Kanger Squonkbox?!

Nice! Love the lines of the new config - better proportions to my eye. I know, I know... it's supposed to be all about the vape, but I'm a sucker for design and composition.

I, for one, will be eager to hear how it holds up as an all-day carry.

Just for shiggles, you should try your snappy on it.
 
Nice! Love the lines of the new config - better proportions to my eye. I know, I know... it's supposed to be all about the vape, but I'm a sucker for design and composition.

I, for one, will be eager to hear how it holds up as an all-day carry.

Just for shiggles, you should try your snappy on it.
No Way, @Papa_Lazarou .......Snappy vs. P67........or maybe Snappy vs. ............wait and see.:lipssealed:
 
Now, I made a 0,21ohm Ni80 built in my Radius atty. Now man, this is a kick ass vape. 10/10. Super duper awesome. This little device will definitely be my carry around device. The atty match quite nicely IMO.
Pics or it didnt happen. :p
 
I got to play with one today.. granted @BigGuy had rebuilt the coils with Ni80 and I have to say I was pretty impressed with the device and the vape it produced. I really wanted to hate the device but they did a good job and for those that want to try squonking this is a great buy! I was tempted to get one just to take fishing because if it went overboard I wouldn't be that sad... but in the end I resisted because I have plenty of perfect squonkers and and they are insured. The only REO that is irreplaceable is Original Engraved Avril and she never leaves the house.

Bottom line a great buy at the price!
 
Hi Guys. So eventually I got the Kangertech Squonker. My thoughts: For a vaper who want to try squonking, perfect. Decent quality, no leaking, good squonking, better than average bottles, decent to perfect hit. Downside: An A+ shitty atty. Now this is where the fun/war starts. I am used to RM2, OL16, Nuppin, Snapdragon attys. Unfortunately you cant compare, it issss expensive, but worth the money. Now, I will try my Radius atty, also a high end atty, but at an average price. If it works you will have a winner at the 60 watts. My verdict as a Reonaut: The kit with the Kangertech atty 4/10. The mod at its own 7/10. So with a decent atty this is sure a winner for a entry level squonker.

I have no experience with owning drippers but I'm planning to get a Dripbox, so my question is, what makes it a shitty atty? The build deck? The vapor production? Throat hit? The flavor? Anything else?

I was never a smoker so I only vape for the flavor, only 0mg, and i don't care about building my own coils. I only care about two things - leaking and flavor. If it doesn't leak and the flavor is better than any non-dripping tank then that's all I want. Does the atty pass in that regard?
 
I have no experience with owning drippers but I'm planning to get a Dripbox, so my question is, what makes it a shitty atty? The build deck? The vapor production? Throat hit? The flavor? Anything else?

Can't comment on the stock atty that comes with the Drip Box as I haven't tried one but I can comment on your question.

You pretty much nailed it - atties can "fail" (in quotes because a fail for one person might not be for another - it's a highly subjective call) due to build decks, vapour production (specifically, air flow), and flavour production.

Some build decks are easy to build on, other not so much (some downright painful). Again, this can be subjective - some folks swear by 2-post atties, others by block center posts, and a whole host of other physical features of the platform you get to build with.

Air flow can make or break an atty for you and it really depends on your preferences. There can be too much air for some, too little for others. To accommodate for this range in need, most atties have afc (a way to adjust the amount of air taken in to the atty), but even then an atty can be too "loose" for a MTL vaper or to "tight" for a DLH'er. Strongly tied to this is the actual build (coil or coils) you put in it - this will largely determine the amount of air the build needs to produce vapour as you'd like it (again, emphasis on "as you'd like it").

Flavour (a big item, BTW, for most any vaper) can be a very elusive thing for all atties. Most everyone wants more rather than less, and in general, smaller chambered atties will outproduce larger chambered atties in this regard. We're talking 14mm atties like the Graal, Viper, or Chalice compared to 22 or 24mm atties like the Velocity or Kennedy. Before fans of the larger atties lynch me on this, you can get great flavour from the larger atties but you generally need a lot of air and take in a lot of vapour, so what I'm saying is that flavour is greater per cubic unit of vapour with a smaller atty.

So, an atty can be a fail for you in terms of flavour if it just needs to be vaped to get it in a different way from the way you like to vape.

Some atties, however, just plain fail (or at least lag behind their contemporaries) no matter the build or how you vape them. They can be easy peasy to build, produce huge monster clouds, provide the perfect amount of air.... and be meh for flavour.

With respect to throat hit, I've always found this to be much more a function of nic concentration in the juice and the amount of PG in the juice (the higher the amount of either increasing the TH), rather than an atty or build effect.

Sooo... a "fail" for an atty can be the result of any combination of the above and it's very subjective. And that's not even considering the juice used, which can sometimes make or break the setup in any atty. What works in one atty with a particular build might be ass in another.

As a a side note, squonking has a couple of other atty considerations - leaking and drainage. Because what we do is squeeze juice into the atty to wet the wicks, it can be a problem to have juice leak out (usually through the air holes). Related to that, if an atty won't drain the excess juice back into the bottle well, that can be an issue.
 
I have no experience with owning drippers but I'm planning to get a Dripbox, so my question is, what makes it a shitty atty? The build deck? The vapor production? Throat hit? The flavor? Anything else?

I was never a smoker so I only vape for the flavor, only 0mg, and i don't care about building my own coils. I only care about two things - leaking and flavor. If it doesn't leak and the flavor is better than any non-dripping tank then that's all I want. Does the atty pass in that regard?
@Baker this is a great start point for dripping and squonking, and I am pretty sure you will enjoy the device. Please keep in mind this is a lung hitter, not really for Mouth to Lung vaping. The adjustable airflow is great for adjusting the throat hits. Please keep in mind @Petrus is a Reonault, and his experience on Bottom Fed atomisers far out weighs most vapers, so the dripbox's stock coil and atomizer will not do the job for his vaping needs and palate.

I am loving the device, and have purchased a separate BF RDA, cause the convenience of this device is great. I think if Kanger's sales are good on the dripbox, we may see different versions being released in coming months and years, with power and/or temp control etc.

60 watts is not enough for some of my insane dripper buddies, but for the majority of us noobies, this device is a great pocket dripper. I am so impressed with this squonker that I have purchased 3 other squonkers (other brands)
 
@Baker this is a great start point for dripping and squonking, and I am pretty sure you will enjoy the device. Please keep in mind this is a lung hitter, not really for Mouth to Lung vaping. The adjustable airflow is great for adjusting the throat hits. Please keep in mind @Petrus is a Reonault, and his experience on Bottom Fed atomisers far out weighs most vapers, so the dripbox's stock coil and atomizer will not do the job for his vaping needs and palate.

I am loving the device, and have purchased a separate BF RDA, cause the convenience of this device is great. I think if Kanger's sales are good on the dripbox, we may see different versions being released in coming months and years, with power and/or temp control etc.

60 watts is not enough for some of my insane dripper buddies, but for the majority of us noobies, this device is a great pocket dripper. I am so impressed with this squonker that I have purchased 3 other squonkers (other brands)
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@Baker this is a great start point for dripping and squonking, and I am pretty sure you will enjoy the device. Please keep in mind this is a lung hitter, not really for Mouth to Lung vaping. The adjustable airflow is great for adjusting the throat hits. Please keep in mind @Petrus is a Reonault, and his experience on Bottom Fed atomisers far out weighs most vapers, so the dripbox's stock coil and atomizer will not do the job for his vaping needs and palate.

I am loving the device, and have purchased a separate BF RDA, cause the convenience of this device is great. I think if Kanger's sales are good on the dripbox, we may see different versions being released in coming months and years, with power and/or temp control etc.

60 watts is not enough for some of my insane dripper buddies, but for the majority of us noobies, this device is a great pocket dripper. I am so impressed with this squonker that I have purchased 3 other squonkers (other brands)
@WARMACHINE, what atty did you get?
 
That is excellent to hear, the reason I mentioned the stock atty is purely, because I am so damn impressed with this mod. I think if they made the stock atty so that you could change the drip tip I would have scored the atty more. With the stock built and doing lung hits it gets quite warm. I see on Kangertechs website all the Dripbox's is sold out. Vape Decadence now got a good deal on their's.
 
Can't comment on the stock atty that comes with the Drip Box as I haven't tried one but I can comment on your question.

You pretty much nailed it - atties can "fail" (in quotes because a fail for one person might not be for another - it's a highly subjective call) due to build decks, vapour production (specifically, air flow), and flavour production.

Some build decks are easy to build on, other not so much (some downright painful). Again, this can be subjective - some folks swear by 2-post atties, others by block center posts, and a whole host of other physical features of the platform you get to build with.

Air flow can make or break an atty for you and it really depends on your preferences. There can be too much air for some, too little for others. To accommodate for this range in need, most atties have afc (a way to adjust the amount of air taken in to the atty), but even then an atty can be too "loose" for a MTL vaper or to "tight" for a DLH'er. Strongly tied to this is the actual build (coil or coils) you put in it - this will largely determine the amount of air the build needs to produce vapour as you'd like it (again, emphasis on "as you'd like it").

Flavour (a big item, BTW, for most any vaper) can be a very elusive thing for all atties. Most everyone wants more rather than less, and in general, smaller chambered atties will outproduce larger chambered atties in this regard. We're talking 14mm atties like the Graal, Viper, or Chalice compared to 22 or 24mm atties like the Velocity or Kennedy. Before fans of the larger atties lynch me on this, you can get great flavour from the larger atties but you generally need a lot of air and take in a lot of vapour, so what I'm saying is that flavour is greater per cubic unit of vapour with a smaller atty.

So, an atty can be a fail for you in terms of flavour if it just needs to be vaped to get it in a different way from the way you like to vape.

Some atties, however, just plain fail (or at least lag behind their contemporaries) no matter the build or how you vape them. They can be easy peasy to build, produce huge monster clouds, provide the perfect amount of air.... and be meh for flavour.

With respect to throat hit, I've always found this to be much more a function of nic concentration in the juice and the amount of PG in the juice (the higher the amount of either increasing the TH), rather than an atty or build effect.

Sooo... a "fail" for an atty can be the result of any combination of the above and it's very subjective. And that's not even considering the juice used, which can sometimes make or break the setup in any atty. What works in one atty with a particular build might be ass in another.

As a a side note, squonking has a couple of other atty considerations - leaking and drainage. Because what we do is squeeze juice into the atty to wet the wicks, it can be a problem to have juice leak out (usually through the air holes). Related to that, if an atty won't drain the excess juice back into the bottle well, that can be an issue.

Loved this post of yours @Papa_Lazarou
You nailed it!
Your comment about flavour per square inch was just so well explained ;-)

Something which I have grappled with explaining is the difference between vapour volume and flavour accuracy. It seems when some people say "more flavour" they are referring to more vapour.
 
Loved this post of yours @Papa_Lazarou
You nailed it!
Your comment about flavour per square inch was just so well explained ;-)

Something which I have grappled with explaining is the difference between vapour volume and flavour accuracy. It seems when some people say "more flavour" they are referring to more vapour.

Well, thank you, sir.

I think the subject of flavour is a deep, deep topic, particularly when you're talking about a complex juice. Most folks I talk to talk about more flavour as "more intense" something - like turning a crappy stereo up louder. I like to 'hear' all the notes of the juice - like using a better amp and speakers, not necessarily loudly. To me, that's more flavour.

Sure, a baseline amount of flavour intensity is required - too muted in general is nonplussing - but to sense each note in a 6 ingredient juice is sublime and it doesn't have to be in your face.
 
Loved this post of yours @Papa_Lazarou
You nailed it!
Your comment about flavour per square inch was just so well explained ;-)

Something which I have grappled with explaining is the difference between vapour volume and flavour accuracy. It seems when some people say "more flavour" they are referring to more vapour.
@Silver, that post of @Papa_Lazarou is so full of information, but what bugs me is why is the Snapdragon such a flavour beast in comparison with say the Nuppin and OL16? It is a much bigger atty. The airflow is from under the coils. Could it be the reason?
 
@Silver, that post of @Papa_Lazarou is so full of information, but what bugs me is why is the Snapdragon such a flavour beast in comparison with say the Nuppin and OL16? It is a much bigger atty. The airflow is from under the coils. Could it be the reason?

I'd hazard a guess that air flow dynamics play a big part, but more likely it's air intake proximity to the coil(s) and the physics of the flow coming out from the intakes rather than orientation (from the bottom).

You can get 3rd party caps for the snappy that reduce the chamber size and the flavour is not appreciably better (IME).
 
I received my dripbox earlier this week. Never used a dripper or squonker this is a totally different ballgame. Loving this. Chain vaping it non stop

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I received my dripbox earlier this week. Never used a dripper or squeaker this is a totally different ballgame. Loving this. Chain vaping it non stop

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@Lehan , I promise you if you buy another atty, you wont put it down. The stock atty is good, but you will really appreciate the mod say with a Velocity BF atty, it is like a new world.
 
I will most definitely look for one. Seen as I'll have to stock up on more juice within next week. Who sells the velocity bf atty?

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Can someone recommend a good MTL BF available locally? Preferably single coil.
 
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