Just got an RBA - Help

[John]

I have not used silica before, but afaik you boil it to get the impurities off. I torch my ecowool before using it.

Ok, I have a butane torch - and it sounds easier than boiling it ha ha. I've been watching some pretty insane coil builds on youtube but I think I'll start with regular coils for now, when I get that right then i'll start experimenting, Keep things interesting

 

[John]

Ok so did a quick google search and it seems that ekowool is actually made up of silica

 

[baksteen8168]

Ok, I have a butane torch - and it sounds easier than boiling it ha ha. I've been watching some pretty insane coil builds on youtube but I think I'll start with regular coils for now, when I get that right then i'll start experimenting, Keep things interesting

Hold up! I don't know if you can torch silica. lol. Just now you do and it goes poof. hahaha

 

[baksteen8168]

Ok so did a quick google search and it seems that ekowool is actually made up of silica

Then I guess it should be fine. Try torching a small piece to see if it works.

 

[John]

Then I guess it should be fine. Try torching a small piece to see if it works.

Im sure it'll be fine, I dry-pulse those coils till they're glowing amber and they hold up pretty well

 

[free3dom]

@John on the Lemo there really is almost no wrong coil to build...I've done almost every permutation of single micro coil and they've all just worked great. Try keeping it at around 1.0 - 1.5 Ohm at first, you can dive into the crazy stuff later - first get a satisfying build, and that will 99% of the time be a simple micro coil with a 1.5-2.5 ID (wraps can be calculated based on your desired resistance).

Here is a link to the last single micro coil I built in the Lemo - it was a great vape
And this one was the first micro coil I built in the Lemo (just out of the box) - also a very nice vape

I have some silica, but I've honestly never used it - I stick to cotton. Never tried silica in a kayfun/lemo, but I'm sure it's just fine
Let us know how it turns out

 

[John]

You guys are awesome!

I got both the tanks humming like a navy destroyer heading into war. I must say, I now see what all the hype is about and I honestly can't look at my clearomisers the same again.

This is what worked for me:
Diluting down the juice with VG (and using better quality Vape Elixir juice)
Recoiling the head with a 2.0mm 1.7ohm micro coil (I was aiming for 1.2 but I think I added a wrap or two too many)
Wicking with cotton (The silica was a bit too loose in the coil and after 3 tries getting a decent coil I was over trying again lol)

It was a bit harsh at first but I let the Lemo stand for a bit and now its awesome. I wacked on the RBA bits on the subtank with the stock dual micro-coils at .45ohm and it vapes a bit hot so I'm gonna rebuild the subtank with a 1.0ohm+ coil tomorrow and see how that goes. Vapour production on both tanks is phenomenal and I got my lounge overcast in a few minutes lol. Flavour is not too bad even with the diluted juice, but could definitely be better. I'm running the Lemo at 10w and the subtank at 20w. I'll be sure to document my next build, I was way too eager to get it done this time haha.

So far so good my next mission is DIY juice

 

[free3dom]

Well done @John

It truly is an evolution in vaping when you go RBA...glad you got it working. Now that you have a baseline you can start playing around to find your perfect coil - this is another fun part of vaping

The dual coil setup (especially at .45) will run a bit hot since you need more power to heat them up properly.

BTW...using 28G with 2mm ID you should do 8/7 wraps to get to ~1.2 Ohm...but I frequently over-/undershoot and then just vape the crap out of whatever I ended up with

 

[John]

Lol, what actually happened was I made a 9 wrap coil (because I don't count to well) and then realised I went too far with the last wrap so the free end was pointing the wrong way so I had to add another wrap to get to facing the right way. Learning curve, i'm sure my next build will be closer to perfect. Also I was wrapping the coil sitting on the couch watching TV with the missus (I don't know what the hell was going on in that episode of cold case). I think i'll do future builds downstairs in my workshop where tools are within reach and there are no distractions

My first attempt came in at a whopping 2.7ohm I used the wrong screwdriver, it was too thick

 

[Ricgt]

Lemo vs Subtank (RBA section installed) what are your thoughts so far?

 

[free3dom]

Lol, what actually happened was I made a 9 wrap coil (because I don't count to well) and then realised I went too far with the last wrap so the free end was pointing the wrong way so I had to add another wrap to get to facing the right way. Learning curve, i'm sure my next build will be closer to perfect. Also I was wrapping the coil sitting on the couch watching TV with the missus (I don't know what the hell was going on in that episode of cold case). I think i'll do future builds downstairs in my workshop where tools are within reach and there are no distractions

My first attempt came in at a whopping 2.7ohm I used the wrong screwdriver, it was too thick

Hehe, been there

But really there is no wrong way to do a coil. Every attempt teaches you something about how to (or how not to) build a better coild and before long you'll knock one out while watching TV, making food, or walking the dog

If you do go too many wraps just unwrap and put on the lead (with some pliers) to straighten it out again

 

[JW Flynn]

You guys are awesome!

I got both the tanks humming like a navy destroyer heading into war. I must say, I now see what all the hype is about and I honestly can't look at my clearomisers the same again.

This is what worked for me:
Diluting down the juice with VG (and using better quality Vape Elixir juice)
Recoiling the head with a 2.0mm 1.7ohm micro coil (I was aiming for 1.2 but I think I added a wrap or two too many)
Wicking with cotton (The silica was a bit too loose in the coil and after 3 tries getting a decent coil I was over trying again lol)

It was a bit harsh at first but I let the Lemo stand for a bit and now its awesome. I wacked on the RBA bits on the subtank with the stock dual micro-coils at .45ohm and it vapes a bit hot so I'm gonna rebuild the subtank with a 1.0ohm+ coil tomorrow and see how that goes. Vapour production on both tanks is phenomenal and I got my lounge overcast in a few minutes lol. Flavour is not too bad even with the diluted juice, but could definitely be better. I'm running the Lemo at 10w and the subtank at 20w. I'll be sure to document my next build, I was way too eager to get it done this time haha.

So far so good my next mission is DIY juice

I dont know the percentages for vape elixer's juice, but I think that is already a pretty VG heavy juice.. do not dilute with VG to much as you could start loosing flavour on them pretty quick...

 

[John]

I dont know the percentages for vape elixer's juice, but I think that is already a pretty VG heavy juice.. do not dilute with VG to much as you could start loosing flavour on them pretty quick...

It is somewhat muted but still there. Agree, these juices are a bit heavy on the VG. I used a 1VG:2EJ mix

 

[John]

Lemo vs Subtank (RBA section installed) what are your thoughts so far?

How did I miss this post?

Nice meeting you the other day @Rickgt I cant give an honest opinion just yet but I love the build quality of the Kanger, its so well made. I'm getting to know the Lemo for a couple of days. So far I can say its a great atty and rebuilding it is a piece of cake! Also very sturdy and well made I can see this being one of my favourite tanks - already thinking of getting another one haha.

 

[Ricgt]

Yeah man likewise, hope you are enjoying the BEC Pro! For sure the Lemo is an awesome atty, maybe look at getting the Lemo drop to spice things up a bit. Speaking of descending down the rabbit hole, I couldn't help myself and have a billow and sub tank coming from the awesome folks at Vape club, will be able to do a 3 way comparison...

 

[free3dom]

Yeah man likewise, hope you are enjoying the BEC Pro! For sure the Lemo is an awesome atty, maybe look at getting the Lemo drop to spice things up a bit. Speaking of descending down the rabbit hole, I couldn't help myself and have a billow and sub tank coming from the awesome folks at Vape club, will be able to do a 3 way comparison...

Oooo, a Ménage à trois
Let us know what you think of them

 

[Frank Zef]

Sweet! I have Vapers Toolbox already, It actually inspired me to develop a better Vaping app - hope to have it in the stores by around 2nd or 3rd quarter 2015

Please tell us that you are building an iOS version too.


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[John]

I'm starting on the iOS version

 

[Arthster]

This is a little late in the tread, but maybe it will help someone. I noticed all the silica builds I have done left a funky after taste. I am not sure if silica wicks slower or if there is something to silica that affects me, but my best builds have been with proper cotton.

 

[John]

I tend to stay away from silica for the simple reason that the wick I have is 1mm and I haven't built any coils smaller than 2mm ID thus far. The great thing about silica is that it doesn't burn but cotton is cheap as chips so one can afford to rewick regularly. I rarely vape a single flavour more than a tank full at a time anyway so I'd go through lots of silica!

 

[Arthster]

I also found especially on the Kayfun that you can pack the wick into the juice channels easier with cotton then with silica. but again that''s just me, I know allot of people feel different to me.

I agree with the fact cotton is cheap, and if you re wick often then its a winner. I personally rewick 3 -4 times a week.

 

[John]

I find myself re wicking with every flavour change so basically every day lol

 

[Arthster]

yeah then I would stay with cotton.

 

[SunRam]

I dont know the percentages for vape elixer's juice, but I think that is already a pretty VG heavy juice.. do not dilute with VG to much as you could start loosing flavour on them pretty quick...

Vape Elixir is 50/50 PG/VG

 

[JW Flynn]

Vape Elixir is 50/50 PG/VG

That is good to know... always thought it was VG heavy as it produced more than normal amounts of vapour Still loving the Black Cigar, not a daily vape anymore but ja, hit some up every now and then, love it...