Hate Towards Vape Shops

People are different and have different expectations.

I could say I hate Company X cos they are way over priced but at the same time my buddy loves them cos he feels he gets excellent service. Excellent service for me is next morning delivery and for him having the latest product by the afternoon is fine.

I guess what I am saying is its subjective.

I have walked into different branches of vape stores around South Africa and been treated good and bad. That doesn't make lady queen monopoly a good or bad vendor.

One gender neutral vendor said if you spend R1000 a month your not the kind of customer I am looking for in my store. I dont shop there but good luck to him plenty of people on this forum love her/him for excellent service. Business models are different and customers are cunts at best. Find the guys that work for you.

@BuzzGlo Please pm that vendor details thats said spending R1000 is not his type of customer


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This is all about your personal experience with a vendor, and is the salesperson who attended (or didn't) attend to your needs. It holds true for any industry. If your salesperson was knowledgeable, helpful and made you feel good then your perception will be that that is a good vendor. Not all the salespeople may be that good. I you had a bad experience then your perception is that the vendor is bad. Not all the salespeople may be that bad.
I find that getting to a salesperson that you feel comfortable with is the secret of shopping at a "good" vendor. I believe that there are very few truly bad vendors - they would not last long unless they were giving their stock away which would make the bad attitude and service worth it.
 
@BuzzGlo Please pm that vendor details thats said spending R1000 is not his type of customer


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To be fair, you'd also like to know the source of where/when it was said. Not saying it didn't happen, just that you have to be sure.
But if it is confirmed, then yes, it'd be..... handy.... to know who it was.
 
Two words customer service, this makes every difference in supporting any vendor yes price plays a part but there Will be occasions when u Will favour one over the other because of products but I will continue to support any vendor that has excellent service skills and after sales feedback.
 
I think it comes down to quality of service. I mean the vape shop where I stay TheVapeStudio has been since day one of their opening my favourite vape shop. They are always open to help people out, I see alot of new vapers with rta's & rtda's come in and they offer them free rewicks and tutorials on how to wick their device. They won't try to sell a newbie a cheap shitty device so that the newbie comes in and buy a second vape a month later. Creating a double sale.

Where as I've been in some shops where they just want you in & out. Like buy the juice a f*off..
 
To be fair, you'd also like to know the source of where/when it was said. Not saying it didn't happen, just that you have to be sure.
But if it is confirmed, then yes, it'd be..... handy.... to know who it was.

Yup my plan is to confirm this then take it from there


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they need to understand that the people are just trying to help them improve there business
If complaints were seen and handled this way, the complaints would stop. Critique should be welcomed and used as a tool for improvement, because that's what it is.
 
There is no vapefam or community, any more than there is a music community. Within the broad spectrum of people who are fanatical about music, you will find metal-heads dissing rappers, rappers dissing C&W fans, C&W fans dissing disco, disco fans dissing jazz, jazz fans dissing house. That they all like music doesn't make them a musicfam, nor does it imply that they all need to get along and speak with one voice.

This spirit of faux camaraderie in vaping is unfathomable to me. I have nothing in common with some American Gamergater teen who hot-boxes his mom's Honda Civic with his Juuling buds. That we both happen to use vaporiser products is irrelevant. I would need to see a lot more similarities before accepting that we are kindred spirits who speak with one voice.
Damn this is well said!
 
I have been vaping for almost four years and am yet to find a vape shop that I will frequent. Many of the problems have been raised already but I see no point in buying from a shop where I know way more about the products than the sales staff. I, therefore, make my own decisions and buy online.
The only advantage of a B&M shop (for me) is advice on products. If I can't get this, I will continue to buy online.
The only exception to this that I have experienced was at Vap3 Africa near N1 City. I recently spoke to the owner who was knowledgeable, polite, friendly and lacking in the usual B S I have experienced elsewhere. Unfortunately, I am seldom in that part of CT.
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Two words customer service, this makes every difference in supporting any vendor yes price plays a part but there Will be occasions when u Will favour one over the other because of products but I will continue to support any vendor that has excellent service skills and after sales feedback.
That's 48 words.
 
There is no vapefam or community, any more than there is a music community. Within the broad spectrum of people who are fanatical about music, you will find metal-heads dissing rappers, rappers dissing C&W fans, C&W fans dissing disco, disco fans dissing jazz, jazz fans dissing house. That they all like music doesn't make them a musicfam, nor does it imply that they all need to get along and speak with one voice.

This spirit of faux camaraderie in vaping is unfathomable to me. I have nothing in common with some American Gamergater teen who hot-boxes his mom's Honda Civic with his Juuling buds. That we both happen to use vaporiser products is irrelevant. I would need to see a lot more similarities before accepting that we are kindred spirits who speak with one voice.

Fellow kindred spirit, please join me as we yell loudly at the clouds

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My favourite is when high school Juulers walk on the verge past my house. I go out in my slippers, shake my fist and yell at them to get off my lawn. When I was a kid, I used to think that old farts were the lamest thing ever. But now that I am one, I have to concede that it is pretty darn satisfying.
 
There is no vapefam or community, any more than there is a music community. Within the broad spectrum of people who are fanatical about music, you will find metal-heads dissing rappers, rappers dissing C&W fans, C&W fans dissing disco, disco fans dissing jazz, jazz fans dissing house. That they all like music doesn't make them a musicfam, nor does it imply that they all need to get along and speak with one voice.

This spirit of faux camaraderie in vaping is unfathomable to me. I have nothing in common with some American Gamergater teen who hot-boxes his mom's Honda Civic with his Juuling buds. That we both happen to use vaporiser products is irrelevant. I would need to see a lot more similarities before accepting that we are kindred spirits who speak with one voice.
Well said so true..
 
There is no vapefam or community, any more than there is a music community. Within the broad spectrum of people who are fanatical about music, you will find metal-heads dissing rappers, rappers dissing C&W fans, C&W fans dissing disco, disco fans dissing jazz, jazz fans dissing house. That they all like music doesn't make them a musicfam, nor does it imply that they all need to get along and speak with one voice.

This spirit of faux camaraderie in vaping is unfathomable to me. I have nothing in common with some American Gamergater teen who hot-boxes his mom's Honda Civic with his Juuling buds. That we both happen to use vaporiser products is irrelevant. I would need to see a lot more similarities before accepting that we are kindred spirits who speak with one voice.

Three years ago the vape community was very different.... I imagine a year or two before then it was literally like a family. My first vape meet had 30 people or so. It was a very intimate community. That time has long since past... many vendors now jump on that like it means something more to push sales and loyalty.

I guess i'm saying you are not wrong but maybe that sheds some light on where that spirit stems from.
 
Sure, the early adopters would have been close, when vaping was mainly enthusiasts creating their own mechs in their workshops. But I agree that time is past now. When I first started vaping, if I saw another person vaping at a party, I was inclined to go up to them and initiate conversation around vaping, what setup they have, what juice they are vaping. Now I wouldn't be inclined to do it. It's now become sufficiently widespread imo that it doesn't merit any special attention.
 
I hear you but dont fully agree with you @RichJB

I believe there is a very strong community of vapers here on the forum. Many of us would go out of our way to help others. We witness it here every day.

And at vape meets and even VapeCon, there is a spirit amongst many that is very strong.

Yes, there may be a bigger industry side to it now and more vapers out there that couldnt care less about what we do here - but the spirit and vaping bond here on the forum amongst many of us is still very strong and alive in my opinion.
 
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On the forum, yes, because that is a specialised sub-group among vapers. In the same way, I'm sure there is a close bond between members of, say, the Alfa Romeo Owners Club. But one wouldn't extend that to claiming a close bond between motorists in general.
 
On the forum, yes, because that is a specialised sub-group among vapers. In the same way, I'm sure there is a close bond between members of, say, the Alfa Romeo Owners Club. But one wouldn't extend that to claiming a close bond between motorists in general.

Agreed

I am referring mainly to the forum here

But i agree - that there isnt necessarily a "closeness" or strong bond between vapers out in the mainstream public

Although, that said, I do still feel a closeness "of sorts" when I come across a vaper in public. Have often chatted about vaping to another vaping stranger and its usually been a good experience. A bit like chatting to a smoker in the smoking section.
 
I think it's a multi-leveled thing. I would feel a bond with those on the forum, in the vaping WA groups that I belong to, with followers of DIYorDie and, more broadly, with most DIY groups like E-Juice Makers collective. But then it becomes like everything else. As a bass angler, I would feel a bond with other bass anglers. But not so much with surf anglers, deep sea, trout fly fishermen and so on. In vaping, I would feel little connection with cloud comp entrants, trickers, teens who Juul, the coil fundis who follow squidoode, and other vaping sub-groups.
 
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