a noob question, you guys probably think I am mad. Lol
@Silver, this is only my experience. But Rip talks BS, i tried his kayfun build, and it was shockingly bad, each time i tried it.
To me, it sounds like you wicking is getting choked somewhere, possibly too tight in the coil? with my kayfun builds i usually have the wick a little looser than in a RDA, and i place my cotton on top of the juice channels
To me, it sounds like you wicking is getting choked somewhere, possibly too tight in the coil? with my kayfun builds i usually have the wick a little looser than in a RDA, and i place my cotton on top of the juice channels
@Silver sorry if i was not clear. U tuck it away from this juice hole against the wall. Your juice holes must be nice and open.
What i useley do is look in when i tuck it away. You want to see the holes clear from cotton.
Glad i could help.
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