List of top Concentrate flavours

[RichJB]

Agree about the Strawberry thing. Skiddlz has just released yet another Strawb/Ripe/Dragon/Bav Cream/Cheesecake GC combo, and NotCharlesManson is working on another Strawberry Shortcake. And then Wayne will do the rerererereremix of Strawberry Ice Cream cone/shake/cereal milk. I'm sure they'll all be very tasty but how many more strawberry dairies can we take? They seem to be just going around in circles now. Give them another year and they'll have come full circle back to Mustard Milk.

I really like Shaner's stuff. Firstly, he uses only FA (or darn close to only) and secondly he actually has some new ideas. Prickly Pear, Fig and Ginger Yogurt is my idea of something new and fresh. I've just mixed up his Coconut and Watermelon Slushy, looking forward to it.

 

[Rude Rudi]

Those are absolutely bang on, @Andre. The only one of the Top 20 that surprises me a bit is TFA Pear. I haven't seen that used a lot, nor any Pear come to think of it. I would think that FA Marshmallow (or TFA or Cap) is a lot more useful for a first DIY order than any Pear.

Pear for me all the way!! After my dusty pear saga, I am on the hunt for any decent pear!


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[RichJB]

Haha, I am sure FA Pear will give you all the creamy sweet goodness you desire. I have Cly Pear somewhere, I'm a bit nervous about it. But it's not a flavour I have used yet. If the Cly doesn't work, I'll probably just get FA and be done with it.

I was hoping that FA Red Wine would be good. A red wine pear dessert would be something different. But apparently the FA Wines are not for vaping and are to be avoided.

 

[method1]

Agree about the Strawberry thing. Skiddlz has just released yet another Strawb/Ripe/Dragon/Bav Cream/Cheesecake GC combo, and NotCharlesManson is working on another Strawberry Shortcake. And then Wayne will do the rerererereremix of Strawberry Ice Cream cone/shake/cereal milk. I'm sure they'll all be very tasty but how many more strawberry dairies can we take? They seem to be just going around in circles now. Give them another year and they'll have come full circle back to Mustard Milk.

I really like Shaner's stuff. Firstly, he uses only FA (or darn close to only) and secondly he actually has some new ideas. Prickly Pear, Fig and Ginger Yogurt is my idea of something new and fresh. I've just mixed up his Coconut and Watermelon Slushy, looking forward to it.

Skiddlz also just released a fried oreo, manson has done a bunch of interesting profiles with other fruits, wayne did cuprian etc, so I don't get the going round in circles thing, but yeah theres a ton of strawberry recipes, and people are still chasing the profile because a.)strawberry is lekker and b.) it hasn't really been nailed down properly as a profile yet.

 

[RichJB]

Yeah, I liked the idea of NotCharlesManson's Guava Lime candies, that sounds excellent as guava isn't used widely. And I've mixed up Wayne's Casino Pier and 'Sicle which are also both good and different.

But if I open a recipe now and see any two of TFA Strawb, Ripe or Cap Sweet Strawb, paired with any of Cheesecake GC, Bav, VBIC or Vanilla Swirl, I just hit the Back button immediately. Been there, done that. If they pick a Strawb or two and then mix it with Ginger and Bourbon or something then fine, we have something new and I'm interested again.

 

[Andre]

Agree about the Strawberry thing. Skiddlz has just released yet another Strawb/Ripe/Dragon/Bav Cream/Cheesecake GC combo, and NotCharlesManson is working on another Strawberry Shortcake. And then Wayne will do the rerererereremix of Strawberry Ice Cream cone/shake/cereal milk. I'm sure they'll all be very tasty but how many more strawberry dairies can we take? They seem to be just going around in circles now. Give them another year and they'll have come full circle back to Mustard Milk.

I really like Shaner's stuff. Firstly, he uses only FA (or darn close to only) and secondly he actually has some new ideas. Prickly Pear, Fig and Ginger Yogurt is my idea of something new and fresh. I've just mixed up his Coconut and Watermelon Slushy, looking forward to it.

Have just mixed Shaner's Indian Chai Iced Coffee!

 

[RichJB]

Yeah, Shaner is the bomb. If you've bought concentrates for HIC's recipes, you can pretty much do everything that Shaner concocts as well. In that Chai Coffee recipe, the only three non-FA ingredients are:
Koolada
TFA Brown Sugar
NF Ginger

Those are probably the three non-FA flavours that HIC uses most as well. It's nice having two top mixers with a common and limited range of concentrates required. If they are indeed two different mixers. With all the speculation circulating these days of who and what HIC is, you never know.

 

[kyle_redbull]

Where can I find Skiddlz, shaner and notcharlesmason recipes

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[Greyz]

Where can I find Skiddlz, shaner and notcharlesmason recipes

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www.e-liquid-recipes.com

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[kyle_redbull]

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[kyle_redbull]

Any other top flavours that may be new that we can add?

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[RichJB]

I'm tempted to nominate sweaty cow milk and Fugi. But that will be a bit cryptic for those who missed the Mr Hardwicks' radio show last night. Instead, and with the imminent release of the Jungle Flavors line, I would say:

JF Strawberry Sweet
JF Yellow Cake

If I was a new DIYer, those are two I'd get from the start. The Strawberry Sweet pairs with TFA Ripe and replaces Cap Sweet Strawberry (but at lower percentages) for a "strawberry blend". The Yellow Cake is a good replacement for Flavor West's, just without the radioactive waste, bilharzia, mountain goat phlegm and other additives which made the FW namesake so lip-smackingly tasty.

 

[RichJB]

In the general spirit of the "I'm new to DIY, what should I buy first?" question, I thought I'd add E-juice Makers' list of "the first 25 flavours to buy". E-juice Makers is a collective including Jenn Jarvis, Ckemist/atommcree, Kopel/HocusKrocus, ConcreteRiver and several others. So this list is the result of a lot of mixing experience. Here is their suggestion:

• Vanilla Custard (Choose either v.1 or v.2) - Capella
• Sweet Cream - Flavor West
• Bavarian Cream - The Flavor Apprentice
• Vienna Cream - FlavourArt
• Vanilla Swirl - The Flavor Apprentice
• Cream Fresh - FlavourArt
• Meringue - FlavourArt
• Marshmallow - FlavourArt
• Apple Pie - FlavourArt
• Yellow Cake - Flavor West
• Cinnamon Roll - Flavor West
• Cream Cheese Icing - Lorann
• Tiramisu aka Coffee with Cream - FlavourArt
• Caramel - FlavourArt
• Sweet Strawberry - Jungle Flavors
• Blueberry - Flavor West
• Cherry - FlavourArt
• Fuji Apple - FlavourArt
• Raspberry - Inawera
• Key Lime - TFA
• Dragonfruit - The Flavor Apprentice
• Oba Oba - FlavourArt
• RY4 Double - The Flavour Apprentice
• Erythritol - Jungle Flavors
• Ethyl Maltol - The Flavor Apprentice

I agree with most of that list. The ones I'd replace would be:

FW Cinnamon Roll: I guess it's useful for bakery + cinnamon. I'd find either TFA Cheesecake GC or Cap NY Cheesecake to be more useful, though.

FA Tiramisu: I suppose this is in the list for its versatility as it can be a coffee or the base of a bakery. But it doesn't work in anything for me. I would look for some profile other than coffee and would replace it probably with Cap Sugar Cookie.

FA Cherry: I'd use Inawera Cherries (plural) if I wanted a cherry flavour. But I'd rather have Pear in my first 25, either FA or TFA or Inw.

TFA Key Lime: this is no-fly so I'd probably replace with Inw Lime or Lime Shisha, or maybe FA Aurora. I'm not sure I'd have a Lime in my first 25, though. I love bananas more so maybe TFA Banana Cream.

Erythritol: Hard to find, I'd replace with Cap Super Sweet.

Ethyl Maltol: other than sweetener, I wouldn't get any additives (Smooth, Sour, etc) to start with. I'd replace this with either FW Hazelnut or Flv Milk & Honey, both good versatile additions to round out many recipes.

 

[Lingogrey]

In the general spirit of the "I'm new to DIY, what should I buy first?" question, I thought I'd add E-juice Makers' list of "the first 25 flavours to buy". E-juice Makers is a collective including Jenn Jarvis, Ckemist/atommcree, Kopel/HocusKrocus, ConcreteRiver and several others. So this list is the result of a lot of mixing experience. Here is their suggestion:

• Vanilla Custard (Choose either v.1 or v.2) - Capella
• Sweet Cream - Flavor West
• Bavarian Cream - The Flavor Apprentice
• Vienna Cream - FlavourArt
• Vanilla Swirl - The Flavor Apprentice
• Cream Fresh - FlavourArt
• Meringue - FlavourArt
• Marshmallow - FlavourArt
• Apple Pie - FlavourArt
• Yellow Cake - Flavor West
• Cinnamon Roll - Flavor West
• Cream Cheese Icing - Lorann
• Tiramisu aka Coffee with Cream - FlavourArt
• Caramel - FlavourArt
• Sweet Strawberry - Jungle Flavors
• Blueberry - Flavor West
• Cherry - FlavourArt
• Fuji Apple - FlavourArt
• Raspberry - Inawera
• Key Lime - TFA
• Dragonfruit - The Flavor Apprentice
• Oba Oba - FlavourArt
• RY4 Double - The Flavour Apprentice
• Erythritol - Jungle Flavors
• Ethyl Maltol - The Flavor Apprentice

I agree with most of that list. The ones I'd replace would be:

FW Cinnamon Roll: I guess it's useful for bakery + cinnamon. I'd find either TFA Cheesecake GC or Cap NY Cheesecake to be more useful, though.

FA Tiramisu: I suppose this is in the list for its versatility as it can be a coffee or the base of a bakery. But it doesn't work in anything for me. I would look for some profile other than coffee and would replace it probably with Cap Sugar Cookie.

FA Cherry: I'd use Inawera Cherries (plural) if I wanted a cherry flavour. But I'd rather have Pear in my first 25, either FA or TFA or Inw.

TFA Key Lime: this is no-fly so I'd probably replace with Inw Lime or Lime Shisha, or maybe FA Aurora. I'm not sure I'd have a Lime in my first 25, though. I love bananas more so maybe TFA Banana Cream.

Erythritol: Hard to find, I'd replace with Cap Super Sweet.

Ethyl Maltol: other than sweetener, I wouldn't get any additives (Smooth, Sour, etc) to start with. I'd replace this with either FW Hazelnut or Flv Milk & Honey, both good versatile additions to round out many recipes.

I agree with most of the above AND with your substitutions (although I would definitely rather have INW Lime than a banana cream). I find it very surprising that the only INW concentrate listed is Raspberry (which is great, and a must have) and I cannot see any starter list complete without INW Cactus and INW Biscuit (or then JF Biscuit, which I haven't tried - but they seem interchangeable). It's also strange that the only 'tobacco' flavor (if you can call it that) listed is TFA RY4 Double. I would at least include one easy to work with (great even at 4 % solo) 'truer' tobacco flavor such as INW AM4A. I'm not quite sure what I would 'bump off' to include these concentrates in a list of 25 and it would really only be according to my personal preferences - but I would say the AM4A replacing the RY4 Double (FA Caramel and some Vanillas included on the list if you want to create a RY4), the Biscuit replacing the FW Sweet Cream (enough good other creams on the list), and the Cactus replacing the FW Blueberry or the FA Oba Oba

 

[Lingogrey]

Haha, I am sure FA Pear will give you all the creamy sweet goodness you desire. I have Cly Pear somewhere, I'm a bit nervous about it. But it's not a flavour I have used yet. If the Cly doesn't work, I'll probably just get FA and be done with it.

I was hoping that FA Red Wine would be good. A red wine pear dessert would be something different. But apparently the FA Wines are not for vaping and are to be avoided.

About a year ago I tried making a spiced pears poached in red wine without a red wine concentrate. I combined INW sparkling wine and INW Black Tea (the latter for the 'tannins') as my 'red wine' with some INW Pear, Cap VC V1, a tiny bit of INW Shisha Chai and some supporting ingredients in very small % s (cannot remember exactly what they were). I thought that it was a great idea at the time (and it might be; my execution might have just sucked), but it was revolting! (and steeping for months just made it much worse )

 

[RichJB]

I suppose the thinking behind the RY4 Double was that not many people are into tobacco vapes. So they included RY4 which may initially satisfy those few but still have some use as a dessert flavour for the non-tobacco crowd. It's used quite commonly in custards and the like so it's not a total bust for those who don't like tobaccos per se.

It's really tough to narrow down to 25. Their selection has no cheesecakes, no biscuits/cookies, no chocolates, no candies, no alcohols, no beverages, no melons, no exotics, no mints, and many fruits missing. Still I reckon it's a decent starting point. Seeing as Kopel was involved, I'm surprised that Jasmine, Violet, Hibiscus and Honeysuckle didn't make the list. I guess the rest ganged up and talked him out of those.

 

[Christos]

@RichJB I would add TFA bavarian cream and Cap sugar cookie v1.

 

[RichJB]

The TFA Bavarian is in the list. I agree fully on Cap SC. I think any new mixer who put Cap VC and SC as the first two items on their shopping list wouldn't go far wrong. At the very least, you'd have the ingredients for ID10-T's Simple Sugar Cookie.

Between them, Cap SC1 and VC1 are used in 9882 recipes on ATF. So it's not like you're ever going to be sitting around wondering what you can mix with them.

 

[playa4life]

This thread just made me more hungry and just a tad bit more anxious to get started on my DIY Journey!

 

[stephen.johnson2]

Hi All;

I am looking for a super strong peppermint; - I have made a chocolate and all the mint i throw in it gets overpowered. If i could also get a xxx menthol kick to it, it would be delicious

Thanks