Is my Wotofo Troll X DOA?

[ShaneDylan96]

I'm starting to think I bought myself a first batch Troll X because I can not get it to stop leaking now. First wick when I got it, It randomly started leaking after I stopped vaping it for an hour, Second wick went well with leaking underneath AFC ring and then randomly started leaking on day 4, Third wick, Same thing as the first wick... Just started leaking after not using it and now on my fourth wick it's pissing from underneath the AFC ring again... What am I doing wrong? Or is it safe to assume I can throw it in the bin?

 

[Grand Guru]

I’m loving mine and didn’t have any leakages with it but I must say this tank is sooo flimsy and feels cheap so no surprise people are encountering many issues with it.

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

I’m loving mine and didn’t have any leakages with it but I must say this tank is sooo flimsy and feels cheap so no surprise people are encountering many issues with it.

Thanks for that @Grand Guru ... I must admit that I've enjoyed this tank when it's not peeing on my mod, and I agree, it is a flimsy tank, sad really, as it has such potential with its amazing depth of vape ... it seems SMOK's purchase / shareholding of Wotofo also included SMOK's crappy QC ... the good news is that I'm busy fortifying mine at the mo', so you'll have a recipe to resolve its idiosyncrasies should they arise

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

First part done ...
Now off to the shops for some 2mm grub screws, teflon tape and an X-ring

 

[DougP]

I know of 2 people who have lost their mods from this RTA leaking out and flooding the mods internals with juice

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

I know of 2 people who have lost their mods from this RTA leaking out and flooding the mods internals with juice

I almost did a few times too Doug ... thankfully I was at home with tools close by, and them Gen's got stripped and wiped down before the juice could go beyond the mechanical bits

I'm pretty sure this is going to work ... It's a belt an braces approach, sooooo hang in there ... it's around 90% done

2mm grub screws in along with the X-ring ... now it's the teflon tape, folded double and wrapped around twice (it's 0.075mm tape, so there's a 0.3mm crushable interference fit between the chamber and deck)

Then it's coiling, wicking, filling and .... either commiseration, or celebration

 

[DougP]

I almost did a few times too Doug ... thankfully I was at home with tools close by, and them Gen's got stripped and wiped down before the juice could go beyond the mechanical bits

I'm pretty sure this is going to work ... It's a belt an braces approach, sooooo hang in there ... it's around 90% done

2mm grub screws in along with the X-ring ... now it's the teflon tape, folded double and wrapped around twice (it's 0.075mm tape, so there's a 0.3mm crushable interference fit between the chamber and deck)

Then it's coiling, wicking, filling and .... either commiseration, or celebration

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Clearly this tank is a disaster waiting to happen, why would you even try and fix it

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

Clearly this tank is a disaster waiting to happen, why would you even try and fix it

You're right , and therein lies the challenge ... Can I polish the turd?

 

[DougP]

You're right , and therein lies the challenge ... Can I polish the turd?

Maybe you could offer a free mod repair service for people that have purchased this tank and ruined their mods. Based on what I have read on various vape forums you could be busy for a while.

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

Coiled up



Wicked with some serious port stuffing



Not too sure what we call this process? ... "Teflon'd"



She's now juiced up and parking off on a tissue for the evening ... this after a quick 5 hit chain vape

... to be continued ...

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

Maybe you could offer a free mod repair service for people that have purchased this tank and ruined their mods. Based on what I have read on various vape forums you could be busy for a while.

I do that already for mates

 

[Munro31]

Shit boet, you might as well get a Type Two RTA , just about the same amount of work, don't need any extra spares though!

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

Shit boet, you might as well get a Type Two RTA , just about the same amount of work, don't need any extra spares though!

Don't laugh ... I do want one

Sooooo there we were ... rocking 25 Watts on dual plain Ni80 24G @ 0.35 Ohm ...
"Baby Bib" on and still no leaks

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

A quick follow up ...
There were no leaks when I checked the tank this morning

Would I recommend buying this tank ... HELL NO! ... but if you already have one, love the flavour, but have grown tired of it peeing on your shoes .... and have access to an M2 tap, some teflon tape and a Dremel, (ideally a lathe too), and ... have an afternoon free ... then go for it

 

[DougP]

A quick follow up ...
There were no leaks when I checked the tank this morning

Would I recommend buying this tank ... HELL NO! ... but if you already have one, love the flavour, but have grown tired of it peeing on your shoes .... and have access to an M2 tap, some teflon tape and a Dremel, (ideally a lathe too), and ... have an afternoon free ... then go for it

Your persistence is admirable.
I'm sure your mods are breathing a sigh of relief.

 

[MIKE6236]

Got 1 with a bundel deal...

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

Got 1 with a bundel deal...

Put a "bib" on your mod before trying it out

 

[DougP]

Got 1 with a bundel deal...

Don't just don't .... Step away

Gen S & DNA 250c mods both victims to the Troll X and had to be binned

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

Don't just don't .... Step away
Gen S & DNA 250c mods both victims to the Troll X and had to be binned

I am curious Doug ... What PG/VG ratio(s) were used on the leaky Troll?

I adopted a belt and braces approach / fix, so I'll never know if a thicker juice would have resolved the issue

 

[DougP]

I am curious Doug ... What PG/VG ratio(s) were used on the leaky Troll?

I adopted a belt and braces approach / fix, so I'll never know if a thicker juice would have resolved the issue

70/30

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

I just came across this in a seemingly unbiased? review of the Troll X ... Don't get me wrong ...I still believe there are some fundamental flaws in the design, (and manufacture), of this tank

Wicking
This is where the Troll X can be a little tricky! Not impossible by any means but not as forgiving as most RTA’s these days. The wick is doing a lot of work in the X and it has a fair way to travel. Couple this with the possibility of over thinning the wick and it’s probably going to dump all its liquid out of the airflow. It’s an extremely fine line with the X. (Understatement!)

Take your time on the wicking. You want the cotton to be snug but not too tight and you want some thinning action going on. When you place the cotton in the wells it needs to be just barely showing beneath the GTA style platform and you want to ensure that the well is filled but not overstuffed or compacted. (I would argue that ... It needs to be tighter than a frogs butt through the juice ports,as they are badly machined on one side)

As I said before, there are many RTA’s these days that are extremely forgiving when it comes to wicking but the Troll X is just not one of them. If your wicking doesn’t work at first, persevere because the payoff is fantastic flavour when it does. (Agreed! ... this is an amazing tank when it's not pee-ing on your shoes)

 

[MIKE6236]

Might have a little win here on my side.
Thread sealing tape only fix.
Rolled a thin string out of a single strand and placed it under the insulation piece, and another one between the insulation piece and the positive posts. Tightened the crap out of the 510pin.Then just a single wrap around the thread for the chimney.
Previously it was a drained tank in a few minutes.
Now 2 hours with no leak.