Thanks for sharing. I was thinking of introducing custard in small increments to a MP base and seeing what happens
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Lol, Tiramisu is a bold flavour. For you, liking less flavour, 2.5 % might be pushing the boundary.
Some good ideas here. Added to watchlist.
Just mixed up my first CLY mixes. Just a quick mix session.
30ml mixes of both with Prime Nic. Don't think either of them are going to make a week of steeping. Good thing the rest of my orders are coming in tomorrow so I can make more mixes and these might just get some time.
5% Malva Pudding 70/30 mix 2mg nic
Tested on Tsunami RDA 0.27ohm SS dual coil. Fresh wick with cotton bacon v2
Mixed it up, shook it, ran under hot tap water for a bit, shook the shit out of it and left it for 30 mins. Smells absolutely amazing. Has a slight coconut hint to it, and I am not a big fan of coconut vapes at all but it smells divine.
How does it taste straight after mix and shake?
Initial inhale is slight caramel taste with a sweet undertone. The initial taste is that of store bought pudding. Exhale is a pretty strong coconut taste, very good. Not a fan of coconut, but this lends a certain uniqueness to the taste that actually works really really well. Image a malva pudding without the creamy sauce, but yet not dry either. Not a dry malva pudding cake taste, but yet lacking the creaminess that the sauce gives a baked pudding. A tad chemical taste to it initially but overall still quite good. Needs a bit of a steep I reckon. I will leave it overnight without the cap and report back after I taste in the morning.
4% Naartjie 75/25 mix 3mg nic
Tested on IJoy Tornado 0.32ohm SS (didn't re-wick this, had XXX from VM in it before)
Took half a tank to get the XXX out, but damn what a refreshing naartjie taste. Like you took a piece of naartjie and just bit into it. Exhale of a slight taste of the skin of a naartjie, take the skin and squeeze it into your mouth, that taste but very light. Adds a very nice exhale taste to it. Also a bit chemical but I find that true for most citrus freshly mixed. (I keep going back to this Malva Pudding though lol) I can see this being a good ADV for me, I love naartjie and fruit vapes. Will leave overnight without the cap (About 6 hours before I get up) and report back after I taste in the morning.
Overall very very impressed so far with these flavors. Some of the best flavors right after mixing I've had of any brand. Can't wait to see what they taste like in the morning. They can only get better.
30ml mixes of both with Prime Nic. Don't think either of them are going to make a week of steeping. Good thing the rest of my orders are coming in tomorrow so I can make more mixes and these might just get some time.
5% Malva Pudding 70/30 mix 2mg nic
Tested on Tsunami RDA 0.27ohm SS dual coil. Fresh wick with cotton bacon v2
Mixed it up, shook it, ran under hot tap water for a bit, shook the shit out of it and left it for 30 mins. Smells absolutely amazing. Has a slight coconut hint to it, and I am not a big fan of coconut vapes at all but it smells divine.
How does it taste straight after mix and shake?
Initial inhale is slight caramel taste with a sweet undertone. The initial taste is that of store bought pudding. Exhale is a pretty strong coconut taste, very good. Not a fan of coconut, but this lends a certain uniqueness to the taste that actually works really really well. Image a malva pudding without the creamy sauce, but yet not dry either. Not a dry malva pudding cake taste, but yet lacking the creaminess that the sauce gives a baked pudding. A tad chemical taste to it initially but overall still quite good. Needs a bit of a steep I reckon. I will leave it overnight without the cap and report back after I taste in the morning.
4% Naartjie 75/25 mix 3mg nic
Tested on IJoy Tornado 0.32ohm SS (didn't re-wick this, had XXX from VM in it before)
Took half a tank to get the XXX out, but damn what a refreshing naartjie taste. Like you took a piece of naartjie and just bit into it. Exhale of a slight taste of the skin of a naartjie, take the skin and squeeze it into your mouth, that taste but very light. Adds a very nice exhale taste to it. Also a bit chemical but I find that true for most citrus freshly mixed. (I keep going back to this Malva Pudding though lol) I can see this being a good ADV for me, I love naartjie and fruit vapes. Will leave overnight without the cap (About 6 hours before I get up) and report back after I taste in the morning.
Overall very very impressed so far with these flavors. Some of the best flavors right after mixing I've had of any brand. Can't wait to see what they taste like in the morning. They can only get better.
Fantastic review! My sentiments exactly!
On my last batch of Malva I mixed 5% Malva, 3% Vanilla swirl and 0.3 CLY apricot. This gives it that little extra boost and takes it to a new level. As per previous notes, the custards seems to overpower the Malva but the vanilla swirls enhances it nicely.
I now do Naartjie straight at 4% as part of my daily rotation (just after my Malva!!)
Enjoy and let us know how it progresses!
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Thanks, I don't have vanilla swirl but have whipped cream incoming tomorrow so will test with that as well. I use apricot in my baked version so I will take your recommendation and add it next batch. I actually got the naartjie thanks to your recommendation on the other thread so I should be thanking you instead hehe
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@GregF you indicated in another thread that Clyrolinx would come back to you on their use of ethyl Di Glycol as a carrier and seemingly using oil based extracts. Nothing yet?
This is what Geoff got back from the lab @Andre
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“Hi Geoff
There is massive chemical structure difference between Diethylene glycol (anti-freeze) and Carbitol (diethylene glycol monoethyl ether). The latter is what we use in some of our flavours as the solvent.
Diethylene glycol contains 4 carbon atoms and 10 hydrogen atoms while Carbitol contains 2 more carbon atoms and 3 more Hydrogen atoms. Based on how they are arranged diethylene glycol contains more alcohol groups while Carbitol contains more ether groups. This means Diethylene glycol is much more reactive than Carbitol.
Thus these two are vastly different which means it is not at all the same thing. We only keep food safe solvents on our site which get used in our food flavours.
Your client is welcome to send us reviewed articles and legislation on Carbitol and the use of it in the vaping industry in South Africa.
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And this is what Geoff added himself
Quote:
Just by way of further explanation, as previously advised, our products contain EDG, which is Ethyl di glycol. The full name for this is diethylene glycol monoethyl ether. This is sometimes confused with DEG, which is Diethylene glycol. And as noted above, these are completely different.
However, as also noted above, if anyone has any information that confirms that EDG is unsafe for vaping, they should please let us know. In the meantime, short of any information to the contrary, we assume that our products are safe for vaping. I must also point out that internationally, this product is used in flavours and will most certainly be an ingredient in other international flavours which are used for vaping locally.
Unquote.
Quote:
“Hi Geoff
There is massive chemical structure difference between Diethylene glycol (anti-freeze) and Carbitol (diethylene glycol monoethyl ether). The latter is what we use in some of our flavours as the solvent.
Diethylene glycol contains 4 carbon atoms and 10 hydrogen atoms while Carbitol contains 2 more carbon atoms and 3 more Hydrogen atoms. Based on how they are arranged diethylene glycol contains more alcohol groups while Carbitol contains more ether groups. This means Diethylene glycol is much more reactive than Carbitol.
Thus these two are vastly different which means it is not at all the same thing. We only keep food safe solvents on our site which get used in our food flavours.
Your client is welcome to send us reviewed articles and legislation on Carbitol and the use of it in the vaping industry in South Africa.
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And this is what Geoff added himself
Quote:
Just by way of further explanation, as previously advised, our products contain EDG, which is Ethyl di glycol. The full name for this is diethylene glycol monoethyl ether. This is sometimes confused with DEG, which is Diethylene glycol. And as noted above, these are completely different.
However, as also noted above, if anyone has any information that confirms that EDG is unsafe for vaping, they should please let us know. In the meantime, short of any information to the contrary, we assume that our products are safe for vaping. I must also point out that internationally, this product is used in flavours and will most certainly be an ingredient in other international flavours which are used for vaping locally.
Unquote.
Sorry @Andre this is what I received from Geoff before the last one posted. Just to be transparent.
I’m just waiting for the MSDS from the lab. I’ve reminded them again this morning. They’re doing a thorough investigation to ensure that this product is OK. If not, the flavours which contain it will be removed and re-formulated where possible.
But the amount used is so small that when diluted in PG/VG, it’s almost negligible, so the lab. is already telling me that it’s not a problem.
I’ll get back to you as soon as I receive their e-mail.
I’m just waiting for the MSDS from the lab. I’ve reminded them again this morning. They’re doing a thorough investigation to ensure that this product is OK. If not, the flavours which contain it will be removed and re-formulated where possible.
But the amount used is so small that when diluted in PG/VG, it’s almost negligible, so the lab. is already telling me that it’s not a problem.
I’ll get back to you as soon as I receive their e-mail.
You know what, I already really like Geoff. I haven't had much experience with his products, but he is doing the effort required to ensure the safety of his product and making sure his clients are at ease and we know exactly what we are vaping and putting into our lungs and not being a douche about it. I support that and will be supporting him a lot more in the future.
@GregF thanks for finding out all the information.
@GregF thanks for finding out all the information.
Second what @Caveman said. In the absence of regulation, it's important that vapers themselves take an active interest in what we are putting into our lungs, to safeguard ourselves in the interim. Props to Geoff for working with us on this. It might be a pain for him to do but ultimately, it's worth it if he's putting out a safer product.
Thank you for all your trouble @GregF, much appreciated. I do not know what the well known flavour brands (like FA) use, but shall try to find out.
Mixed up the CLY Naartjie 4% last night and loving it. What a nice single shake and vape!
Also did CLY Malva 5%,TFA Vbic 2% and CLY Apricot .3%, Will revert after some steeping
CLY Rasberry 1.5%,CLY Blackberry 1.5%, CLY Blueberry 3%, CLY Cherry 1.5%, Haven't tried
CLY Menthol 1.5%, Koolada 2%, TFA Strawberry Ripe 7%, Like this but I am a Koolada fan
Anyone had any luck with Milktart, cinnamon fireball, carrot cake yet? Want to play with those tonight
Also did CLY Malva 5%,TFA Vbic 2% and CLY Apricot .3%, Will revert after some steeping
CLY Rasberry 1.5%,CLY Blackberry 1.5%, CLY Blueberry 3%, CLY Cherry 1.5%, Haven't tried
CLY Menthol 1.5%, Koolada 2%, TFA Strawberry Ripe 7%, Like this but I am a Koolada fan
Anyone had any luck with Milktart, cinnamon fireball, carrot cake yet? Want to play with those tonight
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O also some feedback on the NIC from CLY. I mix at 3mg and not getting any peppery taste
Since I am a sucker for sweet things, and all of you are on about malva pudding. I made a small order from CLY.
Malva is the BOMB! You wont regret it... Been on my daily rotation since I got me first taste of it!
I didn't have enough time at VapeCon to buy anything. I had to shoot off somewhere else and the queues were too long. But what you lose on the swings, you gain on the roundabouts. So I now have some bucks to get flavours, woohoo. I'm getting in a bunch of flavours from Cly, including many simple fruits (Apricot, Kiwi, Naartjie, Passion Fruit, Pear, Pineapple, Strawberry), Condensed Milk which FA doesn't do well and others don't do at all, Menthol which HIC reckons is much the same from brand to brand, Malt which intrigues me, and then Hazelnut, English Toffee and Butterscotch just to get a feel for Cly nuts and sweets.
To go with my bunch of Cly fruits, I have FA Custard already (HIC's gelato mixes), and am getting in Cly Ice Cream, FA Lemon Sicily, FA Jamaica Rum, FA Cream Fresh, TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust, Inawera Biscuit and Cactus. Then I'm also trying CAP Chocolate Fudge Brownie v2 and two FA baccy flavours in 7 Leaves and Maxx Blend which HIC reckons are the best and most complete starter flavours for tobacco. I'm not really a cigar or strong tobacco fan.
With this little lot, I should be able to crack out some tasty mixes. Before I pull the trigger, is there anything in there that anybody has had a bad experience with? Any "heading off at the pass" input appreciated.
In other news, my Torrone has come out perfectly. The 1% was a leeetle weak so I added a few more drops, then a few more drops again to get it just right. My totally unscientific guess is that it ended up around 2%. It fits very nicely with my "simple and not too strong" current approach and I'm hitting it constantly on the dripper, with the odd gulp of Irish Coffee in between. I've been sniffing my Tiramisu every day and thankfully it's mellowing nicely. A lot of the initial sharp coffee flavour has gone. I've also mixed some Vapeowave Peanut Butter with TFA Bananas Foster. I would have preferred Banana Nut Bread but I don't have any. I have no idea how it's going to come out. It'll probably be ghastly but hey, if you don't try, you'll never know.
To go with my bunch of Cly fruits, I have FA Custard already (HIC's gelato mixes), and am getting in Cly Ice Cream, FA Lemon Sicily, FA Jamaica Rum, FA Cream Fresh, TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust, Inawera Biscuit and Cactus. Then I'm also trying CAP Chocolate Fudge Brownie v2 and two FA baccy flavours in 7 Leaves and Maxx Blend which HIC reckons are the best and most complete starter flavours for tobacco. I'm not really a cigar or strong tobacco fan.
With this little lot, I should be able to crack out some tasty mixes. Before I pull the trigger, is there anything in there that anybody has had a bad experience with? Any "heading off at the pass" input appreciated.
In other news, my Torrone has come out perfectly. The 1% was a leeetle weak so I added a few more drops, then a few more drops again to get it just right. My totally unscientific guess is that it ended up around 2%. It fits very nicely with my "simple and not too strong" current approach and I'm hitting it constantly on the dripper, with the odd gulp of Irish Coffee in between. I've been sniffing my Tiramisu every day and thankfully it's mellowing nicely. A lot of the initial sharp coffee flavour has gone. I've also mixed some Vapeowave Peanut Butter with TFA Bananas Foster. I would have preferred Banana Nut Bread but I don't have any. I have no idea how it's going to come out. It'll probably be ghastly but hey, if you don't try, you'll never know.
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Two very useful concentrates from FA is Vienna Cream and Lime Tahiti Cold pressed.
Thank you, sir, added. Vienna Cream or Catalan? Or should I get both?
Certainly Vienna, you could go without Catalan if you have Vienna imo. Rather go for FA Coconut, the best of all coconut concentrates.
I check this thread always just to know what flavours i should be ordering. Thanks guys!!
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