Nothing beats the abalone hotcig it's my driver! After following ur kayfun posts I am trying a couple of sxk kayfuns to c how I like the style (let's not get into attack of the clones again) then maybe I can move onto a serious version.
HE v non-HE
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got caught up in the moment, my take on the whole topic;
Japanese, Chinese, Mexican, American, whoever produces whatever level of MOD/RDA/RTA, if I can get a good vape from it, I love it. Would i like an authentic ESG Skyline? Hell yeah! Can I afford it? That's a different subject that I need to discuss with my bank manager.
Maybe I just click to much on the wrong threads and always see the high praise in HE/expensive mods, that I myself want it as well, but cant afford it right this moment.
For now I'm off the stinkies, using my own defined HE setup namely a Therion BF with a tsunami/LP, so I'm a happy camper.
A bit more "LE" reviews on the forum would be great, but nowadays only the "HE" stuff makes it on here.
Great to hear @Scouse45
My Kayfun5 is going beautifully.
My V3 Mini is still not right and I need to experiment a bit more.
Nobody is atacking clones.
I for 1 just stated my opinion on them.
If I say that clones are intellectual property theft I don't see how you would take offence to my opinion unless you agree with my statement and then reject it because you think I'm atacking you.
If you want to use the clone it's none of my business.
That's the spirit. I would suggest creating your own thread regarding the gear that you love.
It seems 1 man would create the bulk of the thread and everyone would add.
When said man moves to other devices that can't be bought readily it's natural that he would continue to do the same.
Perhaps this is a call to the community to be more active instead of expecting someone else to start a thread.
Hi @wikus
I alluded to this much earlier in the thread. There is no change on the forum regarding a swing toward high end gear. ECIGSSA has no policy to promote the posting of any type of gear.
What you may be witnessing is that one of our most prolific posters and fellow Admin Mr Fisher has gone heavily into the high end journey. Hence he has posted a fair amount of high end gear he is experiencing. And the related conversation adds to it. But that is his personal journey. Not a forum policy of any kind.
Members are free to post about all vaping devices, not just the high end stuff.
Just wanted to make that clear in case anyone thought differently.
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Thanks for phrasing thay better than I could.
It really is up to everyone to contribute as there seems to be anger or resentment because Rob is no longer creating threads on everything new that comes out.
If it amazes you I would create a thread instead of waiting for someone else to do it.
In my hand right now
One of my favourite Vaping devices. Subtank Mini V2 on istick50. It's old but works so incredibly well
This exact device got me through VapeCon 2016 and will most likely get me through VapeCon 2017 as well. I have a 'love' for it that is quite special. Many special moments.
One of my favourite Vaping devices. Subtank Mini V2 on istick50. It's old but works so incredibly well
This exact device got me through VapeCon 2016 and will most likely get me through VapeCon 2017 as well. I have a 'love' for it that is quite special. Many special moments.
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I think this whole HE LE Clones vs Authentic has bigger repercussions than we think ... there are other forces at work here namely Tobacco companies. They are the real threat to the industry and our love for vaping ......
Instead of infighting , I propose we take action , join the fight as in the end it's about a healthier lifestyle be it vaping on a Skyline or a Twisp....
This was posted in 2014 ..... three years later nothing has changed it's only getting worse :
Quote from the post that grabbed me , read it and take heed brothers and sisters : http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2014/03/e-cigarette-patent-wars
""The e-cigarette business, then, will probably end up much like the smartphone industry (whose miniature-battery technology helped make modern e-cigarettes possible): awash in patent-related lawsuits and counter-lawsuits. Taken together with restrictive and ill-conceived e-cigarette regulations proposed on both sides of the Atlantic, all this may slow growth and innovation in an industry that could greatly reduce the number of smoking-related deaths worldwide. Not exactly a win for anyone involved."
Instead of infighting , I propose we take action , join the fight as in the end it's about a healthier lifestyle be it vaping on a Skyline or a Twisp....
This was posted in 2014 ..... three years later nothing has changed it's only getting worse :
Quote from the post that grabbed me , read it and take heed brothers and sisters : http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2014/03/e-cigarette-patent-wars
""The e-cigarette business, then, will probably end up much like the smartphone industry (whose miniature-battery technology helped make modern e-cigarettes possible): awash in patent-related lawsuits and counter-lawsuits. Taken together with restrictive and ill-conceived e-cigarette regulations proposed on both sides of the Atlantic, all this may slow growth and innovation in an industry that could greatly reduce the number of smoking-related deaths worldwide. Not exactly a win for anyone involved."
LOL, I enjoy watching him. He is a very good reviewer in my opinion, quite thorough in his approach.
No! I did not say you .... "us (the west) buy products irrespective of quality, design and tolerances... basically saying we jump at the cheap rubbish" - read again an then try to make an intelligent comment. I did not disrespect and or address your financial situation in any way, c'mon. I did not address your choice/s, bad or good! If you know the Chinese business model regarding "budget" conscious Western consumer goods, please explain it it to me, as it seems that I don't have a clue.
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No did not direct that at u at all was jus lightening the mood haha I'm all about vaping wat u can how u can when u can! That's all that really matters
Sorry I come of as having a go I suppose in a way I am...
Like many here have admitted if I had money for Authentics all day I would too... but I am forced to LE and Clone a lot of the way.
Only allow myself a max of 2 higher quality devices at any given time.
I too do not drink and party but I am in a lower income group so I try to supplement my incone each and every way to reach just a little higher up the vape ladder.
I will turn a blind eye to most thing I encounter which seen divisive and snide toward clone owners.
I will try to be less frivolous going forward with my personal life and aim just a little higher but in the meantime I will puff on my clone hadaly as the flavour is just so damn good.
Peace out @NoCloneZone.
Again... apologies about having a go.
Pitchfork packed neatly away for now.
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@Alex becareful what you post
I posted that exact video once and got a dislike and a comment "the guy swears too much"
But i love that review... Ive watched it beginning to end about 3 times
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Ok bud ok
I would love to know where the term LE came from.
I have not seen anyone calling gear LE and in my mind my gear is not LE even though most guys would call it LE.
I'm thinking whoever came up with the term LE has in fact created this divide between devices which shouldn't exist.
I understand rare pieces will be HE but is there really a need to class LE at all?
My suggestion is that LE is in your own mind.
I have not seen anyone calling gear LE and in my mind my gear is not LE even though most guys would call it LE.
I'm thinking whoever came up with the term LE has in fact created this divide between devices which shouldn't exist.
I understand rare pieces will be HE but is there really a need to class LE at all?
My suggestion is that LE is in your own mind.
You quoted@Alex becareful what you post
I posted that exact video once and got a dislike and a comment the guy swears too much
But i love that review... Ive watched it beginning to end about 3 times
Ah, OK, now that you have explained, I tend to disagree. Yes, I hear you that "goedkoop can be duurkoop" and that a cheap clone that packs up after a few days can be false economy. I have four clones and haven't had a single problem from any of them but I concede that many vapers haven't been as lucky as I have.
However, in financial terms, the bigger picture is that spending as little as possible on vaping and as much as possible on investments that increase in value over time is a wise option. The Chinese model along with DIY allows me to vape really cheaply. So it's a model that I'll keep leveraging.
I think you mean bad hand eye co-ordination or bad mouse/click skillsOops, bad grammer. My bad
I think you mean bad hand eye co-ordination or bad mouse/click skills
He was really upset with me because of that video and preached a bit inbetween his words
I started typing but then thought shame rather not the toppie just probably walked out church and asked lord for forgiveness and here i lay all this rude language on him through my posted video
Was it myself?He was really upset with me because of that video and preached a bit inbetween his words
I started typing but then thought shame rather not the toppie just probably walked out church and asked lord for forgiveness and here i lay all this rude language on him through my posted video
No wasn't you bud, cant remember who it was. Think it was a newish member.
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