High end clone?

this is the same fight people have over android or apple, canon vs nikon, ferrari vs lamborghini, fiat vs ... (ok, fiat's are shit)...

to me, and i speak as someone who has done their fair share of hobbies, and unnecessary spending on upgrades of kit...

i think a lot of what is considered "High End", is done for the "look at me, i have tons of bucks, and can spend it on a etherium or bitcoin plated mod"... crowd.

For you see, if you have it all, you detest the kid who shouts that the emperor has no clothes...

so ooh and aah and tell me its fabulous and show me worship cos i am rich and you are not...

(wait for it...)
 
KZOR said:
Why in the world would you start another thread of HE vs LE gear?
Diversity in opinion will always rule the day.

1) If you can afford HE gear and buy them then you will most likely be pro HE.
2) If you can afford HE gear but don't buy them then you most likely don't use social media.
3) If you can afford HE gear but don't buy them then you most likely have other financial priorities.
4) If you have HE gear and respond negatively to this question then it is because you most likely feel the clone is tarnishing the "exclusivity" of the item.
5) If you cannot afford HE gear then you will most likely always ask this question.
6) If you cannot afford HE gear and don't ask this question then you most likely buy clones in the hope of experiencing HE.
7) If you cannot afford HE gear and you buy a clone then you have most likely done your research and found the clone to be of approximate quality.
8) If you happy with your setup and enjoy vaping for what it is then you will most likely not ask the question.

So which numbers apply to you?
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All of the above apply to me.
 
Clouds4Days said:
Too many people on this thread to Tag. Guys read the OP!
Dave is asking if he can post about a clone on a authentic thread....
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Thanks @Clouds4Days
Nearly right :) not in an authentic thread but in the High End Gear thread.

I am thinking most people seem not able to read .......... well not properly anyway.:p

I have no idea why so many get upset, such a trivial matter.

I would have said to the OP course you can Dave, post away ;););)

:)
Dave
 
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Threads like these always make me chuckle :)
 
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DaveH said:
Would a clone of a item of high end gear be classified as high end gear?
:)
Dave
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Personally @DaveH i would say buying a Clone is like buying Nikes from china Mall.
Yes they are still shoes.
No they have not been made with the same materials.

Nike from China Mall will probably last as long as shoes from PEP.
This is just a personal judgement.

I just feel like Original Products are best.
 
KZOR said:
Why in the world would you start another thread of HE vs LE gear?
Diversity in opinion will always rule the day.

1) If you can afford HE gear and buy them then you will most likely be pro HE.
2) If you can afford HE gear but don't buy them then you most likely don't use social media.
3) If you can afford HE gear but don't buy them then you most likely have other financial priorities.
4) If you have HE gear and respond negatively to this question then it is because you most likely feel the clone is tarnishing the "exclusivity" of the item.
5) If you cannot afford HE gear then you will most likely always ask this question.
6) If you cannot afford HE gear and don't ask this question then you most likely buy clones in the hope of experiencing HE.
7) If you cannot afford HE gear and you buy a clone then you have most likely done your research and found the clone to be of approximate quality.
8) If you happy with your setup and enjoy vaping for what it is then you will most likely not ask the question.

So which numbers apply to you?
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You forgot i can afford to buy HE but by clones that perform equally cause I don't waste money cause that's why I can afford HE
 
Cuzzie said:
Personally @DaveH i would say buying a Clone is like buying Nikes from china Mall.
Yes they are still shoes.
No they have not been made with the same materials.

Nike from China Mall will probably last as long as shoes from PEP.
This is just a personal judgement.

I just feel like Original Products are best.
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But nike is made in China or kids in india
 
Cuzzie said:
Personally @DaveH i would say buying a Clone is like buying Nikes from china Mall.
Yes they are still shoes.
No they have not been made with the same materials.

Nike from China Mall will probably last as long as shoes from PEP.
This is just a personal judgement.

I just feel like Original Products are best.
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Pretty sure clones are made from similar or identical grade of materials to the originals. What you're paying for is the wankfest of exclusively. Nothing more.


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DaveH said:
It wasn't meant to be a contentious question, if I buy a clone of a high end item can I post and discus it in the High End Gear forum?
:)
Dave
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No, simply because you can't compare my purchase slip to yours. ;)
 
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mad_hatter said:
Pretty sure clones are made from similar or identical grade of materials to the originals. What you're paying for is the wankfest of exclusively. Nothing more.


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Never identical, maybe 'somewhat' similar hence 'clone,'
 
From what I know of the materials used in China, the stainless steel they use there is from smelting stainless steel products and casting it into rods and not from buying stainless steel rods. You may get a mixture of stainless steel as they don't differentiate between the different types of stainless steel that goes into it. That's why cable factories in China import copper into China to make copper wiring as it doesn't contain impurities from resmelting old copper cables/items that have been carbonised/oxidised. (Source: My father exports copper from Africa to China and they always test the purity of the copper rods when it lands-must be 97% pure copper)
 
Caveman said:
High End, Low End, in my opinion, is a ridiculous way to classify something. More accurate would be authentic and clone, if it's just HE because it's expensive, then it's retarded. It should be a mix of things imo, craftsmanship, exclusivity and performance. In my mind, something that costs R50 that checks those boxes is HE. A clone can still be HE, but it can be classified as a clone. If we are going to add price to that, so only items that cost more than Rxxx, then imo, you're just being a snob. Price in itself makes things exclusive, but that doesn't mean someone who bought something much cheaper can't be HE. If you drive a BMW, and you look down at people who drive Polo's then I'm wasting my words here. If you look at them the same way you look at other fancy car drivers, then well done. Since when do we need an elitist separation among ourselves.

My 2c

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We're obviously from the same planet :stick:
 
Puff the Magic Dragon said:
You can see that @KZOR is a scientist. If you have a problem ....make a list. It does almost cover everyone but I would add "..can afford HE gear but don't like paying more for something than it is worth".



I prefer my Hasselblad to the Canon. (drops the bait and waits...)
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What you trying to say @Puff the Magic Dragon !? Canon makes great printers, even possibly the best, and there is no way you can deny that! LOL

Regards
 
mad_hatter said:
brb getting popcorn
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Although I'm a user of clones and a few have impressed me with the quality I.e.the Hadaly RDA clone by SXK or the Sherman by Knightsbridge I don't call it H.E. but that's only my opinion. On the other hand a kit replica of a Shelby Cobra might be considered as such.Not an easy answer.
 
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