Lockdown diaries - COVID-19 matters!

[Intuthu Kagesi]

I think hindsight is a wonderful thing. This virus is novel (adjective. of a new and unusual kind; different from anything seen or known before), and even now they don't understand it. So it is OK to say, we need not have done this or that, but the real fact is no one really knows, even now.

I agree wholeheartedly on 20-20 vision after the fact, and certainly we could do with more cleanliness in the world, which we had imposed on us, (I have long remarked on how many people don't wash their hands after visiting toilets, so on a level that was a godsend), however with what we now know, should we not be changing our strategy, (aka lockdowns)?

 

[Stranger]

Indeed we should, but what should be happening will be more difficult to achieve. People don't do as they are asked to do. The UK as an example were asked to wear masks, they shouted civil liberty and the cases got worse. People were asked, protect the elderly and that never happened. I practice social distancing and three times now I have had to ask people to give me my space.

A big part of the problem is us and the fact that common sense is not so common anymore. There is no app for that.

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

I guess you're right, the only reason we need defined rules, regulations, policies and process is because the greater majority seem to be inherently dishonest and doff ... with common sense far from common

 

[Stranger]

So Mr Alan Jones can now gloat and say "I told you so"

I would ask him, "How did you know" I will bet you I get a bullshit answer.

We need a vaccine that works and then we will have a new normal. Along with our flu vaccine, we will have our Covid one.

 

[Feliks Karp]

What are your thoughts on this?
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6203093698001

Well considering pandemic is typically considered to be when an epidemic disease is present in the majority of the world , I think he's an idiot.

Also again another guy who thinks you can take the deaths from the disease and divide it by the total populace to get the mortality of the disease, so again straw man maths.

The reason we haven't seen this reaction before is that we're pretty familiar with treatment of other diseases, the damage they inflict and the resulting recovery. I mean hell they firmly believe they may have helped kill the initial critical patients with the wrong treatments. We are barely in to year one of this disease, they've only recently started to formulate a treatment plan for severe cases, they are still milling through the information.

Since this disease causes damage in hearts and brains we are yet to even see the long term effects of being infected, so the other quote in that article is either cherry picked or ignorant.

Locking down wasn't the issue, prolonged lock downs with no strategy and looting of funds was the problem, China locked down hard as hell and they took quite a military approach to it, but they have recovered.

Sweden keeps getting cited as like this stellar example of no lockdown, they had one of the highest mortality rates per capita of the disease, still got hammered economically, their head epidemiologist even said it probably wasn't the best idea, and it's once again getting rising infections. There is no such thing as herd immunity, it's confirmed with genetic tracing that reinfection is a possibility and there has even been death from reinfection confirmed.

TLDR; Lockdowns weren't the issue, the way they were implemented and the free for all stealing was. People are obsessing over "should haves" instead of what the lessons learnt really are, globally our leaders are poor and there are many people in positions who are not qualified to be there.

 

[fbb1964]

See here's the thing about Alan Jones. Like him or hate him it doesn't really matter. He speaks up about stuff. A lot of stuff not just covid. That's what a journalist is suppose to do. Which says a lot more than the main stream media propoganda bs being peddled to the public. And that's what's needed for people to be able to form their own opinions perhaps. I don't personally agree with all he says too but the fact that he speaks up and sometimes against the burocratic govt and unelected health burocrats are a good thing. Funny how they enjoy their new found limitless power trip and their personal income not being affected one bit since covid started. They still get paid in full despite the strict lockdowns imposed on the rest of the public sector.
That's called journalism not the same same fear and alarmism parrot crap peddled by main stream media continually. The far left really hate Alan Jones because he says things they don't want to hear. Remember this is the far left narrative. Anything other than their own view and narrative, especially the government narrative, needs to be shut down immediately and are not allowed to be discussed. He gets people talking and questioning stuff and that is a good thing. Unless it's much easier to drink the popular koolade being dished out obviously.

As the old saying goes. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The sooner people realise that govt is not your friend the better.

This was he's reporting on vaping in AU.

Government is using ‘appalling justification’ to ban vaping
22/09/2020|7min


Sky News host Alan Jones says the idea vaping could become illegal without a prescription under the grounds it may be defined as a drug of abuse is an appalling justification on the government’s part. The Therapeutic Goods Administration on Wednesday will hand down a draft of guidelines in relation to vaping nicotine liquid, it is expected the federal Coalition will classify vaping as a drug of abuse. This would mean vaping nicotine liquid will be illegal without a prescription and those who are found in possession without a prescription would be prosecuted. “Whatever you might think of vaping, I find that kind of justification appalling,” Mr Jones said. “The loser in this is the vaper who will return to being a smoker. “The winner is the government, which makes far more money from smokers than tobacco companies.” Mr Jones spoke with Emeritus Professor Ross Fitzgerald about the issue. “The evidence strongly suggests that actually – up to now – the most successful way to stop people smoking cigarettes is vaping,” Professor Fitzgerald said. “Why should we move along the path of prohibition when there’s clear evidence that vaping is much less harmful than cigarettes and helps a lot of people stop smoking.”

Link below to the news video report re vaping..

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193363711001

 

[fbb1964]

 

[Adephi]

What are your thoughts on this?
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6203093698001

Mr Jones got a few things wrong.

This graph of England and all countries show a similar trend.

 

[Grand Guru]

 

[Hooked]

 

[ARYANTO]

I suggest we start stocking up again at Tops and vape shops ...
Second hard lockdown concerns in South Africa
Sihle Zikalala recently raised concerns about a second hard lockdown in South Africa unless there is a decline in the number of new COVID-19 cases.

“Looking at the statistics, we can now safely say that we are definitely going back into a hard lockdown if there is no urgent and drastic change in behaviour,” Zikalala said.

His comments followed a steady rise in new COVID-19 infections in recent weeks, which raised concerns about a second wave.
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/tren...ns-in-south-africa.html?utm_source=newsletter

 

[ARYANTO]

Joke of the day
''The SABC is planning to launch both video and audio streaming services, bringing it in direct competition with international services like Netflix and Spotify.''
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/broa...streaming-services.html?utm_source=newsletter

 

[alex1501]

Joke of the day
''The SABC is planning to launch both video and audio streaming services, bringing it in direct competition with international services like Netflix and Spotify.''
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/broa...streaming-services.html?utm_source=newsletter

They just need a cover (/reason) to start harassing everyone with some form of internet connection for the TV-licence fees.

 

[Feliks Karp]

SANDF hid R200m expenditure on ‘Covid’ drug it can’t use
https://mg.co.za/article/2020-10-22-b-sandf-hid-r200m-expenditure-on-covid-drug-it-cant-use/

 

[Feliks Karp]

I suggest we start stocking up again at Tops and vape shops ...
Second hard lockdown concerns in South Africa
Sihle Zikalala recently raised concerns about a second hard lockdown in South Africa unless there is a decline in the number of new COVID-19 cases.

“Looking at the statistics, we can now safely say that we are definitely going back into a hard lockdown if there is no urgent and drastic change in behaviour,” Zikalala said.

His comments followed a steady rise in new COVID-19 infections in recent weeks, which raised concerns about a second wave.
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/tren...ns-in-south-africa.html?utm_source=newsletter

I'd love to know what the health minister and his wife were doing to catch SARS-COV-02 since the rest of us are being so naughty and not following their shining examples.

 

[Grand Guru]

 

[Dela Rey Steyn]

Just a reminder:

 

[alex1501]

Just a reminder:

You are wrong, it goes like this:

 

[Adephi]

 

[Grand Guru]

 

[ARYANTO]

I officially resigned yesterday , I can't cope with this one /two day a week work - going to get my provident fund money and do my own thing .
I am tired of hearing how bad it is ''there outside'' I have been outside since March and just had enough .

 

[DarthBranMuffin]

I officially resigned yesterday , I can't cope with this one /two day a week work - going to get my provident fund money and do my own thing .
I am tired of hearing how bad it is ''there outside'' I have been outside since March and just had enough .

Bold move @ARYANTO !!! Good luck with whatever you take on next! Your mind is the only limit of your capabilities!

 

[Grand Guru]

I officially resigned yesterday , I can't cope with this one /two day a week work - going to get my provident fund money and do my own thing .
I am tired of hearing how bad it is ''there outside'' I have been outside since March and just had enough .

It takes courage to do that. Wishing you all of the best in your next endeavour!

 

[Stranger]

Now is the time to become Mr Miser, cut back on everything until such time as you get an income stream again. Good luck

 

[Adephi]

I officially resigned yesterday , I can't cope with this one /two day a week work - going to get my provident fund money and do my own thing .
I am tired of hearing how bad it is ''there outside'' I have been outside since March and just had enough .

All the best @ARYANTO. Keep a sober mind and think things well through and you will be back on your feet in no time. If I wasn't married with kids I would have done the same long ago.