G-Priv/Big Baby Beast RBA/Alien Wire Nightmare

[Coldcat]

Sigh.. So I'm stumped... After fighting this for now 4 hours if not longer..

Got Demon Killer Wick n Wire today. Cleaned up my big baby beast from scratch, Hot water and dried thoroughly. Did a 5 wrap build duel build 3.5mm. Both coils fired well. Put on cap of RBA, Fired again, good (don't recall mod detecting new resistance), Wicked filled up tank. Get atomiser shoted error. Unscrew and put back on picks up then new coil and sets it to something like 2.1 ohms. Figured coils might be touching, drained and started over again.

Then the nightmare started. Shortest story: Eventually went down to a 3mm 4 wrap build. device keeps reading irregular. I can take it off put it on and will read 0.8, then repeat and get 1.2 then again 0.5 and so on. I'm pretty sure coiled Alien wire 0.3*0.8+32GA should read close to 0.2-0.3? Used steam-engine.org to try calculate it, however can't find a resistance rating on this wire anywhere to be sure what I'm calculating is 100% correct.

One stage even thought perhaps there was a loose wire off cut on the RBA and did another clean..

Put a 0.15 stock coil in. Reads around 0.16-0.17 but consistent.

Discovered my one screw wasn't tight enough, tightened it eventually better with a replacement screw.

Right now I'm at 0.6-0.8 then 1.2 once wicked (wtf?) then test fire and atomiser shortened error again.. I'm done for the night. Going tomorrow use my old wire (Nichrome 24ga) and see if that works as before.

 

[Jp1905]

Also check the 510 on the mod,I had a dirty 510 this morning and ended up getting the same issues,and yes,as you said coils could be touching somewhere inside.


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[Coldcat]

Also check the 510 on the mod,I had a dirty 510 this morning and ended up getting the same issues,and yes,as you said coils could be touching somewhere inside.


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oh yeah never mentioned that. scrubbed it about 30mins ago, even popped out the pin to have a look thought perhaps was water in there, it's dry and clean. when I put stock coil have no issues.\

Can't see the coil touching at all either. Will try again tomorrow and see. perhaps this alien wire is just not for me.

 

[Coldcat]

so, decided to pull my ohm reader out and get the following:

2.4 for the baby beast.
0.2 on my transformer which I built yesterday afternoon. Something I forgot about. This build has 5 wraps too.

Clearly it's to do with the baby beast and not my build.

Going to replace the o ring on the rba and see now.

 

[wikus]

Baby beast rba has literally got no space in it to do a proper build, bought myself a Pharoah tank for my builds, using stock coils for my baby beast. Good luck with the rba hope u get it sorted.

 

[Coldcat]

I'm having same issue with my previous wire. Irregular readings. When I have it my ohm reader and poke the posts the readings fluctuate, So thought it's the RBA that perhaps shorting. However when I have no wire in, and poke the posts nothing reads, surely if there's a short in the RBA would get some reading? ... So stumped.

 

[William Vermaak]

Hey dude, I had a similar one last night. Turned out that the 510 on the bottom of the RBA was not making descent contact with the deck. I took out the deck and then pushed in the 510 pin on the bottom of the RBA as far in as it could go. Screwed in the deck and voila. Hope it's that bud.


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[gdigitel]

Just check that insulator at your positive post still looks good. Maybe it's damaged? Other than that check 510 connector at atie and mod. Make sure there is no juice or shrapnel there to cause issues. Also check that postive post at bottom of RBA can make easy contact with the positive pin where it screws into atie base.

 

[ET]

Sometimes it's the big baby beast rba oring that causes the hassles. Sometimes you have to replace the oring or even add another one on top of the old one as the original perishes or is not thick enough so when you screw the rba into the base it pushes the 510 pin down too far and you get shorts on the deck.

 

[Coldcat]

ok so.

Replaced the o-ring on RBA
Replaced all the screws with new ones
Rebuilt the coils, cause others were no longer neat from me handling the RBA.
Also made sure all the contacts were flat, so coil was twisted just before going in as the screws go in from sides.
Coil was reading 0.2-0.3 on reader, So was happy to move forward.
On G-Priv it fluctuates still but not near as bad as it was before 0.316 - 0.418
When I fire it says 0.29.
Feeling a little bit better but not 100% happy cause I've never had an issue like this before and certainly hate not understanding why.

Going to wick now and see.

To those trying to help me, thank you.

 

[Coldcat]

Seems fine now. yoh what a mission that was. Alien wire is nice got to say.

 

[William Vermaak]

Glad you got it bud. I've found that Kanthal does fluctuate a lot. That's why it can't be used in TC, but it is an awesome vape though


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[Dexter]

Glad you got it bud. I've found that Kanthal does fluctuate a lot. That's why it can't be used in TC, but it is an awesome vape though


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Kanthal wire can't be used in tc because it's tcr curve is pretty much straight ie - it's resistance doesn't change at all.
Your mod doesn't read temperature, it reads the resistance of the coil. Wire like stainless steel and titanium increase in resistance as they heat up, which is how the temp is regulated. The bigger the tcr curve, the better the mod can regulate...

 

[William Vermaak]

Kanthal wire can't be used in tc because it's tcr curve is pretty much straight ie - it's resistance doesn't change at all.
Your mod doesn't read temperature, it reads the resistance of the coil. Wire like stainless steel and titanium increase in resistance as they heat up, which is how the temp is regulated. The bigger the tcr curve, the better the mod can regulate...

Thanx dude. That cleared it up for me. Much appreciated


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[Tockit]

Remove Rba from base and screw the Rba into chimney section first. Push 510 connector on base from the bottom up as far as it will go and then screw the base onto the Rba deck. See if this helps.

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[Mando]

Hi. Just my 2 cents. The rba can't handle a powerful build. Be careful because you might fry the insulator like i did. Completely melted it lol. Stick to something close to what comes with the RBA to be safe

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[Coldcat]

Hi. Just my 2 cents. The rba can't handle a powerful build. Be careful because you might fry the insulator like i did. Completely melted it lol. Stick to something close to what comes with the RBA to be safe

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thanks, wasn't thinking this wire would be such a powerful build. I put my Nichrome 24g build back in and getting same error so think it's the RBA that's stuffed up now. So going to try get another one cause I'm without a vape at the moment.

 

[Tockit]

thanks, wasn't thinking this wire would be such a powerful build. I put my Nichrome 24g build back in and getting same error so think it's the RBA that's stuffed up now. So going to try get another one cause I'm without a vape at the moment.

Just tried what i suggested above, i had and issue where i was getting atomizer short. but when i loosen the base the error would go away. and ended up screwing the RBA deck into the chimney first and then screw the base on. i think the RBA is shorting out on the base.

 

[Coldcat]

Just tried what i suggested above, i had and issue where i was getting atomizer short. but when i loosen the base the error would go away. and ended up screwing the RBA deck into the chimney first and then screw the base on. i think the RBA is shorting out on the base.

i tried that too, but it's so finicky that when I just so much as tap pressure on it from any angle the ohms change, too sensitive. I also don't want the base to be loose on the device. Want it to be secure to a degree. Only when it's loose does the ohms seem read correct.

 

[William Vermaak]

@Coldcat. PM me your address, then I'll send you mine. Don't think I'm going to be using it. Can only get to the Post Office over the weekend though.

EDIT: Unless you want to organise a courier to come and collect from me

 

[Coldcat]

@Coldcat. PM me your address, then I'll send you mine. Don't think I'm going to be using it. Can only get to the Post Office over the weekend though.

EDIT: Unless you want to organise a courier to come and collect from me

Ah that's really so kind of you. I'm about to pop out now and swinging past jucy joes here by me to see if they have, if they do will buy it there so I can vape tonight, (night shift.. fun times)

 

[William Vermaak]

Ah that's really so kind of you. I'm about to pop out now and swinging past jucy joes here by me to see if they have, if they do will buy it there so I can vape tonight, (night shift.. fun times)

Cool. Let me know. The offer stands.

 

[Tockit]

i tried that too, but it's so finicky that when I just so much as tap pressure on it from any angle the ohms change, too sensitive. I also don't want the base to be loose on the device. Want it to be secure to a degree. Only when it's loose does the ohms seem read correct.

If you do it as I explained then you cannot get a reading off it though. The Rba goes onto top section of the tank first then you screw the airflow control base onto the Rba deck and then put it on mod.

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[Coldcat]

Ok so got new RBA. Happy chappy again as it works.

 

[William Vermaak]

Whoop whoop. Glad you got it sorted.


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