Good Manners

[Rob Fisher]

I have had a PM or two in recent times from members who have bought items from other members in the classifieds and the condition of the atties have been in a disgusting condition. That is just bad manners. Sending something without cleaning it thoroughly is just being a PIG!

If the coil is in good condition and useable feel free to leave it in but if it's in a bad condition and unusable remove it and clean the item completely!

We don't want to have a name and shame the pigs thread... so be warned! Clean the items you are selling!

 

[RainstormZA]

Agreed. I always clean throughly and check coils. Even if it's a PIF , it's treated the same.

Imagine visiting someone and they give you a dirty cup to drink from. Ew. No! Not even a dirty plate of food or whatnot.

 

[X-Calibre786]

I've had this experience when buying used. Was totally grossed out by the device when I got it. Almost threw it away.

 

[vicTor]

I can tell quite a few stories

 

[Silver]

Agreed 100% @Rob Fisher

Not just good manners to clean something you are selling but it’s common decency - there is a hygiene element here too - so please properly clean your gear before sending

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

I cant be bothered, whether its clean or not, Im going to wash it anyway before I use it. Its not like juice is difficult to wash and get cleaned. New stuff is also sometimes full of oil, metal shavings etc.

Leaving coils inside, same thing. Look at the photos on the forum. Some people change exotic coils after a week or two, others use them for a year. So if someone leave a coil in, the buyer can decide if he still wants to use it or not. Its not the end of the world and it wont take you longer than 10s te remove the coil if you dont like it.

 

[vicTor]

I cant be bothered, whether its clean or not, Im going to wash it anyway before I use it. Its not like juice is difficult to wash and get cleaned. New stuff is also sometimes full of oil, metal shavings etc.

Leaving coils inside, same thing. Look at the photos on the forum. Some people change exotic coils after a week or two, others use them for a year. So if someone leave a coil in, the buyer can decide if he still wants to use it or not. Its not the end of the world and it wont take you longer than 10s te remove the coil if you dont like it.

you're missing the point, good manners

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

you're missing the point, good manners

No you missing the point. I cant be bothered. There is plenty of stuff people do on this forum daily that is not good manners. So why will I make a scene about one of them? Glass houses?

 

[Adephi]

No you missing the point. I cant be bothered. There is plenty of stuff people do on this forum daily that is not good manners. So why will I make a scene about one of them? Glass houses?

So if you are at the squash club ordering a beer and it arrived covered with the glass covered with the barman's oily hands it would be fine. It will just take 5 seconds to wipe it with some toilet paper.

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

So if you are at the squash club ordering a beer and it arrived covered with the glass covered with the barman's oily hands it would be fine. It will just take 5 seconds to wipe it with some toilet paper.

If you buy a brand new atty, do you use it as is or wash it first?
If I drink somewhere thats not my place I expect the glass to be cleaned properly, a wipe with toilet paper is not cleaned properly, and Im sure I will not be allowed to go into their kitcjen and wash it properly.

 

[Juan_G]

Received a rda from a forum member today and it was disgustingly dirty, with what looks like food or glue on the drip tip and the rest of the rda looking the same.

Just wash the item that you're selling it's as easy as that. Leave the coils if they are in a usable condition but at least clean the item that you're selling before you send it to the buyer.

 

[vicTor]

No you missing the point. I cant be bothered. There is plenty of stuff people do on this forum daily that is not good manners. So why will I make a scene about one of them? Glass houses?

we are bothered, don't care if you are not

clean your shit about before you ship

like someone with good manners does

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

Same old same old.
Good manners is the new ethics

 

[Adephi]

If you buy a brand new atty, do you use it as is or wash it first?
If I drink somewhere thats not my place I expect the glass to be cleaned properly, a wipe with toilet paper is not cleaned properly, and Im sure I will not be allowed to go into their kitcjen and wash it properly.

You are clearly missing the point.

We are not discussing practicality here. We are discussing good manners.

 

[Asterix]

I think @Jean claude Vaaldamme is arguing just for the sake of arguing ... as he often does, and sometimes it’s entertaining. (Should have a “wooden spoon” avatar).

Back on topic, it’s a poor reflection and total lack of respect to sell and deliver an item that has not been cleaned. Yes, we all clean tanks once in our possession, but that doesn’t mean you want to see crud left over from previous owner

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

You are clearly missing the point.

We are not discussing practicality here. We are discussing good manners.

No you are all missing the point, Im leading you all into a trap, this is not the first thread of this type

 

[Silver]

I think there may be some folk that dont mind buying a second hand atty and receiving it in a dirty and disgusting condition. Their reason is that they can just clean it easily. That's cool.

But I speak for myself here. If I buy something second hand and I see it in the photo being advertised and it looks nice and clean - and then when I get it - it looks terrible and has dried juice and spit on the driptip - it will just make me cringe and I would be very tempted not to use that atty. I would also be inclined not to buy from that seller again. So I fully agree with @Rob Fisher 's original post. For me, I would like the atty at least cleaned before it is sent.

I think there are many more members in this camp - of wanting to receive clean stuff. So the message to sellers is that its best to clean it before sending.

 

[M.Adhir]

Received a rda from a forum member today and it was disgustingly dirty, with what looks like food or glue on the drip tip and the rest of the rda looking the same.

My money is on that being, for lack of a better word, mouth crusties/ mouth snot lol.
Had a few instances where people insist you taste their vape. And then you see the crusty dried mayonnaise looking driptip.

 

[RainstormZA]

My money is on that being, for lack of a better word, mouth crusties/ mouth snot lol.
Had a few instances where people insist you taste their vape. And then you see the crusty dried mayonnaise looking driptip.

Good Lords, eeeew now that image is stuck in my head.

Help!!!

 

[M.Adhir]

Good Lords, eeeew now that image is stuck in my head.

Help!!!

Even better was the other day the vape store employee picked their nose, chowed the unprecious gnarly they had just excavated (like chew chew then swallow)... then asked if they can test my atty out.

 

[Juan_G]

So

Even better was the other day the vape store employee picked their nose, chowed the unprecious gnarly they had just excavated (like chew chew then swallow)... then asked if they can test my atty out.

So you said yes then? LOL

 

[M.Adhir]

So

So you said yes then? LOL

Negative. Lol.
I don't even let stores wick my atty's these days.

 

[Juan_G]

Negative. Lol.
I don't even let stores wick my atty's these days.

Same here!

 

[RayDeny]

Ok I’ve not had a read of any of the replies to Robs post, BUT, I have to agree with Rob.

I too have bought a few atties second hand with some of them been.............well still having the old cotton in them.

It puts a bad taste in your mouth (excuse the pun) opening a package and finding a dirty whatever inside, be it a car,laptop or atty.

Even if you buy a second hand part for a car, it comes in a presentable condition.

There needs to be some pride in everything you put forward as it been an extension of yourself.

I have bought some items from forum members who have asked for a extra day as they want to ultrasonic clean the item beforehand or that I must not stress about the liquid as it’s PG cause they have just cleaned it.

This is what anyone wants in the second hand market wants , buying something from someone who actually cared for the item.

 

[Jp1905]

I believe this too shows some of the “dirty goods” dealer’s personality.

I dont even wanna know what these guys cupboards look like at home,if they dont mind showing their dirty goods to all the members here,who knows what level of tolerance they have when its behind closed doors where only they see it.