That was perfectly expressed, so clever
I wonder about that too - but I'd like it in 24mg...for that all week buzz
I think pure not a hybrid extract, you won't even need any nic.
Last edited:
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: this_feature_currently_requires_accessing_site_using_safari
That was perfectly expressed, so clever
I wonder about that too - but I'd like it in 24mg...for that all week buzz
95% tax on ready made juices would make it really bad for us. I assume juice manufacturers would be forced to make a bit less profit and take some of the pain and the price would go up by say about 50%.
I think it would mean a lot of smaller juice manufacturers would just be forced to close down over the longer term and volume manufacture would be the way to go.
Bad for us consumers as choice would reduce.
I suppose it would also make DIY a lot more popular.
I suppose it would only apply to ready made juices and nicotine. But PG and VG as well as flavour concentrates should escape this I hope.
Already happening in Australia. Retailers there only sell flavour bases and you import (for personal use for 3 months) your own nicotine to add.On your point of smaller vendors going out of business...
I would think that a smart(er) small vendor would sell his recipes, in a manner of speaking.
Instead of selling ready-made juice, they could for example, sell flavour bottles. The exact amounts of flavour(s) for that exact juice they used to sell.
Instructions on the bottle would include ratios/amounts of PG, VG, and Nic to mix with the flavouring mixture.
So, we would all buy our PG and VG at dischem, Nicotine from wherever, and flavour bottles from aforementioned vendors, to mix by instruction of the vendor.
Say, VM Monroe... you wouldnt buy caramel, banana, etc separately... you would buy a bottle Monroe flavouring. Same thing as it is now, just minus the base liquids.
Heck... an even smarter vendor would probably figure that selling all their liquids at 0 Nic would bypass such taxes, and we can just buy Nic from somewhere else to add to it.
I honestly do not see any feasible way for the government to tax any of the individual ingredients without SEVERELY ******* up about a million other businesses straight into bankrupcy...
Already happening in Australia. Retailers there only sell flavour bases and you import (for personal use for 3 months) your own nicotine to add.
Interesting.
Poor Aussies though, they get screwed with everything. Videogames as well - ever so slightly too much (the kind that grown up gamers actually like) and they get banned or toned down.
import taxes at 95% just mightIt wouldn't bother me because all of my gear comes from China.
import taxes at 95% just might
that's an America problem don't see how it will affect china --->SAimport taxes at 95% just might
If it hits USA we will be next so yeah it willthat's an America problem don't see how it will affect china --->SA
that's an America problem don't see how it will affect china --->SA
I don't think you getting my point here it has nothing todo with where u get the gear from but if USA apply heavy taxes sa will do the same probably and import taxes will be first .I'm not so sure because China definitely does not follow American policies.
I'm not so sure because China definitely does not follow American policies.
That was perfectly expressed, so clever
I wonder about that too - but I'd like it in 24mg...for that all week buzz
I don't think you getting my point here it has nothing todo with where u get the gear from but if USA apply heavy taxes sa will do the same probably and import taxes will be first .
Yeah, but what would call it if you OD on that one. Cant be silver... Actually seeing as shrooms are fungus you could call it miffed
Unfortunately that is true. we do follow the US market sentiment as well us tax policies fairly closely. If we would get nailed that hard I don't know, but if it does go through in the US we will start paying sin taxes here. We might also see much tighter regulation on the vendors. however, yes we are a growing community, but I don't think we are big enough for the government to really take us seriously.
EDIT:
The other thing to take into account us South Africans ***** to easy, at worst they can do is tax the same as tobacco and alcohol. Our economy is to weak to get nailed that hard. If anything we could even see that they try and ease up the importing of Chines products. The governments ongoing talks and discussions with becoming a trade partner with the Chinese is still to new. if they going to start hitting us hard on tax its going to damage this trade relations. Not as major as say cars or food but it will have an impact on electronics, That is something the SA government would not want to see happen.
The SA government is very clever in terms of who they partner with. Give the Chinese a couple of more years and I believe that the Chinese will be inline to be the next world super power. The American government is not very keen on massive partnerships with the Chinese where we are basically turning into a Chinese colony. I don't believe with regards to tax we have anything to worry about for now.
Some very insightful stuff here bud. I think we will feel it but as you say, maybe not as much as the US. It will still definitely change things though - just by how much is still a bit uncertain right now
PS: I think that's the first time I've ever seen the words "clever" and "SA government" in the same sentence without it including a lot of "not"s