Griffin RTA isolator melted? WHAAAAAT

[MetalMulisha23]

Good day to all the vapers out there..

Okay so I need so expert advice or input... My brother bought himself the Griffin RTA a couple of days ago..Griffin got set up by a guy at another vape shop as I wasn't in town.

He has used it for about 3 days until he started to complain that it doesn't work sometimes and says no connection.

I opened it up to see if the coils were still proparly tied down and noticed that the isolation melted and now 1 of the posts are loose...

He has a cuboid mini and he only used it from 35W to about 40W on the power setting as I told him to stay low range first to get a feel of the Griffin..and later on we can go to higher watts..

The wire that has been used is Alien Clapton 32Ga flat as recommended by the guy I the shop it ran about 5-6 wraps around 0.14-0.2 ohms..

Why would it melt so easily? Is it a faulty device? Do we need to take it back?

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[MetalMulisha23]

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[MetalMulisha23]

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[shabbar]

thats strange , i vaped my griffin constantly at 85w and have it for 3months with no issue

 

[boxerulez]

pocket fire perhaps.

 

[MetalMulisha23]

Doubt it's pocket fire had it for 3 days? Never had a issue with the twisp tank on what so ever, amd the Twisp tanks atti is super sensitive. Always switches device off after use, he just occasionally vapes

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[MetalMulisha23]

He is back on the Twisp tank again no issue..

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[MetalMulisha23]

Cotton would have indicated if it was infact pocket fire.. Cotton was still 100%

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[MetalMulisha23]

thats strange , i vaped my griffin constantly at 85w and have it for 3months with no issue

My 1 buddy also vapes at those levels with his Griffin no problems what so ever.

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[blujeenz]

Polyether ether ketone (PEEK) has a glass transition state of 143 °C at which point it goes from hard to soft rubbery state.
Melting point of 343 °C.

So, IMO its either

1. fake knockoff PEEK, or
   
2. it has endured 143 °C.

Im feeling its more option 1 because I dont see the posts and build deck getting to 100 °C in a working atty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEEK

 

[MetalMulisha23]

Polyether ether ketone (PEEK) has a glass transition state of 143 °C at which point it goes from hard to soft rubbery state.
Melting point of 343 °C.

So, IMO its either

1. fake knockoff PEEK, or
   
2. it has endured 143 °C.

Im feeling its more option 1 because I dont see the posts and build deck getting to 100 °C in a working atty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEEK

Thank you for clearing that out.

I did check the security code out on there page it's a legit device but like you said the "PEEK" might not be.. I'll definitely take it back then coz I'm 100% sure it did not reach 343°C in his pocket

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[shabbar]

have you verified the authenticity ? and contacted the vendor ?

 

[Feliks Karp]

Polyether ether ketone (PEEK) has a glass transition state of 143 °C at which point it goes from hard to soft rubbery state.
Melting point of 343 °C.

So, IMO its either

1. fake knockoff PEEK, or
   
2. it has endured 143 °C.

Im feeling its more option 1 because I dont see the posts and build deck getting to 100 °C in a working atty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEEK

Especially not at 40 watts on a 0.14 coil, probably takes the full cut off time to build any decent heat. Maybe if his cousin is chain vaping like a crazy man, which I could believe with the ramp up time that he probably gets on that, could be a heat thing.

 

[MetalMulisha23]

have you verified the authenticity ? and contacted the vendor ?

Yehp yehp that's normally the first thing I do before I even start any assembly on them. But will sure give them a call and find out what is going on. Doubt it would have reached 140°C as it's on a low watt, occasionally vaped and he always switches the mod off

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[MetalMulisha23]

Especially not at 40 watts on a 0.14 coil, probably takes the full cut off time to build any decent heat. Maybe if his cousin is chain vaping like a crazy man, which I could believe with the ramp up time that he probably gets on that, could be a heat thing.

No chain vaping at all normally takes about 3 puffs 4 times a day.. and yes takes time to heat the coil up,after the second pull it would be at the right temp to Vape as usual

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[Chukin'Vape]

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YASSAS! Did you dryburn the F out of a coil or something perhaps?

 

[MetalMulisha23]

YASSAS! Did you dryburn the F out of a coil or something perhaps?

Nope was set up by a guy at the vape shop and my brother said he even showed him how to set it up aswell so it was still all good..

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[Polar]

A loose connection would cause the positive post to heat up.

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[stevie g]

It has to be user error combined with sub par peek material on the insulator.

Unless it's really cheap low melting point peek knockoff they used in a pinch.

 

[MetalMulisha23]

The shop I bought it from had a look at it and they gladly replaced it without any hassle so I doubt it was user error

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