Level 6 Water Restrictions - Cape Town

Apologies @Raindance.... Seems I was asleep too!!!! Can't even fix it now as the next reader would be completely confuzzed......
 
@Andre @blujeenz Thanks for sharing the info on the water distiller.

R3,805 from Go Natural (Somerset West)
https://shop.gonatural.co.za/water-...h-polly-propylene-pp-collector-bottle-46.html
@Raindance I've ordered this one but I'm having it delivered.

R6,595 from Naturalwise
https://www.naturalwise.co.za/Water-Distiller-Waterwise-4000-Countertop-Semi-Automatic-

R6,995 from Faithful to Nature
https://www.faithful-to-nature.co.za/waterwise-4000-countertop-distiller?

I was in such a hurry to order, that I ordered one from Naturalwise @R6,595. Much later I found a cheaper one at Go Natural. I've ordered that one too, to be delivered. I'll keep the cheaper one in the box - won't even open the box - and sell it at the same price that I paid. I'll also supply the invoice as the warranty. @Raindance or anyone else - if you're interested let me know. I can meet you in Tableview, saving you a trip out to Somerset West.

I reckon this unit WILL be worth it - when it finally rains. I'll use it to purify the water from my JoJo.
 
This is handy to keep by the basin in the bathroom and kitchen, so that only a little water is used. It works perfectly - my builder made one for me! If you want just a little water to come out, open the top just a little. The more you open the top, the more water comes out.

 
@Andre @blujeenz Thanks for sharing the info on the water distiller.

R3,805 from Go Natural (Somerset West)
https://shop.gonatural.co.za/water-...h-polly-propylene-pp-collector-bottle-46.html
@Raindance I've ordered this one but I'm having it delivered.

R6,595 from Naturalwise
https://www.naturalwise.co.za/Water-Distiller-Waterwise-4000-Countertop-Semi-Automatic-

R6,995 from Faithful to Nature
https://www.faithful-to-nature.co.za/waterwise-4000-countertop-distiller?

I was in such a hurry to order, that I ordered one from Naturalwise @R6,595. Much later I found a cheaper one at Go Natural. I've ordered that one too, to be delivered. I'll keep the cheaper one in the box - won't even open the box - and sell it at the same price that I paid. I'll also supply the invoice as the warranty. @Raindance or anyone else - if you're interested let me know. I can meet you in Tableview, saving you a trip out to Somerset West.

I reckon this unit WILL be worth it - when it finally rains. I'll use it to purify the water from my JoJo.
Thanks for the offer @Hooked. Actually have one in a shopping basket but my intuition is messing with my logic. Or maybe, it is because this is posing a serious threat to my vape budget...

You know you are a vaper when: You put vaping at a higher priority than survival.

Eisch!
 
this is 1 of the water collection points in Claremont which is by the way on the grounds of SAB.
SAB has been using this very same water for their business since "toeka se dae" forever.View attachment 121049
Its time they come to the party.

When was that photo taken? I live just around the corner from there and all the roads around this spring are borderline gridlocked. That entire area is packed full of people all day long. Police 24/7. And that's the spring where the fight broke out (from my previous post)
 
@Andre @blujeenz Thanks for sharing the info on the water distiller.

R3,805 from Go Natural (Somerset West)
https://shop.gonatural.co.za/water-...h-polly-propylene-pp-collector-bottle-46.html
@Raindance I've ordered this one but I'm having it delivered.

R6,595 from Naturalwise
https://www.naturalwise.co.za/Water-Distiller-Waterwise-4000-Countertop-Semi-Automatic-

R6,995 from Faithful to Nature
https://www.faithful-to-nature.co.za/waterwise-4000-countertop-distiller?

I was in such a hurry to order, that I ordered one from Naturalwise @R6,595. Much later I found a cheaper one at Go Natural. I've ordered that one too, to be delivered. I'll keep the cheaper one in the box - won't even open the box - and sell it at the same price that I paid. I'll also supply the invoice as the warranty. @Raindance or anyone else - if you're interested let me know. I can meet you in Tableview, saving you a trip out to Somerset West.

I reckon this unit WILL be worth it - when it finally rains. I'll use it to purify the water from my JoJo.

Bit of a bummer, but not a total trainsmash.
Hang onto it for a while, if water service is disrupted it can only cause the price of those entry level distillers to rocket.
The next cheapest in the range from the counter top distillers is R21000.
 
@Huffapuff like I said mismanagement.if they had planned right and I remember in the 1980's we had a similar issue we could have gotten away with lower rainfall.but diverting water to Steenbras.my wife heard a story about about them pumping out dams and back washing for farms.
I don't know about it have not seen it and won't comment.
last year we could saw Steenbras has dropped.this year its full.so what you are telling me is they spent money diverting rivers and other dams to Steenbrass dam.wasn't that the natural route water used before they built the dam some hundred years ago.they spending so many millions on changing street names and broadening roads and I honestly think they don't give a shit, because I know they don't give a shit as it does not affect them that bad.think about the people that can't afford bottled water which is the majority mismanagement by the government and the local government including the D.A.
as Helen zilla.last year she said on good hope FM she is doing her part by installing a pool cover.I think she would have done her part by filling her pool with sand and lead by example but I will be wrong today but there are people that believe I am right.take a drive through Durbanville vineyards and then a drive through stellenbosch .then take a drive through Somerset all the food and farms and livestock west.its being sold to build houses but all the winefarms is growing bigger because the money is there.so politics sucks especially here
 
@Resistance I hear you. Our local govt seriously underestimated the water supply problem, despite warnings from experts for years. Their focus has been on scoring political points (like building houses for the poor and changing street names) rather than infrastructure for what Helen Zille called a 1 in 400 chance of becoming an issue (talking about the chance of water restrictions a few years back). But thinking a drought which has a 1 in 400 chance of happening is the only problem doesn't excuse their not seeing the quadrupling of Cape Town's population over the last decade or so as being of pressing concern. Cape Town has always had water issues, and when the city goes from a population of 1mil to over 4mil so quickly obviously there is going to be a crisis!

Don't think this crisis isn't going to effect the DA - it may not effect them on a personal level (the rich always have it easier), but they're going to get hammered by the ANC come election time.

On the farms thing - I lived on a wine farm for several years and vines don't use a lot of water. I would see them being watered maybe once or twice during summer, so if vineyards are green it's not necessarily because they're being watered.
 
@Huffapuff you got a point to a certain extent and so do I. and you are right I'm saying that vineyards don't use much water but that makes for sour grapes,I've been on a farm too. wasn't going to go into the housing politics of this country but seeing that you mention it...they have been building social housing for I don't know how long and its not done.
when you come from the airport then all you see is shacks some double storey and all with satellites but still shacks.then you see foreigners driving some of the nicest cars and living in the nicest houses and some with decent cats and houses.what is sad is we sending electricity to other countries and their population is here.and then we sent water to them and still they are here and we send food and yet they are still here...but the twist is they own the houses and cars and yes some of them rent but that's the minority and the poor South African folk are refused these necessities/amenities(meant as the things that make life more comfortable)
that's why they sent Trevor Noah to the states so he can focus on someone else's politics as he ratted them out.
back to water shortage...I know where to get it and so do you, we can have a vape meet at the dam
 
Standing back and trying to see the other side of the coin, the proverbial silver lining to this crappy situation.

The electricity shortage of a while back resulted in a nationwide awareness of the need to use electricity sparingly. The large scale use of low energy lighting and alternative energy resources such as gas heaters etc. did result in more disciplined use of this resource.

Further back, in the late seventies, the oil crisis had a similar effect on a global scale. OPEC had us by the short and curly's and decided to twist and turn just to show whom is boss. As a result fuel efficiency became the key focus of most manufacturers. Indirectly, these events did more for the reduction of carbon emissions than any other campaign since.

If indeed history does repeat itself, we will in future remain far more efficient and aware of our water usage with a marked and lasting reduction in usage.
Although history shows a positive response to lessons learned in crisis situations it is not all good news. During times of shortage, prices go up. These do not come down as demand is reduced and supply is restored. We all feel the fuel price and cost of electricity. Sometime supply costs do reduce but suppliers keep prices high siting funding needs as justification.

We are all aware that our fuel price is hugely inflated by taxes and levies, at the time motivated by crisis situations but the majority of which are now used to fund unrelated issues. Many years back property rates and taxes were introduced to ensure uninterrupted supply of basic services such as water, sanitation and electricity. Funds suposedly now used to supply these services to those not paying for it. I am not saying we should not support the under privileged, it is critical we do, I am saying that you must ensure those funding these services get what they are paying for else your funding will dry up. At the very least, this support of the poor, and consumption of the wealthy, should be managed and not be offered as a cornucopia of limitless supply.

This brings me to the social angle of this dilemma. Any population consists of three classes. The poor, the self sufficient and the wealthy. According to some Italian economist's globally accepted theory, 80% of the worlds wealth is situated with 20% of its population. I our country (Ballpark figures estimated based on media and general observation) we have 50% poor, 35% self sufficient and 15% wealthy. And despite political propaganda, these divides are not based on race or gender.

The wealthy just don't care. Water at R1 000.00 per kiloliter, no problem. I will wash my designer spandex cycling suite whenever I want to.
The poor. We demand...
In effect we are thus relying on a middle class consisting of only 35% of the population to be responsible for adopting the necessary attitude to ensure the sustainability of supply for the entire 100%. This is not sustainable and if this trend continues with more and more stress on their financial resources, attrition in this group will result in a decreasing middle class needing to fund an ever increasing under privileged group. The end result, no middle class and no funding.

History also teaches us what happens when society looses its middle class and the poor masses become intolerant of the wealthy few. I guess the silver lining I am searching for is that history has shown us the future and we should therefore have the motivation to change our trajectory. All we need now is a leadership that has the balls (and brains) to do what needs to be done irrespective of popular opinion and the expectations/pressures of big money.

The only remaining question: Who?

Regards
 
@Huffapuff you got a point to a certain extent and so do I. and you are right I'm saying that vineyards don't use much water but that makes for sour grapes,I've been on a farm too. wasn't going to go into the housing politics of this country but seeing that you mention it...they have been building social housing for I don't know how long and its not done.
when you come from the airport then all you see is shacks some double storey and all with satellites but still shacks.then you see foreigners driving some of the nicest cars and living in the nicest houses and some with decent cats and houses.what is sad is we sending electricity to other countries and their population is here.and then we sent water to them and still they are here and we send food and yet they are still here...but the twist is they own the houses and cars and yes some of them rent but that's the minority and the poor South African folk are refused these necessities/amenities(meant as the things that make life more comfortable)
that's why they sent Trevor Noah to the states so he can focus on someone else's politics as he ratted them out.
back to water shortage...I know where to get it and so do you, we can have a vape meet at the dam

@Resistance It's good to know that some people have "decent cats" ;)
 
Just get one of those metal straws people keep pushing as an alternative to plastic straws, sharpen the edge and drink your neighbors until the rain comes back.
 
it might take a few years but one day you are going to say...That Chap Resistance was right.
statistics didn't and history didn't account for the increase in population as s it did since south Africa became free as
 
yes my post disappeared again.to cut a long story short...
I'll be here out of the proverbial box and checking in from time to time...
I will let the government run this country on historical events and historical statistics and see how this story plays out
 
"History also teaches us what happens when society looses its middle class and the poor masses become intolerant of the wealthy few. I guess the silver lining I am searching for is that history has shown us the future and we should therefore have the motivation to change our trajectory."

so I see now why we import middle class
 
if I'm offending anyone with this statement sorry but so be it...ignorance is bliss.
don't come with last Years history to analyse the future come with at least a mallenia of data.and you are free to purchase and by what you want that's at least how the middle class keep the jse going.(apart from the imports that exports currency)
 
A long read, but worth it.

By Bart Henderson
- leading Author, lecturer, analyst and columnist. Responsible for major fraud investigations.

WHAT DO I THINK IS REALLY GOING ON BEHIND THE CAPE TOWN WATER CRISIS?

I've been asked a few times. So I've taken a bit of time to answer to save airtime and circumvent the inability to do so adequately on whatsapp or Twitter

So let me get this straight. #Drought #WesternCape #DayZero : This has taken me quite a while to figure out. Cape Town is facing running out of water. A major metropole. The implications do not affect Cape Town or Western Cape. The implications affect the whole nation.

Granted the citizens on the coal face are Capetonians but make no mistake the citizens of South Africa will feel the pain.

The Cape is a material contributor to the national economy. There are millions of citizens around the country who have family, relatives and friends living in the Western Cape.

What is staring a major metropole in the face is a reflection of what is and has been happening in increasing numbers of small and large towns across the country.

This latter fact has been largely ignored. Out of sight out of mind. Its out in the open now.

This water crises is about BULK water supply and who controls it.

That's it, nothing more.

It's about power.

Under law the Western Cape government can NOT supply BULK water. This means under law Western Cape Government cannot build dams or engage in any activity related to making provision for their own future water security.

Bulk water supply is the exclusive purview of the National Department of Water Affairs and Sanitation (DWAS) under a Minister in the ANC Government and this purview extends to every drop of water stored and supplied in BULK (Dams and one day DESALINATION PLANTS) in the whole of South Africa.

As recently as 14 December 2017, the Minister of Water Affairs sent a letter to Hellen Zille instructing the Western Cape Government, or advising if you prefer, that Government had appointed Umgeni Water out of Kwazulu Natal to come solve the problem by building a desalination plant in Cape Town.

The directive goes on to reference a site at the V&A Waterfront, the exact site earmarked by the Western Cape Government months ago in their emergency response to the looming catastrophe.

However in the case of the Western Cape Government response, their plans are in a far advanced stage, with EOI and tenders in some instances concluded.

Changing course now will delay the building of this desalination plant by months.

So what gives?

Well Umgeni Water is where Government redeployed Dudu Myeni after she brought SAA to its knees.

She is a master of obfuscation, dishonesty, deceit and deception.

The Ministers directive is meant to portray Government taking charge and coming to the rescue, when in fact it's about who controls the capital expense and who gets the tender.

In October 2017 newspaper reports indicate Umgeni Water might soon be in need of a R3billion bailout.

Newspapers also ran stories regarding an interim Board being appointed at 'embattled' Umgeni Water by Minister Nomvula Mokonyane.

Newspapers reported a letter to Mokonyane, lawyers acting for asset manager Futuregrowth accused the minister of illegally appointing Msizi Cele as both Umgeni's acting chief executive and accounting officer; illegally replacing Cele with Thami Hlongwa in both positions; and giving herself the power to appoint chief executives.

Futuregrowth holds Umgeni Water bonds as Asset Manager for Old Mutual.

So let's get this straight.

You have a patently tainted SOE dispatched with alacrity to solve a water crises by a Minister in a patently tainted Government controlled by a patently tainted Zuma cabinet in a Province controlled by an opposition party, in the greater interests of its citizens who voted against you.

A province that already has the distinction of having the only major metropole with its entire main line shut down. Another service under the exclusive purview of National Government provided by SOE Metro Rail and Transnet.

Imagine the SOWETO main line being shut down indefinitely.

Coincidence?

I don't think so. But that's another story.

It's about many, many things.

But really it's about the HIV/AIDS pandemic and Government response under Mbeki. When we turned to beetroot and cabbage remedy mentality in response to a catastrophe that many suggest claimed 300 000 lives.

I strongly suspect it was the realisation of money to be made that shifted government policy from beetroot to condoms and ARV's hence their obsession with the supply of former and latter with safer sex campaigns almost non existent today.

It's about the demonstration of total contempt for the value of human lives.

It's also about gross mismanagement, gross inefficiency, gross negligence, gross incompetence, gross ignorance, gross shortsightedness, ostrich mentality and State Capture.

Which in turn are all about who has the power and who controls the water once it starts flowing again because they will control the revenue and the province and with that a leverage of power.

Which point to deliberate and consequential political, economic and industrial sabotage on a devastating scale by the ANC central Government against the entire people of the Western Cape.

If you think of the current national government as some benevolent uncle you are deeply mistaken as mistaken in thinking National Government is dealing with the crises with any genuine intent, appetite or desire much less honesty, transparency or genuine concern for its people.

Do you really believe after years of scandals, of corruption, ineptitude and plunder the Government has all of a sudden turned some invisible corner?

After being fed a daily diet of bile, a diet of abuse of power, abuse of state, abuse of resources and revenue, of patronage, State capture and haemoraging economy by National Government are you still going to suggest this crises belongs anywhere else whatsoever other than on the shoulders of those who own it?

I think not.

If you think Provincial Government are getting any bi-partisan co-operation, to resolve this crises from Zuma''s government you've got flies in your brains.

The Western Cape is the potential trigger point for a hoped for and intended national disaster I am increasingly coming to strongly suspect.

Business Day, 29 January 2018 - "Cape Town risks having its municipal bonds cut to junk by Moody’s because of its water crisis.

"Two of Cape Town’s main industries, tourism and agriculture, are likely to decline [because of the water crisis], reducing employment, gross value added and tax income," Moody’s associate analyst Daniel Mazibuko wrote in a research note released on Monday.

"Other effects include threats to public health from poor sanitation and, more generally, to social order, which is significant given Cape Town’s marked income inequality.""

What this is saying in a nutshell is that Cape Town as ground zero is potentially the epicenter of potential civil unrest which will start among the poor and spread to engulf the entire pininsula and beyond.

If ever the time and opportunity were present to fan the flames of anarchy, dissention and revolution in this country for the many being primed to hate by a post Mandela ANC, this is it.

It has the potential to prove the ideal recipe for state intervention leading to a state of emergency, the imposition of martial law and very possibly lead to wider civil unrest and even civil war.

All of this while Zuma remains in power and ultimate control of the ANC Government and supported by a minority by smallest of margin of most those belonging to the ANC Political Party.

So when next you read or talk about the crises in Western Cape ask your self who stands to lose most by not finding a solution and who stands to gain most by one not being found.

Then ask yourself who has the power to do something.

If the one with the power to do something also happens to be the one who benefits the most from infrastructure, service and delivery collapse, it stands to reason they have a conflict of interest.

It is a conflict that arises naturally out of the conflation of Party and State, where the political party sees itself as the State because they are the majority party in Government.

Which of course they're not because we are after all a multi party Democracy.

The ANC furthers the aims of its supporters and State furthers the aims of the people.

There is not a shadow of doubt in my mind that the crises unfolding in the Western Cape is in great part attributable to a corrupt and dysfunctional ANC.

There is little to sweet bugger all Western Cape Government can do about it except try alert people and do whatever they can to get people to use less water.

This in the face of social media campaign's of 'unknown' origin openly encouraging the grand scale wastage of tap water to push the City of Cape Town over the brink and into total anarchy.

In my mind this is no more or less just another opportunity to open a new front in a political, economic and ideological war steeped in race based dogma and hate.

The sooner the people of the Western Cape realise how much they are despised and resented by their ANC government and the sooner they realise what their elected Provincial government is up against the better.

So thank all of you who've been asking for my analysis of late of the situation in the Western Cape.

After many attempts to answer on the fly and time it takes I decided to write it down so you and others who want can read it at your leasure.

Please if you think my analysis or hypothesis have merit please send to your friends.

Finally, vasbyt. Be kind to one another. Stand together and help anyone you can. Above all SAVE WATER as if your life depend on it. Start petitions and demand Central Government release your taxes to Western Cape Government to build desalination plants now and to fund other measures.

If it's about control, Province can build it and allow Government to buy it back.gg

So stop shouting at Province and start shouting at Government.p
 
Mr Henderson calls himself an author and columnist.... This piece is so badly written, that for me, it casts doubt on it's validity. It may or may not be true, certainly there are some facts here, but then, conspiracy theorists are a dime a dozen.
 
KZN is next, on the south coast we feel it every festive season and its getting worse every year

3 years ago we had sea (salt) water running through our taps (yep, almost everyone had damaged geysers)

2 years ago water pressure was up , down or absent at times

Last year November we had 14 days without a drop of water (this was strike/sabotage related though) if you could find water it was R40+ for 5L

People, stock up as much as you can, after 14 days you realise what you can and cant live without

Cape Town has my sympathy
 
it might take a few years but one day you are going to say...That Chap Resistance was right.
statistics didn't and history didn't account for the increase in population as s it did since south Africa became free as

You are on the ball, like it or not, the population growth is an issue

Ignore the race chart, this is just an illustration to give an idea of the mass growth
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